Ganglian Cyst: A Result of Cycling?

GJ,

I believe the latest scientific consensus is that a ganglion cyst is a mark
of the Devil...

"Gary Jacobson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I wonder if this is amore common problem among cyclists than in the

general

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population?

Ganglion cysts, it is thought, can arise from tendonitis and arthritis. I
think that the soft tissue in my hands has been stressed from a relatively
large volume of riding this spring. For many years I've had pain in the

area

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that the cyst has sprouted, and I have always attributed the pain to

riding.

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This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic reasons. Maybe a
dumb move.

No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst interferes with the
motion of my thumb and impinges on nerves, and so I think riding will just
makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by

hitting

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them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

Gary Jacobson said:

I wonder if this is amore common problem among cyclists than in the
general population?

Ganglion cysts, it is thought, can arise from tendonitis and
arthritis. I think that the soft tissue in my hands has been stressed
from a relatively large volume of riding this spring. For many years
I've had pain in the area that the cyst has sprouted, and I have
always attributed the pain to riding.

This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic reasons.
Maybe a dumb move.

No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst interferes with
the motion of my thumb and impinges on nerves, and so I think riding
will just makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by
hitting them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)

Bang it with a copy of Zinn? 🙂

(Actually, I think that /really is/ an accepted treatment for ganglion
cysts -- pound 'em into submission?)

Bill "suggest consulting your doc" S.

Gary Jacobson said:

I wonder if this is amore common problem among cyclists than in the
general population?
Ganglion cysts, it is thought, can arise from tendonitis and arthritis.
I think that the soft tissue in my hands has been stressed from a
relatively large volume of riding this spring. For many years I've had
pain in the area that the cyst has sprouted, and I have always
attributed the pain to riding.
This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic reasons. Maybe
a dumb move.
No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst interferes with the
motion of my thumb and impinges on nerves, and so I think riding will
just makes it worse.
Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by
hitting them with a bible. Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)
Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY

Dear Gary,

Here's what a doctor pointed out last October when the subject
last came up:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40po-
sting.google.com&output=gplain>

Note the comment about cancer.

He was too tactful to add that misguided patients occasionally break
their own wrists in their enthusiasm.

Carl Fogel

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carlfogel said:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40po-
sting.google.com&output=gplain>

Or in a more easily browsed form:
http://tinyurl.com/ysve9

--
R.

<> Richard Brockie "Categorical statements
<> The tall blond one. always cause trouble."
<> [email hidden]

carlfogel said:

Gary Jacobson said:

I wonder if this is amore common problem among cyclists than in the
general population?
Ganglion cysts, it is thought, can arise from tendonitis and arthritis.
I think that the soft tissue in my hands has been stressed from a
relatively large volume of riding this spring. For many years I've had
pain in the area that the cyst has sprouted, and I have always
attributed the pain to riding.
This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic reasons. Maybe
a dumb move.
No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst interferes with the
motion of my thumb and impinges on nerves, and so I think riding will
just makes it worse.
Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by
hitting them with a bible. Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)
Gary Jacobson Rosendale, NY

Dear Gary,

Here's what a doctor pointed out last October when the subject
last came up:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40po-
sting.google.com&output=gplain>

Note the comment about cancer.

He was too tactful to add that misguided patients occasionally break
their own wrists in their enthusiasm.

Carl Fogel

Dear Richard,

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest url.
(Or the editor that I used added a hyphen and broke the
line.)

Thanks for smacking the swollen address flat with tinyurl.

Carl Fogel

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Dear Richard,

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest url.
(Or the editor that I used added a hyphen and broke the
line.)

Thanks for smacking the swollen address flat with tinyurl.

Dear Carl,

I had never heard of angled brackets serving that function. I must
admit that I was stumped by the hyphen for a moment.

By the way, you have me thinking about getting my own Fury roadmaster
to play on - do they come big enough for someone 6'4"?

--
R.

<> Richard Brockie "Categorical statements
<> The tall blond one. always cause trouble."
<> [email hidden]

Richard Brockie said:

Quoted message said:

Dear Richard,

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest url.
(Or the editor that I used added a hyphen and broke the
line.)

