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  1. I've been riding Continental Grand Prix tires for years on my road
    bikes. Last time I needed a tire I cheaped out and got a Continental
    Sport 1000, on sale for $12. I couldn't resist since the Grand Prix
    is about $45. I've ridden the Sport 1000 on the rear for 2,000 miles
    and honestly can't feel a difference from the Grand Prix (which I
    still have on the front).

    As I mentioned in another post, it failed today with a sidewall slash
    after I rode through some finely ground glass. I was surprised such
    small pieces of glass could have produced such a large cut. It's
    close to half an inch long (after reinflating the tube), perpendicular
    to the tire tangent (meaning radiating out along the line of a spoke).
    It starts in the middle of the sidwall and extends up into the tread.

    I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've never had a
    sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and I've gone through 3 or 4 of
    them, getting about 3,000 miles on each on the rear.

    Is the cheaper Conti tire more susceptible to sidewall cuts?

    Thanks,
    Michael

  2. Michael Press said:

    I've been riding Continental Grand Prix tires for years on my road
    bikes. Last time I needed a tire I cheaped out and got a Continental
    Sport 1000, on sale for $12. I couldn't resist since the Grand Prix
    is about $45. I've ridden the Sport 1000 on the rear for 2,000 miles
    and honestly can't feel a difference from the Grand Prix (which I
    still have on the front).

    As I mentioned in another post, it failed today with a sidewall slash
    after I rode through some finely ground glass. I was surprised such
    small pieces of glass could have produced such a large cut. It's
    close to half an inch long (after reinflating the tube), perpendicular
    to the tire tangent (meaning radiating out along the line of a spoke).
    It starts in the middle of the sidwall and extends up into the tread.

    I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've never had a
    sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and I've gone through 3 or 4 of
    them, getting about 3,000 miles on each on the rear.

    Is the cheaper Conti tire more susceptible to sidewall cuts?

    Thanks,
    Michael


    if I'm not mistaken the more expensive tire has an
    additional ply and more rated strength than the Sport. I
    ride on tires that have Aramid fibers in them: Vittoria
    Randonneur. I've not had any problems with them so far. The
    only gripe I have about them is the cost: $30 each.

    dave

  3. Bay Area Dave said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is the cheaper Conti tire more susceptible to sidewall cuts?

    Thanks,
    Michael

    if I'm not mistaken the more expensive tire has an
    additional ply and more rated strength than the Sport.

    You're right - I just checked the conti website and the Ultra tires
    are 3-ply while the various Grand Prix tires are 5-ply.

    Michael

  4. michael-<< I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've never had a
    sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and I've gone through 3 or 4 of
    them, getting about 3,000 miles on each on the rear. >><BR><BR>

    The sidewall of the cheaper tire is probably thicker than the GP. Use a cheap
    tire. All will work just about the same. Durability, long life is the thing you
    should be after. Particularly for just use guys that ride around.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  5. <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    You're right - I just checked the conti website and the Ultra tires
    are 3-ply while the various Grand Prix tires are 5-ply.

    Michael

    IIRC, that's only under the tread. The extra two plies are for puncture
    resistance.

    The rest of the tire should be the same.

    M

  6. "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    michael-<< I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've never had a
    sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and I've gone through 3 or 4 of
    them, getting about 3,000 miles on each on the rear. >><BR><BR>

    The sidewall of the cheaper tire is probably thicker than the GP. Use a cheap
    tire. All will work just about the same. Durability, long life is the thing


    you

    Quoted message said:

    should be after. Particularly for just use guys that ride around.

    I never have understood why people JRA ride the lightweight racing tires...
    Seems like a complete waste of money to me.

    Mike
    Riding Michelin Prestige tires and lovin it!

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  7. SDMike said:


    "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    michael-<< I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've never had a
    sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and I've gone through 3 or 4 of
    them, getting about 3,000 miles on each on the rear. >><BR><BR>

    The sidewall of the cheaper tire is probably thicker than the GP. Use a cheap
    tire. All will work just about the same. Durability, long life is the thing


    you

    Quoted message said:

    should be after. Particularly for just use guys that ride around.

    I never have understood why people JRA ride the lightweight racing tires...
    Seems like a complete waste of money to me.

    I can only go on my personal experience. I've gone 10,000 miles on
    Specialized Armadillos and 10,000 miles on Conti Grand Prixes with no
    problems ever, but got a slashed sidewall on my first cheapo Sport
    1000.

