Water Bottle Solutions?

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Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to avoid
wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

I've seen brackets that bolt around the frame tubes and have the mounts for
bottle cages on. I think on SJS Cycles' website.

Profile makes the "Aqua Rack" where you clamp it onto the seatpost and the
cages sit behind the saddle. I use it for really long race/rides so I can
get 4 bottles on the bike without having to keep any in my jersey. I think
it's about US $30 including the cages...

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Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to avoid
wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

Thanks.

Quoted message said:

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to avoid
wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

Any cage can be attached with two big jubilee clips over the positions
where the bolts would go.
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David Damerell <[email hidden]> Distortion Field!

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Quoted message said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to avoid
wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

Thanks.

Hose clamps (used to secure coolant hoses to a car's radiator) work quite
nicely with any water bottle cage I've seen. Put a layer of electrician's
tape around the frame tube before installing the clamp if you're worried
about marring the paint.
--
mark

Quoted message said:

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to

avoid

Quoted message said:

wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

If it has round tubes Zefal Gizmo's are the nicest solution:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/GIZMO.JPG

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Quoted message said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to

avoid

Quoted message said:

wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

Thanks.

In article <[email hidden]>,

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Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

See http://www.twofishunlimited.com/bike.html

They appear to have two styles now, one with a stainless steel cage, and
an older one with a plastic cage. I've used the older plastic cage
successfully, but I've never seen the new stainless steel cages in
person.

Quoted message said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to avoid
wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

The are purpose-made band-on bottle cage bosses, which any good bike
shop should have. I used them for a while (with bits of old inner tube
underneath to protect the frame) and they were absolutely fine.

Dave said:

Profile makes the "Aqua Rack" where you clamp it onto the seatpost
and the cages sit behind the saddle. I use it for really long
race/rides so I can get 4 bottles on the bike without having to keep
any in my jersey. I think it's about US $30 including the cages...

Do you actually like those Profile cages? I was looking at one of those
Aqua Rack's in the store last weekend, but it seemed to me that the cages
held the standard size bottles just waaay too tightly. (Unless I'm being
stupid, and it's made for those new smaller bottles?)

Actually, they work pretty well. I use all std size bottles, large and
small ones. The cages hold it snugly, but not too tight. I actually like
it that I can put my hand behind my back, grab the bottle, and it slips in
nicely when I put it back. Much more of a smooth and natural motion I
think, than reaching down to the seat or downtube cage and then getting it
back in there. Took a little getting used to in finding it to put it back,
but I like it in general.

The biggest problem is that some of the guys I race with keep calling me a
tri geek and making fun of it ;-)

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Dave said:

Profile makes the "Aqua Rack" where you clamp it onto the seatpost
and the cages sit behind the saddle. I use it for really long
race/rides so I can get 4 bottles on the bike without having to keep
any in my jersey. I think it's about US $30 including the cages...

Do you actually like those Profile cages? I was looking at one of those
Aqua Rack's in the store last weekend, but it seemed to me that the cages
held the standard size bottles just waaay too tightly. (Unless I'm being
stupid, and it's made for those new smaller bottles?)

may have said:

Hi,

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to avoid
wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

This depends on your level of acceptance for inelegant engineering
and/or your availability of a rivnut setter.

The classic solution is to add the mounts by installing rivnuts. This
is not always practical advice.

The lowest-tech solution is to use a pair of automotive heater hose
clamps to mount the water bottle cage to the frame. It's not elegant,
it can tear up the paint, and unless a band of innertube is wrapped
around the frame tube inside each well-tightened clamp, the cage will
tend to rotate out of position at the most infuriating (and possibly
hazardous) moment. I mention this technique only because you have
indicated that this is not a high-budget project.

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Although the OP has indicated he would prefer not to wear a hydration
pack, I would like to say that since I started using a Camelbak Rocket
about 2 months ago, I have found hydration much easier and more
efficient. When the hose is just inches from your mouth it is so much
easier to stay properly hydrated. With bottles I always found I had to
stop, fuel up and then go again. This broke down the rhythm of the ride
and it was deffo a case of too much not often enough. Little and often
is the way and a hydration pack really does help this IMHO.

Quoted message said:

Another question about my FrankenBike. It's a Puch Prima frame and
there are no mounts for a water bottle cage. I would prefer to avoid
wearing a hydration pack -- what possible solutions are there for
keeping water on the frame? Are there any brands of cages that can
attach without the requisite mounts?

