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  1. I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies. The
    hubs are new old stock. I don't think I am dealing with a corrosion
    problem as the grease is perfectly clean and the hubs have never been
    used or stored in a corrosive environment. I want to take off the
    cassette bodies to perform a swap of HG and UG bodies. I have the
    required 10 mm Allen wrench, but I can't seem to find an effective way
    to hold the hub in the vice. I am currently trying to hold the hub in
    the center with wooden pine blocks that are lined with inner tubes. The
    hub spins before I am able to apply sufficient torque to unscrew the
    retaining fastener. Please share any effective methods.

    --

  2. daveornee said:

    I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies.

    Lace it to a rim with a few spokes; hold the rim.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  3. daveornee said:

    I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies. The
    hubs are new old stock. I don't think I am dealing with a corrosion
    problem as the grease is perfectly clean and the hubs have never been
    used or stored in a corrosive environment. I want to take off the
    cassette bodies to perform a swap of HG and UG bodies. I have the
    required 10 mm Allen wrench, but I can't seem to find an effective way
    to hold the hub in the vice. I am currently trying to hold the hub in
    the center with wooden pine blocks that are lined with inner tubes.
    The hub spins before I am able to apply sufficient torque to unscrew
    the retaining fastener. Please share any effective methods.

    I did the same swap last autumn and had no such problems. The hub is built
    into a wheel and I simply held the wheel with my left had and wellied the
    socket wrench with my right. My hub was 14 years old at the time, had done
    thousands of miles with only regular bearing maintenance. Are you using a
    sockect wrench or a smaller allen key ? You probably know this but it is a
    regular right handed thread so turn anti clockwise to undo.

    I must confess I was expecting the job to be much harder than it was. My old
    body came off easily and the new one went on with no compatibility problems.
    I have not fitted a HG cassette yet but intend to do the 8 of 9 on 7 trick
    on this and my tourer (which will actually be 8 of 9 on 6).

    NB I have a used but servicable UG body on offer,

  4. daveornee said:

    I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies. The

    If you won't build them into wheels for this purpose (you could just
    build the wheel you'll eventually build anyway), maybe you can screw
    a piece of wood to the NDS with a thin screw in each hole. Or, a
    couple pieces of wood with cutouts for the inside of the hub,
    properly thick to screw both DS and NDS into...
    --
    Rick Onanian

  5. daveornee said:

    I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies. The
    hubs are new old stock. I don't think I am dealing with a corrosion
    problem as the grease is perfectly clean and the hubs have never been
    used or stored in a corrosive environment. I want to take off the
    cassette bodies to perform a swap of HG and UG bodies. I have the
    required 10 mm Allen wrench, but I can't seem to find an effective way
    to hold the hub in the vice. I am currently trying to hold the hub in
    the center with wooden pine blocks that are lined with inner tubes. The
    hub spins before I am able to apply sufficient torque to unscrew the
    retaining fastener. Please share any effective methods.

    Use about 6 spokes and lace the hub into a rim. Then use your 10 mm
    hex key.

  6. dvt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    daveornee said:

    I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies.

    Lace it to a rim with a few spokes; hold the rim.

    Ditto here. I did this a little while back when I was swapping
    cassette bodies between bare hubs. You need half as many spokes as a
    whole wheel- 18 spokes and a 36-hole rim in my case.

    Remember that you'll need the same thing to tighten the body on the
    hub.

    Jeff

  7. Jeff Wills said:

    dvt <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    daveornee said:

    I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies.

    Lace it to a rim with a few spokes; hold the rim.


    Ditto here. I did this a little while back when I was swapping cassette
    bodies between bare hubs. You need half as many spokes as a whole wheel-
    18 spokes and a 36-hole rim in my case.
    Remember that you'll need the same thing to tighten the body on the hub.
    Jeff

    I was trying to avoid the obvious. I even bought a special set of jaw
    covers with rounds in it. It came frome Sears and even has magnets in it
    to keep it on the jaws. However, even with this nice extra, I still
    couldn't get a good enough purchase to hold the hub in the vise. I
    finally gave up, built the wheel that was to receive the cassette body
    transplant, then partially laced the donor hub, and finally made the
    switch. It was easier than I thought and certainly made the vise routine
    look like "What were you thinking?" Thanks to all who put in their
    convincing words of experienced of advice. My old 7 speed carbon fiber
    bicycle is going to enjoy it's "new" HG cassette rear wheel.

    --

  8. On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 22:26:08 GMT, Paul Kopit <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Use about 6 spokes and lace the hub into a rim. Then use your 10 mm
    hex key.

    I've used as few as 8, but six ought to work also. Three on each
    flange spaced at 120 degrees ought to do it. No need to tension the
    spokes.

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

  9. I have started a collection of 7 cog freehubs because they are not
    making them anymore. Take some string and run it through the spoke
    holes and tie the hub down to something a piece of wood with two holes
    works great. You only need to use one spoke hole but one in each
    flange works better. I use a steel railroad tie plate with some
    newspaper between the hub and the steel. This does not damage the hub
    the stresses are not that great.

  10. Shimano 7 Sp. UniGlide? Are the cogs in good shape? What sizes?

    I may just buy some from you!

    My E-mail address is valid, if you want to right back :-3)

    - -

    "May you have the wind at your back.
    And a really low gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner
    http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

  11. On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:44:53 GMT, daveornee

    may have said:

    I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies. The
    hubs are new old stock. I don't think I am dealing with a corrosion
    problem as the grease is perfectly clean and the hubs have never been
    used or stored in a corrosive environment. I want to take off the
    cassette bodies to perform a swap of HG and UG bodies. I have the
    required 10 mm Allen wrench, but I can't seem to find an effective way
    to hold the hub in the vice. I am currently trying to hold the hub in
    the center with wooden pine blocks that are lined with inner tubes. The
    hub spins before I am able to apply sufficient torque to unscrew the
    retaining fastener. Please share any effective methods.

    Take the hub and the wrench (I assume here that it's a bit that fits
    on a ratchet) and run down to the nearest car repair shop. Ask them
    to use an impact wrench to undo the retainer for you. I've taken
    these out with a 3/8"-drive impact while holding the hub in my hand;
    no vise needed.

    --
    My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
    Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
    Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

  12. Chris Zacho The Wheelman said:

    Shimano 7 Sp. UniGlide? Are the cogs in good shape? What sizes?

    I may just buy some from you!

    My E-mail address is valid, if you want to right back :-3)

    You want UG Cassettes?
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/friction.html
    (bottom of page)

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  13. Werehatrack said:

    On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:44:53 GMT, daveornee

    may have said:

    I need an effective and non-damaging way to hold a couple of older
    Shimano 7 speed hubs so that I can wrench off the cassette bodies. The
    hubs are new old stock. I don't think I am dealing with a corrosion
    problem as the grease is perfectly clean and the hubs have never been
    used or stored in a corrosive environment. I want to take off the
    cassette bodies to perform a swap of HG and UG bodies. I have the
    required 10 mm Allen wrench, but I can't seem to find an effective way
    to hold the hub in the vice. I am currently trying to hold the hub in
    the center with wooden pine blocks that are lined with inner tubes. The
    hub spins before I am able to apply sufficient torque to unscrew the
    retaining fastener. Please share any effective methods.

    Build a half a wheel. Doesn't have to be good, accurate, fancy or even
    correct. You can use an old rim, spokes and nipples.

    --
    Skuke
    Reverse the domain name to send email

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