Windsor Bikes

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If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a Mexican brand that
produced Cinneli copies (some quite good, as a matter of fact) and several
other bikes during the 'seventies (look out
for bad paint and sloppy welds on the frame, though... unskilled Mexican
labor, don'tcha know).

I never saw a welded Windsor, they were all lugged and brazed. Poor paint was
common on Italian bikes of the same period. And did you ever look at the paint
and welding on a 70s Huffy? Unskilled American labor, don'tcha know.
Phil Brown

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor Bikes? I'm
planing on buying one but cant get any independent info. Thanks Gary

If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a Mexican brand that produced Cinneli copies (some quite good, as a matter of fact) and several other bikes during the 'seventies (look out
for bad paint and sloppy welds on the frame, though... unskilled Mexican labor, don'tcha know).

Phil Brown said:

Quoted message said:

If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a Mexican brand

that

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produced Cinneli copies (some quite good, as a matter of fact) and

several

Quoted message said:

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other bikes during the 'seventies (look out
for bad paint and sloppy welds on the frame, though... unskilled Mexican
labor, don'tcha know).

I never saw a welded Windsor, they were all lugged and brazed. Poor paint

was

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common on Italian bikes of the same period. And did you ever look at the

paint

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and welding on a 70s Huffy? Unskilled American labor, don'tcha know.
Phil Brown

Most likely the OP is talking about a new "Windsor" which is an inexpensive
Chinese made bike sold mostly through mail order and the internet. Caveat
Emptor.

Art Harris

Arthur Harris said:

Phil Brown said:

Quoted message said:

If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a Mexican brand

that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

produced Cinneli copies (some quite good, as a matter of fact) and

several

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

other bikes during the 'seventies (look out
for bad paint and sloppy welds on the frame, though... unskilled Mexican
labor, don'tcha know).

I never saw a welded Windsor, they were all lugged and brazed. Poor paint

was

Quoted message said:

common on Italian bikes of the same period. And did you ever look at the

paint

Quoted message said:

and welding on a 70s Huffy? Unskilled American labor, don'tcha know.
Phil Brown

Most likely the OP is talking about a new "Windsor" which is an inexpensive
Chinese made bike sold mostly through mail order and the internet. Caveat
Emptor.

Art Harris

Dear Garrison, Phil, and Arthur,

Actually, the Windsors are a low-quality German import from
Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha re-badged for marketing purposes during
the Great War.

Æthelred II

Arthur Harris said:

Phil Brown said:

Quoted message said:

If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a Mexican

brand that

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

produced Cinneli copies (some quite good, as a matter of fact) and
several other bikes during the 'seventies (look out
for bad paint and sloppy welds on the frame, though... unskilled
Mexican labor, don'tcha know).

I never saw a welded Windsor, they were all lugged and brazed. Poor
paint was common on Italian bikes of the same period. And did you
ever look at the paint and welding on a 70s Huffy? Unskilled
American labor, don'tcha know. Phil Brown

Most likely the OP is talking about a new "Windsor" which is an
inexpensive Chinese made bike sold mostly through mail order and the
internet. Caveat Emptor.

I've heard these old brand names are being reused by people unrelated to the
brand originally. The brands had fallen into disuse, and the names not
protected, so anyone can pick them up and start using them again. I believe the
current Windsors fall into this category. I have no idea about the bikes
themselves, or the people selling them though. They may be terrific, or
terrible

Matt O.

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor Bikes? I'm
planing on buying one but cant get any independent info.

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker a while
ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a Windsor Profesional
(Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in Mexico"😉 track bike that's
probably 25 years old or so- a nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

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Quoted message said:

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor Bikes? I'm
planing on buying one but cant get any independent info.

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker a while
ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a Windsor Profesional
(Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in Mexico"😉 track bike that's
probably 25 years old or so- a nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing special but a decent
value. I believe that someone purchased the Windsor name and started
importing low-end bikes with the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

RWM said:

One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing special but a decent
value. I believe that someone purchased the Windsor name and started
importing low-end bikes with the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

Oh, THAT jerk... he bought the Motobecane name, too!

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RWM said:

One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing special but a

decent

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value. I believe that someone purchased the Windsor name and started
importing low-end bikes with the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

Oh, THAT jerk... he bought the Motobecane name, too!

And a few others.

Tim McNamara said:

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor Bikes? I'm
planing on buying one but cant get any independent info.

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker a while
ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a Windsor Profesional
(Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in Mexico"😉 track bike that's
probably 25 years old or so- a nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

As it should be, since the founder of Windsor in Mexico was a former
Cinelli employee. And another Windsor employee (Tim Isaac) left to become
the frame designer at Trek in the early 1980's.

--

-John ([email hidden])

OMG, I haven't even SEEN a Windsor since the middle 1970's! Are they
really still made?

- -

"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

Chris'Z Corner
http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

Gary Cole said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor Bikes? I'm
planing on buying one but cant get any independent info. Thanks Gary

Year? Model? Fit? Condition? Equipment?

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Quoted message said:

RWM said:

One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing special but a decent
value. I believe that someone purchased the Windsor name and started
importing low-end bikes with the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

Garrison Hilliard said:

Oh, THAT jerk... he bought the Motobecane name, too!

"bought" ? really??

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

John Thompson said:

Tim McNamara said:

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor Bikes? I'm
planing on buying one but cant get any independent info.

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker a while
ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a Windsor
Profesional (Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in Mexico"😉 track
bike that's probably 25 years old or so- a nice bike, basically a
Cinelli copy.

As it should be, since the founder of Windsor in Mexico was a former
Cinelli employee.

Yup, it's a very faithful Cinelli copy and rides very nicely. I
raced it in the velodrome for a few years and now use it as my
commuter and fun single speed bike with a coaster brake hub.

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And another Windsor employee (Tim Isaac) left to
become the frame designer at Trek in the early 1980's.

Possibly the same Tim Isaac who started Match in the NorthWest and
built some Rivendell frames until going out of business?

Tim McNamara said:

John Thompson said:

And another Windsor employee (Tim Isaac) left to
become the frame designer at Trek in the early 1980's.

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Possibly the same Tim Isaac who started Match in the NorthWest and
built some Rivendell frames until going out of business?

Quite likely. After leaving Trek, Isaac worked for Raleigh-USA in
Washington.

I have some pics of my TS Isaac bike here:

http://www.os2.dhs.org/pictures/gallery/bikes

--

-John ([email hidden])

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RWM said:

One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing special but a decent
value. I believe that someone purchased the Windsor name and started
importing low-end bikes with the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

Garrison Hilliard said:

Oh, THAT jerk... he bought the Motobecane name, too!

"bought" ? really??

I'm not too sure there, but I thought MBK still existed in some form
when
David Sander started using the "Motobecane" mark and it follows that
Sander probably did pay a minor amount for the complete rights (or, of
course, maybe not).

p.s. About the new "Windsor":
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&safe=off&threadm=3fa59650%241_1%40news.chariot.net.au&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fnum%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DISO-8859-1%26safe%3Doff%26q%3D%2522bikes%2Bdirect%2522%252B%2522motobecane%2522

Tim McNamara said:

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker a while
ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a Windsor Profesional
(Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in Mexico"😉 track bike that's
probably 25 years old or so- a nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

Oh, that must be the model Eddy set the hour record on. ;->

See:
http://tinyurl.com/2ghpv

Art Harris