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    B. Lafferty
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    From CyclingNews today quoting Armstrong's french lawyer:
    "I'm very upset and I don't share the opinion of the court," he told AFP,
    adding that he and Armstrong were not seeking the suppression of the book,
    rather a chance to provide the statement to readers asserting Armstrong's
    denial of the most serious charges.

    From Armstrong's London solicitors:

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his lawyers to immediately
    institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday Times and David Walsh
    seeking an injunction and substantial damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester, the publishers of 'LA
    Confidential' and the publishers of L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow.
    Issued by Schillings, Royalty House

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed but in the UK he
    does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong to raise the
    shophistication level of English speaking Lance Tifosi.

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  2. Jon Fiedler
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    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed but in the UK he
    does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong to raise the
    shophistication level of English speaking Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in the legal
    systems make suppressing publication in France much more difficult.

    As an aside, to all the people comparing these proceedings to what they
    know of US law, you shouldn't. France is under the Napoleonic code,
    which is significantly different. The British courts are similar to the
    US, but there are still important differences (I'm not positive truth is
    an absolute defense in libel in England (I know it's not in Australia,
    and I would expect those two countries to be aligned)).

    jon

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  3. Davey Crockett
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    Jon Fiedler said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed but in the UK he
    does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong to raise the
    shophistication level of English speaking Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in the legal
    systems make suppressing publication in France much more difficult.

    As an aside, to all the people comparing these proceedings to what
    they know of US law, you shouldn't. France is under the Napoleonic
    code, which is significantly different. The British courts are
    similar to the US, but there are still important differences (I'm not
    positive truth is an absolute defense in libel in England (I know it's
    not in Australia, and I would expect those two countries to be
    aligned)).

    jon

    http://www.hfac.uh.edu/comm/media_libel/libel/other.html

    --
    le Vent a Dos
    Davey Crockett
    No e-patents, pas de brevets logiciels
    Pétition contre les brevets logiciels : http://petition.eurolinux.org
    Six-Day site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html
    Please address all replies to the list

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  4. Jonathan v.d. Sluis
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    "Jon Fiedler" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed but in the UK he
    does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong to raise the
    shophistication level of English speaking Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in the legal
    systems make suppressing publication in France much more difficult.

    Why doesn't he say he wants to suppress the book in France, but doesn't have
    the ability to do so? At least he would give the impression of being honest.

    Jonathan.

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  5. L G
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    Why doesn't LA take a lie detector test?

    "Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Fiedler" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed but in the UK


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong to raise the
    shophistication level of English speaking Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in the legal
    systems make suppressing publication in France much more difficult.

    Why doesn't he say he wants to suppress the book in France, but doesn't


    have

    Quoted message said:

    the ability to do so? At least he would give the impression of being


    honest.

    Quoted message said:


    Jonathan.

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  6. Tom Kunich
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    Davey Crockett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Fiedler said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed but in the UK he
    does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong to raise the
    shophistication level of English speaking Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in the legal
    systems make suppressing publication in France much more difficult.

    As an aside, to all the people comparing these proceedings to what
    they know of US law, you shouldn't. France is under the Napoleonic
    code, which is significantly different. The British courts are
    similar to the US, but there are still important differences (I'm not
    positive truth is an absolute defense in libel in England (I know it's
    not in Australia, and I would expect those two countries to be
    aligned)).

    jon

    http://www.hfac.uh.edu/comm/media_libel/libel/other.html

    As Davey points out "Truth is a complete defense" in Australian and English law.

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  7. K. J. Papai
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    "L G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    Why doesn't LA take a lie detector test?

    Exactly -- every pro needs to pass a Lie "Detetector" test and
    then 30 drug tests a year to prove their innocence.

    You're brilliant? Where does your genius come from from Rolfie?

    Quoted message said:

    "Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Fiedler" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    B. Lafferty wrote:

    > So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed but in the UK


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong to raise the
    > shophistication level of English speaking Lance Tifosi.
    >
    >

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in the legal
    systems make suppressing publication in France much more difficult.

    Why doesn't he say he wants to suppress the book in France, but doesn't


    have

    Quoted message said:

    the ability to do so? At least he would give the impression of being


    honest.

    Quoted message said:


    Jonathan.

    Report
  8. B. Lafferty
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    "K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "L G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why doesn't LA take a lie detector test?

    Exactly -- every pro needs to pass a Lie "Detetector" test and
    then 30 drug tests a year to prove their innocence.

    You're brilliant? Where does your genius come from from Rolfie?

    I suggest we make them all spend the month of December with Gen. Miller at
    Gitmo undergoing interrogation by one of the 24 superlative methods approved
    by Sec. Rummy that do not (allegedly) violate the Geneva Conventions. If
    they can't get a confession, then the rider is cleared through the following
    December. No tests will be needed throughout the year as they will again be
    tortured/questioned in December.

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