Drop down bar ends

Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for mountain
bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw them
in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

Maybe I'm missing something, but can't you just install 'em pointing down?

Bill "brilliant new invention: inverted bar ends" S.

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Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw
them in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

Maybe I'm missing something, but can't you just install 'em pointing
down?

Bill "brilliant new invention: inverted bar ends" S.

Hi Bill,

The thing about them was that they were fully curved, so that when you
installed them on the ends of a mountain bike handle bar, it made the
straight MTB handlebarrs, look / work like road bars.

Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for mountain
bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw them
in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

Man, I remember those. It's been years since I've seen a pair. I've been
haunting ebay looking for bars and barends the past couple of weeks, and I
haven't seen a pair of those there. Yet. That's probably the only place
you'd ever find a set of those.

Why don't you just put a regular set of drop bars on? IIRC, didn't Johnny
T. win the world championship with drop bars long ago?

Regards,
H.

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Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for mountain
bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw them
in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

Man, I remember those. It's been years since I've seen a pair. I've been
haunting ebay looking for bars and barends the past couple of weeks, and I
haven't seen a pair of those there. Yet. That's probably the only place
you'd ever find a set of those.

Why don't you just put a regular set of drop bars on? IIRC, didn't Johnny
T. win the world championship with drop bars long ago?

I think so; I have certainly seen the pictures of him doing a mountain
bike race on an MTB with a set of drop bars. In the picture I saw, he
was on a steep descent, in mid-air (in that era, jumps were a perfectly
reasonable obstacle on an XC course), with drop bars.

I believe the explanation is that at the time, he was crossing over to
road racing, and tried to keep his position on both bikes as similar as
possible. In retrospect, he wasn't all that thrilled with the
experiment, according to the story I read.

-RjC.

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Big Lou from Brooklyn said:

Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw
them in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

Man, I remember those. It's been years since I've seen a pair.

I've

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been haunting ebay looking for bars and barends the past couple of
weeks, and I haven't seen a pair of those there. Yet. That's

probably

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the only place you'd ever find a set of those.

Why don't you just put a regular set of drop bars on? IIRC, didn't
Johnny T. win the world championship with drop bars long ago?

Regards,
H.

The reason I'm looking for them is that I want to quickly 'convert' a
mountain bike I have into a cyclo-cross bike without having to do much
work. Swap the wide rims for thin, add the drop down bar ends, and
voila.

:: Sigh :: Gotta keep looking on the Bay ...

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for mountain
bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw them
in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

"Newk" bar ends

http://www.pbwbikes.com/partsaccessories.html

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw

them

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in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

"Newk" bar ends

http://www.pbwbikes.com/partsaccessories.html

Peter, you are a god. Thanks!! Those are the puppies I was looking
for.

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for mountain
bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw them
in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

If you want to, you can put a drop down road bar on the mtb. No reason not
to do it. No bar gives you as many possible hand positions to choose from as
a road bar.

Bert L.

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw
them in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

If you want to, you can put a drop down road bar on the mtb. No

reason

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not to do it. No bar gives you as many possible hand positions to
choose from as a road bar.

Bert L.

Hi Bert,

The Problem doing that has always been trying to get the MTB shifters
and brake levers to fit / mount on the road bar.

L

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for mountain
bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw them
in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

"Newk" bar ends

http://www.pbwbikes.com/partsaccessories.html

That's fantastic. Thanks for the link. I'm surprised anyone still makes
those.

Did you take a look at the bikes on that website? They got some interesting
looking 'bents (81 speeds!), and their folding bikes look pretty cool, too.
(Sorry, for some unexplainable reason I'm a folding-bike geek.)

Regards,
H.

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for mountain
bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw them
in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

Thanks in advance

This is exactly what you are looking for:

http://www.sjscycles.com/store/vIndex.htm?item432.htm

Andrew Webster

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Does anyone know of a manufacturer that creates bar ends for

mountain

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bikes that are like the drop down bars of a road bike? I once saw

them

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in a bike mag a looong time ago, but the mag is long gone.

