FIR Rims?

"Bow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.

Thanks

Bow

I had a pair made up a couple of years back(32 spoke bright gold finish).
I experienced cracking around all the rear drive side spokes so took the
wheel back and had the rim replaced for free.
A couple of weeks later I hit a pothole and destroyed the new rim.
I don't use the rear wheel now and the front wheel, which is fine, is in the
garage. (would you like to buy it?😉)

Personally I don't think the rim is any better or worse than Australian made
velocity deep V rims, which you should be able to find cheaper.

Peter

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:07:12 +1000, "Bow" <[email hidden]>

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Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.

MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.
--
Rick Onanian

No info on that specific model, but I've build and ridden many wheels based on
FIR EA-60 and EA-65 rims, which are similar to Mavic's Open Pro. One of 'em is
a 24-spoke front wheel laced on a 36-hole rim (I weigh 175 lb).

I consider these rims rugged and reliable. One of my EA-60 wheelsets has 23k
miles and is still going strong except for [normal] wear on the braking
surfaces.

OTOH, I bought a used bike with FIR Nettuno cheap aero rims (1997 or
thereabouts). They had small cracks around the nipple sockets (no eyelets). I
thought they were [censored].

Mike Yankee

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"Bow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.

Thanks

Bow

I had a pair made up a couple of years back(32 spoke bright gold finish).
I experienced cracking around all the rear drive side spokes so took the
wheel back and had the rim replaced for free.
A couple of weeks later I hit a pothole and destroyed the new rim.
I don't use the rear wheel now and the front wheel, which is fine, is in

the

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garage. (would you like to buy it?😉)

Personally I don't think the rim is any better or worse than Australian

made

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velocity deep V rims, which you should be able to find cheaper.

And drilled any way you can think of.

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Peter

"Bow" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.

Thanks

Bow

I've used FIR on road and off over the years and have always had good
luck with them.
Karl

Bow said:

Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims?

They used to have those before they started using metal... the younger
generation here will remember "Oregon Trail" and all the broken yokes,
tongues, axles, and wheels... wood (and thus, FIR) just wasn't reliable!
Can't imagine why you'd put one on a bike in this day and age...

--
Phil, Squid-in-Training (where's Sorni when you need him?)

ZeeExSixAre said:

They used to have those before they started using metal... the younger
generation here will remember "Oregon Trail" and all the broken yokes,
tongues, axles, and wheels... wood (and thus, FIR) just wasn't reliable!

Played it on an Apple IIe. Later bought it for Apple IIgs and PC,
and still have the DOS version around somewhere (probably on 5.25"
disks).

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Can't imagine why you'd put one on a bike in this day and age...

Me neither. Kiln-dried spruce is stronger.

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Phil, Squid-in-Training (where's Sorni when you need him?)

Boycotting this thread?
--
Rick "Sore-knee from changing fir wheel" Onanian

Rick Onanian said:

ZeeExSixAre said:

They used to have those before they started using metal... the
younger generation here will remember "Oregon Trail" and all the
broken yokes, tongues, axles, and wheels... wood (and thus, FIR)
just wasn't reliable!

Played it on an Apple IIe. Later bought it for Apple IIgs and PC,
and still have the DOS version around somewhere (probably on 5.25"
disks).

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Can't imagine why you'd put one on a bike in this day and age...

Me neither. Kiln-dried spruce is stronger.

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Phil, Squid-in-Training (where's Sorni when you need him?)

Boycotting this thread?

My mouse finger was itchy, and now I know why! (Didn't notice my name first
time, as newsreader sorta "dims" sigs and the Squid's remark was thus
treated...uh, thusly.)

Bill "FIR rims: soft ride, but the protesters throwing buckets of blood on
you gets rather old" S.

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In rec.bicycles.tech S o r n i said:

Bill "FIR rims: soft ride, but the protesters throwing buckets of
blood on you gets rather old" S.

That bike needs one of these:
http://www.velimpex.com/san_marco_product.php?contents=sm_emotion

That's just bizarre.

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Q: What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

In rec.bicycles.tech S o r n i <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Bill "FIR rims: soft ride, but the protesters throwing buckets of blood on
: you gets rather old" S.

That bike needs one of these:
http://www.velimpex.com/san_marco_product.php?contents=sm_emotion

- mark

Mark Vieselmeyer said:

In rec.bicycles.tech S o r n i said:

Bill "FIR rims: soft ride, but the protesters throwing buckets of
blood on you gets rather old" S.

That bike needs one of these:
http://www.velimpex.com/san_marco_product.php?contents=sm_emotion

I /knew/ it was gonna be that pic! (Made the rounds in AM-B a few times.)

Bill "sideshowbobshudder.wav" S.

"Mark Vieselmeyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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That bike needs one of these:
http://www.velimpex.com/san_marco_product.php?contents=sm_emotion

Is that a merkin?

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"Mark Vieselmeyer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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That bike needs one of these:
http://www.velimpex.com/san_marco_product.php?contents=sm_emotion

Is that a merkin?

I love it! That's funny!!!

Rick Onanian said:

On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 16:07:12 +1000, "Bow" <[email hidden]>

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Has anyone had any experience with FIR rims? The model I am looking at
buying is the SRG 30 aero profile 28 spoke.

MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.

How wood you know?

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

Tom Sherman said:

Rick Onanian wrote:

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MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.

How wood you know?

That should finish this.

Bill "going against the grain" S.

Tom Sherman said:

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MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.

How wood you know?

I'm in the construction business, so I mite (is that the best I can
come up with?) know this sort of stuff.

Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
but it sure is brittle. IME, hem fir has proven itself to be much
tougher, and I've yet to load KD spruce in any direction where it's
stronger than hem fir.

I hope you aren't board (hah! better...) of my lumbering (woo hoo!)
prose.
--
Rick Onanian

Rick Onanian said:

Tom Sherman said:

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MAPLE or SPRUCE may be stronger.

How wood you know?

I'm in the construction business, so I mite (is that the best I can
come up with?) know this sort of stuff.

Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
but it sure is brittle....

Loaded longitudinally, tangentially, or radial to the grain?

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Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

Tom Sherman said:

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Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
but it sure is brittle....

Loaded longitudinally, tangentially, or radial to the grain?

In my experience, all of the above, in compression, stretch, span,
beam, whatever types of loads. I've just not had a real-world
experience where KD spruce has survived more load than hem fir.

All combinations of the above loads do happen, between cutting,
nailing, screwing, loading, removing, breaking, and all the other
things you do with wood. I've used both species as parts of walls,
staging, makeshift tools, pavement protection under heavy/sharp
stuff, tables, and as ultra-rough-service boxes.
--
Rick Onanian

What have I started? I'm sorry I asked ;-)

B

"Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tom Sherman said:

Quoted message said:

Er, seriously, engineers insist that kiln dried spruce is stronger,
but it sure is brittle....

Loaded longitudinally, tangentially, or radial to the grain?

In my experience, all of the above, in compression, stretch, span,
beam, whatever types of loads. I've just not had a real-world
experience where KD spruce has survived more load than hem fir.

All combinations of the above loads do happen, between cutting,
nailing, screwing, loading, removing, breaking, and all the other
things you do with wood. I've used both species as parts of walls,
staging, makeshift tools, pavement protection under heavy/sharp
stuff, tables, and as ultra-rough-service boxes.
--
Rick Onanian