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  1. This is from MrBookmaker.com
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Tour 2004 - Petacchi

    Tour de France 2004 : How many stages will Alessandro
    Petacchi win ? (Petacchi must start in the Tour de
    France 2004 otherwise the bet will be refunded - The
    prologue as well as the team time trial do not count
    for this bet)

    None 16.00
    Exactly 1 or 2 stage(s) 3.50
    Exactly 3 or 4 stages 2.50
    Exactly 5 or 6 stages 2.75
    7 stages or more 4.75
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So it appears that the betting line is that Petacchi
    will slap the other sprinters around at will. What
    surprises me is that there appears to be no risk
    factor. Sprinters get busted up all the time i.e.
    Cipo in this year's Giro. Sprinting is a pretty
    hazardous occupation, and there appears to be no
    recognition of that.

    There also seems to be no recognition of how difficult
    it is for one team to control enough stages for one
    guy to win that often. I think the Tour is way different
    from the Giro in that respect.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  2. "Bob Schwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    This is from MrBookmaker.com
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Tour 2004 - Petacchi

    Tour de France 2004 : How many stages will Alessandro
    Petacchi win ? (Petacchi must start in the Tour de
    France 2004 otherwise the bet will be refunded - The
    prologue as well as the team time trial do not count
    for this bet)

    None 16.00
    Exactly 1 or 2 stage(s) 3.50
    Exactly 3 or 4 stages 2.50
    Exactly 5 or 6 stages 2.75
    7 stages or more 4.75
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So it appears that the betting line is that Petacchi
    will slap the other sprinters around at will. What
    surprises me is that there appears to be no risk
    factor. Sprinters get busted up all the time i.e.
    Cipo in this year's Giro. Sprinting is a pretty
    hazardous occupation, and there appears to be no
    recognition of that.

    There also seems to be no recognition of how difficult
    it is for one team to control enough stages for one
    guy to win that often. I think the Tour is way different
    from the Giro in that respect.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

    Boonen could throw a curve at them. It will be fun.

  3. Can I bet on whether Cipo will show up?

  4. Bob Schwartz said:

    There also seems to be no recognition of how difficult
    it is for one team to control enough stages for one
    guy to win that often. I think the Tour is way different
    from the Giro in that respect.

    'member Cipo winning 4 in a row in '99?

  5. In article <[email hidden]>, Bob Schwartz

    Quoted message said:

    This is from MrBookmaker.com
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Tour 2004 - Petacchi

    Tour de France 2004 : How many stages will Alessandro
    Petacchi win ? (Petacchi must start in the Tour de
    France 2004 otherwise the bet will be refunded - The
    prologue as well as the team time trial do not count
    for this bet)

    None 16.00
    Exactly 1 or 2 stage(s) 3.50
    Exactly 3 or 4 stages 2.50
    Exactly 5 or 6 stages 2.75
    7 stages or more 4.75
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So it appears that the betting line is that Petacchi
    will slap the other sprinters around at will. What
    surprises me is that there appears to be no risk
    factor. Sprinters get busted up all the time i.e.
    Cipo in this year's Giro. Sprinting is a pretty
    hazardous occupation, and there appears to be no
    recognition of that.

    True, but the dangerous area starts about 6 inches BEHIND Petacchi's
    wheel.

    -WG

  6. warren said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Bob Schwartz
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This is from MrBookmaker.com
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Tour 2004 - Petacchi

    Tour de France 2004 : How many stages will Alessandro
    Petacchi win ? (Petacchi must start in the Tour de
    France 2004 otherwise the bet will be refunded - The
    prologue as well as the team time trial do not count
    for this bet)

    None 16.00
    Exactly 1 or 2 stage(s) 3.50
    Exactly 3 or 4 stages 2.50
    Exactly 5 or 6 stages 2.75
    7 stages or more 4.75
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So it appears that the betting line is that Petacchi
    will slap the other sprinters around at will. What
    surprises me is that there appears to be no risk
    factor. Sprinters get busted up all the time i.e.
    Cipo in this year's Giro. Sprinting is a pretty
    hazardous occupation, and there appears to be no
    recognition of that.

    Quoted message said:

    True, but the dangerous area starts about 6 inches BEHIND Petacchi's
    wheel.

    I can think of one other Grand Tour besides this year's Giro
    where Cipo crashed and didn't win a stage. The other was the
    1994 Vuelta. The odds of that happening to any given sprinter
    are not insignificant. Consider, in both cases he got tangled
    with a member of his own team. It's a high risk occupation,
    and [censored] happens.

    Yet according to the betting line we are much more likely
    to see 7 or more wins for Jet-Ale. I think I'd put my money
    on 'None' at 16 to 1.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

  7. gym gravity said:

    Bob Schwartz wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There also seems to be no recognition of how difficult
    it is for one team to control enough stages for one
    guy to win that often. I think the Tour is way different
    from the Giro in that respect.

    Quoted message said:

    'member Cipo winning 4 in a row in '99?

    In 1997 Cipo lost the yellow jersey to Vasseur on a
    long breakaway. He had been leading for several days
    and Saeco was too fried on riding tempo so they sat
    up and let him take it.

    The Tour does a lot less of that "piano, piano" [censored]
    than the Giro, and Fassa Bortolo is not going to get
    any help from any other team in holding things
    together.

    The other side is that Petacchi is much more likely
    to still be in the race beyond the first week, so
    he might pick up a transitional stage. But the
    opportunists are targeting those so it will be very
    hard.

    I think he'll get his share of wins, but I have a
    hard time seeing him win stages in bulk like he did
    in the Giro.

    Bob Schwartz
    [email hidden]

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