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cassette slippage problem

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  1. A problem developed recently with my fairly new cassette/chain. Both
    are 6 months old, and I've ridden about 1,500 miles/2400 km with them.
    While I'm pedaling, it will suddenly feel like the chain is slipping.
    Upon investigation, however, the chain is securely attached to the
    cassette cogs, chainring, & derailleur cogs. The chain is NOT
    slipping. Basically, the wheel will briefly NOT be propelled forward
    by the cassette as the chain pulls on the cassette cog. It happens
    with each cassette cog and every gear I have tried. If there is
    resistance, such as while pedaling up a hill, there seems to be no
    slippage. It tends to happen on mostly flat roads. I can induce it
    by stopping my pedaling momentarily. The next pedaling stroke will
    usually have slippage before my pedaling causes the rear wheel to
    propel the bike forward. But it most commonly happens suddenly as I'm
    simply pedaling normally on a flat road.

    Does anyone have an idea what is causing the problem, and if it can be
    fixed?

    Thanks,
    Eric

  2. You have freewheel problems, specifically the ratchet/pawls are somehow
    not engaging. Some are spring loaded, others are driven.

    You didn't mention what brand of freehub you have but I would guess
    its a sprung pawl type. Dirt or hardened grease will do this. It needs
    to be disassembled and relubed. You might need a bearing and pawl
    spring swap too.

    --

  3. (Eric) said:

    Does anyone have an idea what is causing the problem, and if it can be
    fixed?

    It sounds like the grease in the freehub has congealed and is causing
    the pawls to stick. Try dripping a little low-viscosity lubricant
    into the works. Disassembling the freehub is not a procedure that
    should be attempted blindly, and many (if not most) can be lubed
    without dismantling.
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  4. I figured out what was causing the problem (sort of), and was able to
    easily fix it. It was neither the cassette, nor the chain, nor the
    chainwheel, nor the rear derailleur. The bike happens to have an
    internal rear hub shifter which is an equivalent of a triple chainring
    up front. There is a cable and miniature chain which controls it via
    a derailleur-type lever on the handlebars. Either the miniature chain
    slipped a notch, or the cable stretched. It was causing something
    funky to sporadically happen to the hub shifter, even though I was
    having no problem shifting it. I noticed the cable flickering
    strangely as I pedaled. By pushing the miniature chain in a notch
    (i.e. tightening the cable), the problem immediately disappeared.
    Thanks for your responses.

    Eric

  5. I figured out what was causing the problem (sort of), and was able to
    easily fix it. It was neither the cassette, nor the chain, nor the
    chainwheel, nor the rear derailleur. The bike happens to have an
    internal rear hub shifter which is an equivalent of a triple chainring
    up front. There is a cable and miniature chain which controls it via
    a derailleur-type lever on the handlebars. Either the miniature chain
    slipped a notch, or the cable stretched. It was causing something
    funky to sporadically happen to the hub shifter, even though I was
    having no problem shifting it. I noticed the cable flickering
    strangely as I pedaled. By pushing the miniature chain in a notch
    (i.e. tightening the cable), the problem immediately disappeared.
    Thanks for your responses.

    Eric

  6. eric-<< While I'm pedaling, it will suddenly feel like the chain is slipping.

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    << Basically, the wheel will briefly NOT be propelled forward
    by the cassette as the chain pulls on the cassette cog. >><BR><BR>

    Sounds like the pawl system in your rear hub is broken or sticky. Depends on
    the make on whether it can be repaired or needs replacement. If shimano, and
    two pawl ststem, with one 'damaged' breaking the other can really hurt-be
    careful.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  7. Eric said:

    I figured out what was causing the problem (sort of), and was able to
    easily fix it. It was neither the cassette, nor the chain, nor the
    chainwheel, nor the rear derailleur. The bike happens to have an
    internal rear hub shifter which is an equivalent of a triple chainring
    up front. There is a cable and miniature chain which controls it via
    a derailleur-type lever on the handlebars. Either the miniature chain
    slipped a notch, or the cable stretched. It was causing something
    funky to sporadically happen to the hub shifter, even though I was
    having no problem shifting it. I noticed the cable flickering
    strangely as I pedaled. By pushing the miniature chain in a notch
    (i.e. tightening the cable), the problem immediately disappeared.
    Thanks for your responses.

    This part is known as the "indicator chain".

    I suggest carrying a spare, since if it breaks you will be stuck in high
    range (1.36:1 overdrive). I had this happen on a SRAM Spectro 3x7 hub.

    There is a “false neutral” that can accidentally be engaged in the
    SRAM/Sachs 3x7 hub (and presumably the 3-speed Sachs Torpedo hub on
    which it is based). I am not aware if this occurs with the SRAM 3x7/8/9
    DualDrive hub that has different internals.

    --
    Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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