Thanks for smacking the swollen address flat with tinyurl.

Dear Carl,

I had never heard of angled brackets serving that function. I must
admit that I was stumped by the hyphen for a moment.

By the way, you have me thinking about getting my own Fury roadmaster
to play on - do they come big enough for someone 6'4"?

Dear Richard,

Arrgh! Replied to the wrong post, but you still found me.
Bad day.

I hadn't heard of the angled bracket trick, either, but
here's where I saw it:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=egotc.2931%24Ic3.583%40fe13.usenetserver.com&output=gplain>

or

http://tinyurl.com/yrarz

A different editor may let this long address survive.
Probably I just goofed something up, since Dave Ornee is
usually reliable.

As for the Fury RoadMaster, I suspect that it's only
available from WalMart and therefore beyond your grasp in
the UK. Here's the ad:

<http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.gsp?cat=61903&dept=4171&product_id=2073252&path=0%3A4171%3A61903%3A61904%3A4180%3A4183%3A5304#long_descr>

or

http://tinyurl.com/2zy5p

I'm just a touch over six feet and around 195 pounds, but
luckily had a long seatpost of the right size lying around
from God knows what. Riders your height probably need custom
bikes anyway.

The Fury RoadMaster, as you can see in the specifications,
is intended for riders aged 10 to 17 (or 14 to adult,
depending on where you read) and the price has now risen
from $53.71 to $58.88, presumably due to demand for reliable
transportation caused by the rising gasoline prices being
discussed hopefully in other threads.

The forty-pound shipping weight (mostly cardboard, or so my
Fury assures me) would make export expensive.

Possibly there's a similar bike in a similar UK store?

Carl Fogel

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As for the Fury RoadMaster, I suspect that it's only
available from WalMart and therefore beyond your grasp in
the UK. Here's the ad:

Dear Carl,

Thanks for the links (which worked this time with the angled
brackets). Do not be mislead as to my location by the email address -
that is a vanity domain which advertises my origin. I am currently
located a little down the road from Mike Jacoubowsky's shop where I
worked shortly after moving to the US.

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I'm just a touch over six feet and around 195 pounds, but
luckily had a long seatpost of the right size lying around
from God knows what. Riders your height probably need custom
bikes anyway.

I am on the borderline for custom - the old Klein 63cm size of frames
works very nicely for me. What diameter is the seat post in the Fury?

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The Fury RoadMaster, as you can see in the specifications,
is intended for riders aged 10 to 17 (or 14 to adult,
depending on where you read) and the price has now risen
from $53.71 to $58.88, presumably due to demand for reliable
transportation caused by the rising gasoline prices being
discussed hopefully in other threads.

The forty-pound shipping weight (mostly cardboard, or so my
Fury assures me) would make export expensive.

Possibly there's a similar bike in a similar UK store?

Almost certainly, as Walmart (by another name), exists in the UK.

--
R.

<> Richard Brockie "Categorical statements
<> The tall blond one. always cause trouble."
<> [email hidden]

"Gary Jacobson" <[email hidden]> wrote in
news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by
hitting them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

If the book trick doesn't work, you can have it drained.

--
Peder (Please reply to group only, email invalid)

Gary Jacobson said:

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by hitting
them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)

My non-cycling wife had one two years ago, I whacked it with a heavy
book (I think it was "Organic Chemistry"!) and it never came back (the
ganglion that is, not the wife).

Richard Brockie said:

By the way, you have me thinking about getting my own Fury roadmaster
to play on - do they come big enough for someone 6'4"?

Yes, but only if you buy the bike stretcher (sold separately). My
bike stretcher is made by GMC and is powered by an 8 cylinder
internal combustion engine...just tie the head tube to the bike
stretcher, tie the rear triangle to a tree, and stretch!
--
Rick Onanian

In <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] opined:

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So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest url.

Standard practice uses more than just angle brackets. It also includes
"url:" prefixed to the actual URI, and harks back to a time when there
may have actually been a need to explain that something like
http://www.yahoo.com was a URL and not, well, something else. So:

<url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40posting.google.com&output=gplain>

may be what you meant to do.

