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  1. I don't know a lot about bikes. Well I bought a new bike and road it for
    almost a year. Then I broke my first spoke. That was about 3 weeks ago.
    Well on the way to work today I broke another one. I was wandering if
    this is normal? I commute everyday to work and hate sending it to a shop
    because it takes to long to get it back especially when you commuted
    every day to work. Should I get it fixed again? Did the bike shop that I
    take it do a bad job replacing the old spoke? Should I by a new rim. Any
    suggestions if I do buy a new one. I just want something that can handle
    some rough road. Weight doesn't matter that much. I don't race just
    commute to work and take long rides. Price range would be helpful also.

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  2. Quoted message said:

    I don't know a lot about bikes. Well I bought a new bike and road it for
    almost a year. Then I broke my first spoke. That was about 3 weeks ago.
    Well on the way to work today I broke another one. I was wandering if
    this is normal? I commute everyday to work and hate sending it to a shop
    because it takes to long to get it back especially when you commuted
    every day to work. Should I get it fixed again? Did the bike shop that I
    take it do a bad job replacing the old spoke? Should I by a new rim. Any
    suggestions if I do buy a new one. I just want something that can handle
    some rough road. Weight doesn't matter that much. I don't race just
    commute to work and take long rides. Price range would be helpful also.

    Most likely your spokes are at their maximum fatigue length due to improper
    stress relieving. The shop most likely replaced the spoke just fine, however
    the other spokes are near the of their life cycle as well. My guess is you
    have straight gauge spokes (not doubled butted). Either get the wheel
    rebuilt properely or buy a new one. I'd just buy a new one and use the other
    one as a backup. As many people will tell you, get it stress relieved if you
    buy a factory produced wheel.

    David

  3. bcsst26 said:

    I don't know a lot about bikes. Well I bought a new bike and road it for
    almost a year. Then I broke my first spoke. That was about 3 weeks ago.
    Well on the way to work today I broke another one. I was wandering if
    this is normal? I commute everyday to work and hate sending it to a shop
    because it takes to long to get it back especially when you commuted
    every day to work. Should I get it fixed again? Did the bike shop that I
    take it do a bad job replacing the old spoke? Should I by a new rim. Any
    suggestions if I do buy a new one. I just want something that can handle
    some rough road. Weight doesn't matter that much. I don't race just
    commute to work and take long rides. Price range would be helpful also.

    Spoke breakage usually occurs due to fatigue. Like bending a paper clip.
    You might be better off with another well built wheel that is at least
    hand finished to take care of spoke alignment and stress relieving.
    However, your existing wheel could be rebuilt with quality double butted
    spokes and the same procedure of spoke alignment, tesnion balacning, and
    stress relieving could also get the job done. What rim are you using?
    What spoking pattern? .... and how many spokes per wheel?

    --

  4. bcsst26 said:

    I don't know a lot about bikes. Well I bought a new bike and road it for
    almost a year. Then I broke my first spoke. That was about 3 weeks ago.
    Well on the way to work today I broke another one. I was wandering if
    this is normal? I commute everyday to work and hate sending it to a shop
    because it takes to long to get it back especially when you commuted
    every day to work. Should I get it fixed again? Did the bike shop that I
    take it do a bad job replacing the old spoke? Should I by a new rim. Any
    suggestions if I do buy a new one. I just want something that can handle
    some rough road. Weight doesn't matter that much. I don't race just
    commute to work and take long rides. Price range would be helpful also.

    Need more info. Rear wheel? drive side? Type of bike? Weight load?
    Breaking at elbow?

    Try plucking the spokes. Spokes on one side should all have nearly the
    same musical pitch. If not, spoke tension is uneven.

    Sounds like a poorly built (probably machine built) wheel. Depending on
    the quality of the hub and rim, it might be worth re-building with all new
    spokes (replace one at a time to ensure that the hub is laced the same
    as it was originally).

    Art Harris

  5. Buy a spare bike, or a spare wheel. A spare bike needn't be very
    costly. You may find in addition that you prefer your cheap bike.
    --
    Ron Hardin
    [email hidden]

    On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

  6. what brand were the spokes?

    suggest rebuild with good quality name brand like sapim or d.t. much
    better reliability.

    bcsst26 said:

    I don't know a lot about bikes. Well I bought a new bike and road it for
    almost a year. Then I broke my first spoke. That was about 3 weeks ago.
    Well on the way to work today I broke another one. I was wandering if
    this is normal? I commute everyday to work and hate sending it to a shop
    because it takes to long to get it back especially when you commuted
    every day to work. Should I get it fixed again? Did the bike shop that I
    take it do a bad job replacing the old spoke? Should I by a new rim. Any
    suggestions if I do buy a new one. I just want something that can handle
    some rough road. Weight doesn't matter that much. I don't race just
    commute to work and take long rides. Price range would be helpful also.

    --

  7. Thanks for the help. If I remove the spoke and do a quick fix on the
    wheel will it hurt the rim or put me in danger. I was just thinking that
    I would straighten it out the best I could and ride it until more spokes
    break. Suggestions on this? Thanks in advance.