Riders managed for years before brazed-in mounts became
popular. Zefal has a nice unit for that:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/bottle.html

last photo on that page

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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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Dave said:

Profile makes the "Aqua Rack" where you clamp it onto the seatpost
and the cages sit behind the saddle. I use it for really long
race/rides so I can get 4 bottles on the bike without having to keep
any in my jersey. I think it's about US $30 including the cages...

Do you actually like those Profile cages? I was looking at one of those
Aqua Rack's in the store last weekend, but it seemed to me that the cages
held the standard size bottles just waaay too tightly. (Unless I'm being
stupid, and it's made for those new smaller bottles?)

Hi there. I have that setup and I love it. If you hit a hard bump the
bottles don't get ejected. They also allow you to use Gatorade or Powerade
bottles as well. If you find the cages too tight for your standard bottles
try removing the rubber band around the cage lip. This will make the grip a
fair bit looser yet still hold the bottle securely.
Hope this helps. Cheers.

David Waters said:

Although the OP has indicated he would prefer not to wear a hydration
pack, I would like to say that since I started using a Camelbak Rocket
about 2 months ago, I have found hydration much easier and more
efficient. When the hose is just inches from your mouth it is so much
easier to stay properly hydrated. With bottles I always found I had to
stop, fuel up and then go again.

Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can easily drink from
and replace a water bottle while pedalling - much better than carrying
around a big bag of water on my back.
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David Damerell said:

David Waters said:

Although the OP has indicated he would prefer not to wear a hydration
pack, I would like to say that since I started using a Camelbak Rocket
about 2 months ago, I have found hydration much easier and more
efficient. When the hose is just inches from your mouth it is so much
easier to stay properly hydrated. With bottles I always found I had to
stop, fuel up and then go again.

Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can easily drink from
and replace a water bottle while pedalling - much better than carrying
around a big bag of water on my back.

possibly, but a hydration pack allows me to carry 3 litres plus extra on
the bike if it is a hot day. The bag gives me a small amount of storage
for energy bars, a credit card and keys.

David Waters said:

David Damerell said:

Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can easily drink from
and replace a water bottle while pedalling - much better than carrying
around a big bag of water on my back.

possibly, but a hydration pack allows me to carry 3 litres plus extra on
the bike if it is a hot day. The bag gives me a small amount of storage
for energy bars, a credit card and keys.

Sounds to me like a job for a saddlebag. Then you could also carry
puncture repair materials, a cellphone, waterproofs, locks, etc. without
loading yourself down with even a scrap of your gear, let alone three
kilos of water.
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David Waters said:

David Damerell said:

Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can easily drink

from

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and replace a water bottle while pedalling - much better than carrying
around a big bag of water on my back.

possibly, but a hydration pack allows me to carry 3 litres plus extra on
the bike if it is a hot day. The bag gives me a small amount of storage
for energy bars, a credit card and keys.

Sounds to me like a job for a saddlebag. Then you could also carry
puncture repair materials, a cellphone, waterproofs, locks, etc. without
loading yourself down with even a scrap of your gear, let alone three
kilos of water.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill the tomato!

What about the use of a hydration pack while mt biking? Seems like it might
be better to have all things (including water) stowed away in a pack rather
than hanging off your bike.

rosco reverse-the-following'ocsor_g'@hotmail.com said:

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Sounds to me like a job for a saddlebag. Then you could also carry
puncture repair materials, a cellphone, waterproofs, locks, etc. without
loading yourself down with even a scrap of your gear, let alone three
kilos of water.

What about the use of a hydration pack while mt biking?

That's another question altogether.
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rosco said:

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David Waters said:

David Damerell wrote:

>Wouldn't it be easier to develop better technique? I can easily drink

from

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>and replace a water bottle while pedalling - much better than carrying
>around a big bag of water on my back.

possibly, but a hydration pack allows me to carry 3 litres plus extra on
the bike if it is a hot day. The bag gives me a small amount of storage
for energy bars, a credit card and keys.

Sounds to me like a job for a saddlebag. Then you could also carry
puncture repair materials, a cellphone, waterproofs, locks, etc. without
loading yourself down with even a scrap of your gear, let alone three
kilos of water.
--
David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill the tomato!

What about the use of a hydration pack while mt biking? Seems like it might
be better to have all things (including water) stowed away in a pack rather
than hanging off your bike.

I forgot to add. I do quite a lot of mt biking and this is where the
hydration pack comes into its own. Keeps the water and the drinking
nozzle well away from all the mud, which over here in the UK can be
quite plentiful! Now I have gotten so used to using my Camelbak i just
use it when I go road riding, out of habbit as much as anything else.