My medical advice regarding my own ganglion cysts was simply to leave
them alone unless they were in a particularly bothersome location, in
which case they could easily be corrected through a surgical office
procedure. I had the one at my right distal thumb joint treated because
it made writing difficult, and I'm about to have the one on my forearm
treated for the 21st century version of the same reason, but the one
near my elbow and the one in my lower back just aren't much of a problem
and will remain as they are.

--
Dave Salovesh
[email hidden]
(REPLACE example WITH mindspring TO EMAIL ME)

Gary Jacobson said:

This year I moved away from anatomical bars for aesthetic
reasons. Maybe a dumb move.

IME "anatomical" bars were far less anatomically appropriate for me,
and were uncomfortable and fugly to boot.

Quoted message said:

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of
*cycling habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be
cured by hitting them with a bible. Maybe I need to consult a nun
who rides.)

Any large book will do, it just ruptures the cyst and disperses the
fluid therein. A Bible was usually the largest, heaviest book around
the house.

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No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst interferes with the
motion of my thumb and impinges on nerves, and so I think riding will just
makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by hitting
them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)

they can be treated with a good wack. or the doc can tear it with a needle and
drain it. I had a big one on the side of my foot. it got worse for weeks after
the treatment then went away.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

From experience choose a book with a flexible cover and it is challenging
doing it yourself!
The one on my wrist came back and it was time for volume two. Luckily, there
was no third time.

"Steve Knight" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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No real treatment for it and unfortunately the cyst interferes with the
motion of my thumb and impinges on nerves, and so I think riding will

just

Quoted message said:

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makes it worse.

Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by

hitting

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)

they can be treated with a good wack. or the doc can tear it with a needle

and

Quoted message said:

drain it. I had a big one on the side of my foot. it got worse for weeks

after

Quoted message said:

the treatment then went away.

--
Knight-Toolworks & Custom Planes
Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices
See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions.

I tried this, boy did that hurt (and it didn't work).
Steve.

Gary Jacobson said:

...
Anyone else had this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling
habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by hitting
them with a bible.
Maybe I need to consult a nun who rides.)

Gary Jacobson
Rosendale, NY

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"Gary Jacobson" [email hidden] wrote: >Anyone else had

this problem, and did it lead to a change of *cycling

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habits*? (It used to be thought that these things could be cured by hitting
them with a bible.

I developed one of these a while back after a particularly exuberant day of
jumping waves on a jetski among other things. Mine is on the top of my right
wrist (palm facing down) just to the left of center. Basically several people
told me to see a doctor - but - they'd had the same problem and whacked it with
a book. Internet research said that it is the result of fluid buildup in a
sheath and it can be drained or removed surgically.
Oddly enough, mine started to subside one day after massaging the forearm
muscle near my elbow. It gets a little bigger occasionally so I tap it against
the edge of my desktop. It's a little more controllable than trusting someone's
book aiming prowess.
Now I understand why everyone told me to see a doctor after not doing so
themselves.

Tim

"Dave Salovesh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In <[email hidden]>,
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So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest url.

Standard practice uses more than just angle brackets. It also includes
"url:" prefixed to the actual URI, and harks back to a time when there
may have actually been a need to explain that something like
http://www.yahoo.com was a URL and not, well, something else. So:

<url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40pos
ting.google.com&output=gplain>

<url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40pos
ting.google.com&output=gplain>

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"Dave Salovesh" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] opined:

Quoted message said:

So much for the vaunted angled brackets! I was grossly
deceived about their power to contain even the longest url.

Standard practice uses more than just angle brackets. It also includes
"url:" prefixed to the actual URI, and harks back to a time when there
may have actually been a need to explain that something like
http://www.yahoo.com was a URL and not, well, something else. So:

<url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40pos

Quoted message said:

ting.google.com&output=gplain>

<url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40pos

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ting.google.com&output=gplain>

url:http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20c7afc9.0310070217.14e5a004%40post
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