    Maybe just coincidence, but I don't mind spending the extra $25 per
    year on superstition.

    Michael

  8. Quoted message said:

    I can only go on my personal experience. I've gone 10,000 miles on
    Specialized Armadillos and 10,000 miles on Conti Grand Prixes with no
    problems ever, but got a slashed sidewall on my first cheapo Sport
    1000.

    Maybe just coincidence, but I don't mind spending the extra $25 per
    year on superstition.

    Michael

    Your $25 are not going towards superstition. I've owned three pairs
    of Sport 1000's and half of them have developed tears from general
    use. None of them have more than 2000 miles. But, for the price, I'm
    very happy with their performance.

  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'm wondering if the cheaper tire is responsible. I've never had a
    sidewall problem on the Grand Prixes, and I've gone through 3 or 4 of
    them, getting about 3,000 miles on each on the rear. >><BR><BR>

    Quoted message said:

    I can only go on my personal experience. I've gone 10,000 miles on
    Specialized Armadillos and 10,000 miles on Conti Grand Prixes with no
    problems ever, but got a slashed sidewall on my first cheapo Sport
    1000.

    Maybe just coincidence, but I don't mind spending the extra $25 per
    year on superstition.

    Well I'm jealous. I have the opposite problem. Seems like whenever I
    spring for an expensive tire, it gets end-of-lifed by a glass cut long
    before I have the pleasure of wearing it out. The cheap ones, however,
    last forever and I get sick and tired of them and swap them out while
    they still have miles left, just for a change. That is exactly what
    happened the one time I tried Conti Sport 1000s. I did not think that
    they rode as nice as Ultra 2000s, though.

    I think that your experience was atypical and that you should continue
    to buy Sport 1000s -- but for $9.99 on sale.

    dkl

  10. mike-<< I never have understood why people JRA ride the lightweight racing
    tires... >><BR><BR>

    Cuz they look cool at the coffee shop?

    Don know either. we sell many more Conti GP3000, Vittoria Open CX than the
    really nice Ritchey 'RaceSlick at $25.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  11. Douglas Landau said:


    Well I'm jealous. I have the opposite problem. Seems like whenever I
    spring for an expensive tire, it gets end-of-lifed by a glass cut long
    before I have the pleasure of wearing it out.

    That's because the expensive tires you got were Conti's.

    --

    David L. Johnson

    __o | If all economists were laid end to end, they would not reach a
    _`\(,_ | conclusion. -- George Bernard Shaw
    (_)/ (_) |

  12. "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    mike-<< I never have understood why people JRA ride the lightweight racing
    tires... >><BR><BR>

    Cuz they look cool at the coffee shop?

    Don know either. we sell many more Conti GP3000, Vittoria Open CX than the
    really nice Ritchey 'RaceSlick at $25.

    I've got some of those Ritchey tires on my Ritchey Pro wheels, which match my
    Ritchey Pro stems... Seem to be good tires...

    M

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  13. "SDMike" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:f0DHc.1712$6B.638@fed1read06:

    Quoted message said:

    I've got some of those Ritchey tires on my Ritchey Pro wheels, which
    match my Ritchey Pro stems... Seem to be good tires...

    I bought some Ritchy slick road tires last year. They wore out very quickly.
    The Michelin and Panaracer tires I use now are much more durable.

  14. "SDMike" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Qui si parla Campagnolo " <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    mike-<< I never have understood why people JRA ride the lightweight


    racing

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    tires... >><BR><BR>

    Cuz they look cool at the coffee shop?

    Don know either. we sell many more Conti GP3000, Vittoria Open CX than


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    really nice Ritchey 'RaceSlick at $25.

    I've got some of those Ritchey tires on my Ritchey Pro wheels, which match


    my

    Quoted message said:

    Ritchey Pro stems... Seem to be good tires...

    What widths are available? Do you sell them at your shop, and if so how much
    are they plz?

    Quoted message said:


    M

    Quoted message said:

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  15. chris-<< What widths are available? Do you sell them at your shop, and if so
    how much
    are they plz? >><BR><BR>

    23c, $25 per

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  16. try the conti tt: double the rubber, good in rain and surfaced muck or
    road skim. when the tire's rain grooves weardown- a erzatz 3000.

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