    --

  8. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 12:43:41 GMT, bcsst26

    may have said:

    I don't know a lot about bikes. Well I bought a new bike and road it for
    almost a year. Then I broke my first spoke. That was about 3 weeks ago.
    Well on the way to work today I broke another one. I was wandering if
    this is normal? I commute everyday to work and hate sending it to a shop
    because it takes to long to get it back especially when you commuted
    every day to work. Should I get it fixed again? Did the bike shop that I
    take it do a bad job replacing the old spoke? Should I by a new rim. Any
    suggestions if I do buy a new one. I just want something that can handle
    some rough road. Weight doesn't matter that much. I don't race just
    commute to work and take long rides. Price range would be helpful also.

    A Must Read article:

    http://www.sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html

    Pay particular attention to the section on Stress Relieving. I
    suspect that this is the step which was neglected with your current
    wheels.

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  9. Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the help. If I remove the spoke and do a quick fix on the
    wheel will it hurt the rim or put me in danger. I was just thinking that
    I would straighten it out the best I could and ride it until more spokes
    break. Suggestions on this? Thanks in advance.

    ouch! don't do that! i got sympathetic road rash just READING that!

    hg

  10. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 16:23:19 GMT, bcsst26

    may have said:

    Thanks for the help. If I remove the spoke and do a quick fix on the
    wheel will it hurt the rim or put me in danger. I was just thinking that
    I would straighten it out the best I could and ride it until more spokes
    break. Suggestions on this? Thanks in advance.

    Your mileage may vary, but...

    If this is a low-spoke-count wheel, like a 20 or 24-spoke, I'd get it
    respoked properly and completely. In my case, I'd do it myself. It's
    not rocket science, really.

    If it's a 32 or 36-spoke wheel, I'd try one intermediate step first.
    I'd replace the broken spoke, closely inspect the remaining ones for
    signs of trouble and replace any that seem suspicious, and then
    stress-relieve *all* of them. Even at this late date, with a year of
    usage, it's been my (admittedly limited) experience that this can keep
    a wheel in service. An embarassing number of years ago, I had a wheel
    that broke three spokes for no obvious reason in a period of a few
    months riding loaded on a paper route. After the third spoke let go,
    I took the wheel with me to the lbs to ask the guy there what I should
    do. He showed me how to use a lever to "prestretch all the spokes",
    after truing the wheel, and I did so. That bike went another 33 years
    on those spokes. (The *rim* didn't; it rotted and had to be replaced,
    but most of the spokes survived to the next one.) I didn't know until
    much later that what he called "prestretching" was really
    stress-relieving. (In fact, I didn't even recall the incident until
    this past couple of years, when someone else's question prompted it.)

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  11. I sympathize. Before I understood what makes bicycle wheels, I went through
    this routine many times, and it is indeed very frustrating.

    Take some time to learn how to build bike wheels. It really will save you a
    lot of stress, especially if you cycle-commute.

    If you properly tension and then stress relieve the spokes, they will
    probably go a long, long way without breaking. To stress relieve, squeeze
    pairs of parallel spokes together, hard.

    I'm leaving a lot out here. Do read Sheldon's wheelbuilding article and "The
    Bicycle Wheel" by Jobst Brandt.

    For the quick fix, you might tell us where you live, and someone here can
    likely suggest a good bike shop nearby, one that really can fix your wheel
    (if it's fixable).

    -Bruce-

    "bcsst26" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the help. If I remove the spoke and do a quick fix on the
    wheel will it hurt the rim or put me in danger. I was just thinking that
    I would straighten it out the best I could and ride it until more spokes
    break. Suggestions on this? Thanks in advance.

    --

  12. On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:52:30 GMT, Ron Hardin <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    Buy a spare bike, or a spare wheel. A spare bike needn't be very
    costly. You may find in addition that you prefer your cheap bike.

    Presumably something better than a Roadmaster Mt Fury, however. (That
    model is not the absolute worst I've seen, but it does a pretty good
    job of trying to get there.)

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  13. Werehatrack said:

    On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 14:52:30 GMT, Ron Hardin <[email hidden]>

    may have said:

    Buy a spare bike, or a spare wheel. A spare bike needn't be very
    costly. You may find in addition that you prefer your cheap bike.

    Presumably something better than a Roadmaster Mt Fury, however. (That
    model is not the absolute worst I've seen, but it does a pretty good
    job of trying to get there.)

    Maybe the reason we haven't heard from Carl Fogel is because his
    Roadmaster Mt Fury fell apart under him at high speed in heavy
    traffic...
    --
    Rick Onanian

  14. bcest-<< I don't know a lot about bikes. Well I bought a new bike and road it
    for
    almost a year. Then I broke my first spoke. That was about 3 weeks ago.
    Well on the way to work today I broke another one. I was wandering if
    this is normal? >><BR><BR>

    Not normal but after a year, a sign that the rim has been 'damaged' to the
    point of erratric tension somewhere...A new rim/spokes(maybe) is the solution.

    Peter Chisholm
    Vecchio's Bicicletteria
    1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535
    http://www.vecchios.com
    "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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