Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
Because of the book "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong"
he will be extremely [censored] and take home the yellow.
Steve
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Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
Because of the book "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong"
he will be extremely [censored] and take home the yellow.
Steve
Steven Gee said:Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
Or desperate.
Quoted message said:Because of the book "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong"
he will be extremely [censored] and take home the yellow.Steve
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Quoted message said:Steven Gee said:Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
Or desperate.
Desperate? With 5 tours behind him?
Simon
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news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:Steven Gee said:Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
Or desperate.
Desperate? With 5 tours behind him?
Of course. He described the thought of someone else wearing yellow in Paris
as a nightmare.
Also, he was desparate last year, and he had already won 4.
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news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:Steven Gee said:Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
Or desperate.
Desperate? With 5 tours behind him?
Desperate not to lose.
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news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:Steven Gee said:Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
Or desperate.
Desperate? With 5 tours behind him?
Simon
What's behind him is inconsequential during the race. Everything is
different once the prologue starts. Leave all the philosophy on the bus.
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>Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
Or desperate.
Desperate? With 5 tours behind him?
Desperate not to lose.
That is precisely how he puts it. One thing that Lance has brought to the
sport is a non-traditional (for Europeans anyway) view of what it means to
be second. It seems to have spread throughout cycling that now 2nd place is
equal to first loser. He even states that his biggest motivation is his fear
of losing (as opposed to a great desire to win). IOW, if he goes down
without a win, he will me remorseful that he started in the first place (but
won't admit it afterwards).
(Steven Gee) said:Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry. Because
of the book "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong"
he will be extremely [censored] and take home the yellow.Steve
Can't argue with logic like that.
Item:
1999: told he was damaged goods because of cancer
2000: told that 1999 was a fluke
2001: French drug accusations
2002: Continuing drug accusations
2003: Nothing of note.
2004: Book of Conjecture and hearsay
Steve
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Quoted message said:(Steven Gee) said:Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry. Because
of the book "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong"
he will be extremely [censored] and take home the yellow.Steve
Can't argue with logic like that.
Item:
1999: told he was damaged goods because of cancer
2000: told that 1999 was a fluke
2001: French drug accusations
2002: Continuing drug accusations
2003: Nothing of note.
2004: Book of Conjecture and hearsay
Steve
Bill Lloyd <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
Quoted message said:(Steven Gee) said:Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry. Because
of the book "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong"
he will be extremely [censored] and take home the yellow.Steve
Can't argue with logic like that.
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>>Lance rides better when he has something to prove, or is angry.
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>Or desperate.
>Desperate? With 5 tours behind him?
Desperate not to lose.
That is precisely how he puts it. One thing that Lance has brought to the
sport is a non-traditional (for Europeans anyway) view of what it means to
be second. It seems to have spread throughout cycling that now 2nd place is
equal to first loser. He even states that his biggest motivation is his fear
of losing (as opposed to a great desire to win). IOW, if he goes down
without a win, he will me remorseful that he started in the first place (but
won't admit it afterwards).
That mindset is a strange one to me. I understand it (and know that's
how LA puts it), but it still seems pretty negative. "I don't want to lose"
versus "I want to win". Oh well, everyone has their own bag of tricks they
use for motivation. But I'd be willing to bet that Bjarne Riis motivates
his guys with a "You can win this race" message, rather than, "You don't
wanna lose this, do ya?"
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tanx,
Howard
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Quoted message said:From: Howard Kveck [email hidden]
Quoted message said:That mindset is a strange one to me. I understand it (and know that's
how LA puts it), but it still seems pretty negative. "I don't want to lose"
versus "I want to win". Oh well, everyone has their own bag of tricks they
use for motivation. But I'd be willing to bet that Bjarne Riis motivates
his guys with a "You can win this race" message, rather than, "You don't
wanna lose this, do ya?"--
tanx,
Howard
Hi Howard
I'd have to do a lot of digging but I remember seeing a study on the
psychological factors and motivations in elite athletes. IIRC this obsessive
fear of failure was almost universal in the best in all the sports they
surveyed.
Wish I could remember where I saw it. maybe someone will bail me out here.
Bill C
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