"Newk" bar ends

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Peter, you are a god. Thanks!! Those are the puppies I was looking for.

Now, the question is, how would road bike brake levers work on those?
Would you still be able to ride on top of the hoods? It seems to me that
the standard bard ends would get in the way.

I've been exploring ways to do a similar thing- improve the off-road
handling of my touring/'cross bike while preserving its road feel.

Nitto Dirt Drop bars- basically uber-wide drop bars with flared drops-
might do the trick as well.

-Jeremy

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Now, the question is, how would road bike brake levers
work on those? Would you still be able to ride on top of
the hoods? It seems to me that the standard bard ends
would get in the way.

They're not intended to be used with road bike levers. The idea is that you
keep all the flat bar controls, and the Newk bar ends just give you a
couple of extra hand positions. Newk also used to make simple hooks without
the upper extension. It might be possible to fit road levers to those, but
I suspect the tubing used is of smaller diameter than typical road bars.

James Thomson

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"Newk" bar ends
http://www.pbwbikes.com/partsaccessories.html

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Wow! I was just considering this idea for my folding bike. Thanks Peter,
thanks Andrew for the Newk lead, which I had not found.

In my estimation, one problem with bar ends for the "drop" hand position is
that my conventional bars are a bit wider than my roadbike bars. Reaching
for a lower hand position with bar ends would put my hands significantly
wider than that of my road bike position.

As an alternative, here is what I've been thinking:
http://www.canecreek.com/site/product/contact/01_speed.html

The Cane Creek Speed Bars have the advantage of an open clamp. As long as I
leave space between the stem and each brake lever, I can quickly fasten
these, and have a more aero drop hand position. The closed clamp of the
Newk product would require the grips and levers to be removed and remounted
to accomplish this.

At that, the Cane Creek Speed Bars are angled _away_ from one another, so
the drop hand position would not be quite as narrow as the clamp position on
the bars.

One problem is that they are designed for road bars. Would a "beer-can
shim" safely make up the difference in clamp diameter for flat bars?

I've not tried this yet- I haven't even seen the Speed Bars in person, but I
was thinking of ordering them from the LBS this week. Anybody with the Cane
Creeks want to comment on them?

Thanks,
Nicholas Grieco

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Peter Cole ([email hidden]) suggests:

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"Newk" bar ends
http://www.pbwbikes.com/partsaccessories.html

and Andrew Webster ([email hidden]) agreed:

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http://www.sjscycles.com/store/vIndex.htm?item432.htm

Wow! I was just considering this idea for my folding bike. Thanks
Peter, thanks Andrew for the Newk lead, which I had not found.

In my estimation, one problem with bar ends for the "drop" hand
position is that my conventional bars are a bit wider than my

roadbike

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bars. Reaching for a lower hand position with bar ends would put my
hands significantly wider than that of my road bike position.

As an alternative, here is what I've been thinking:
http://www.canecreek.com/site/product/contact/01_speed.html

The Cane Creek Speed Bars have the advantage of an open clamp. As
long as I leave space between the stem and each brake lever, I can
quickly fasten these, and have a more aero drop hand position. The
closed clamp of the Newk product would require the grips and levers

to

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be removed and remounted to accomplish this.

At that, the Cane Creek Speed Bars are angled _away_ from one

another,

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so the drop hand position would not be quite as narrow as the clamp
position on the bars.

One problem is that they are designed for road bars. Would a
"beer-can shim" safely make up the difference in clamp diameter for
flat bars?

I've not tried this yet- I haven't even seen the Speed Bars in

person,

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but I was thinking of ordering them from the LBS this week. Anybody
with the Cane Creeks want to comment on them?

Thanks,
Nicholas Grieco

Nicholas, unfortunately it looks like Newk has gone out of business so
finding their drop down bar ends still in stock may be a problem. I
called the PWB bike store and they are out of stock (they havent
updates the site yet).

The Cane Creek bar ends may be all there is ....