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  1. It really *is* very difficult to try to work out what will be right for
    you without trying it. Bikes have to fit their rider like clothes and
    shoes have to fit their wearers. I wouldn't recommend getting shoes
    mail-order unless you'd had several of the same make and model without
    trouble.

    I appreciate it's difficult to get out in your circumstances but think
    you might have to go to a shop.

    If you know any cyclists living nearby, they might be able to help, both
    by knowing what's available locally and by letting you try their bike to
    give some idea of sizing.

    I agree that you are probably too tall for most women's bikes. You'll
    probably be OK with a medium-sized men's bike. You need to make sure
    *you* can handle the controls and lift the machine, attach the tag-along
    etc. All these things are very individual.

    Where geogrphically are you based? Maybe one of us could meet you close
    to home to help.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

  2. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a good bike for me, I have looked at
    every online bike shop I can but am no nearer a decision to which make and
    model is most suitable.

    I won't be doing any road cycling only very good country paths, cycle paths
    and park rides. The bike has to be suitable to attach a child trailer or
    trail-a-long.

    The bike has to be under the £400 pound mark and preferable able to buy
    online as I don't drive and have a young child that won't tolerate hanging
    around a bike shop while I test drive every model.

    I have read http://www.myra-simon.com/bike/mtb-advice1.html after finding
    the URL while browsing this group but being technically illiterate I didn't
    find it easy to read. I know after reading it though that I would like a
    rigid bike without a hi-tensile steel frame.

    Where I got lost reading it was the section on buying a bike for a female, I
    couldn't follow it at all. Maybe someone in this group can help.

    I am 5'9 and my torso and legs are roughly the same length. After looking at
    womens bikes online they may be too small for me, the only plus point is
    that they come with special saddles for females, but I can easily buy a mens
    bike and just fit a new saddle?

    Can anyone recommend a suitable bike for me?

    Thanks in advance for any help you can offer

    Fran

  3. Purple said:

    The bike has to be under the £400 pound mark and preferable able to
    buy online as I don't drive and have a young child that won't
    tolerate hanging around a bike shop while I test drive every model.

    Just sitting on a few bikes in a shop and getting some advice in person
    will be a great help if actually test-riding them is impractical for
    whatever reason. I think I know a bit about bikes but I got the wrong
    size frame myself when I mail-ordered one. Sizing is a tricky business.

    ~PB

  4. in message <[email hidden]>, Purple

    (') said:

    I was wondering if anyone can recommend a good bike for me, I have
    looked at every online bike shop I can but am no nearer a decision to
    which make and model is most suitable.

    I won't be doing any road cycling only very good country paths, cycle
    paths and park rides. The bike has to be suitable to attach a child
    trailer or trail-a-long.

    The bike has to be under the £400 pound mark and preferable able to
    buy online as I don't drive and have a young child that won't tolerate
    hanging around a bike shop while I test drive every model.

    You don't actually need front suspension for the sort of riding you're
    suggesting, and you certainly don't need rear suspension. You also
    don't need disk brakes and at your price point shouldn't go for them.
    Since you are proposing to ride almost all off tarmac and to pull a
    child trailer low gearing would be a good thing, so you are looking at
    something towards the MTB end of the 'hybrid' continuum.

    Quoted message said:

    I am 5'9 and my torso and legs are roughly the same length. After
    looking at womens bikes online they may be too small for me, the only
    plus point is that they come with special saddles for females, but I
    can easily buy a mens bike and just fit a new saddle?

    Yes, you can. You ought to be able to get the shop supplying the bike to
    swap a womens saddle on at no extra cost - my partner rides Georgina
    Terry Liberator saddles on both her bikes, and swears by them; but
    saddles are pretty personal so be prepared to find you don't get on
    with the first one you try. You may also want to get the shop to swap
    the tyres which come with the bike for less knobbly ones, as the reason
    you want low gearing is to pull the trailer, not to tackle very muddy
    or rough tracks.

    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone recommend a suitable bike for me?

    Dawes, Specialized, Scott and Giant all produce reasonable quality hard
    tail mountain bikes at around the £400 mark. Edinburgh Bicycle Co-op
    also have some own-brands under this price and are good value for
    money.

    If you want a one model recommendation you wouldn't go far wrong with a
    Specialized Hardrock.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    Das Internet is nicht fuer gefingerclicken und giffengrabben... Ist
    nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das mausklicken sichtseeren
    keepen das bandwit-spewin hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und
    watchen das cursorblinken. -- quoted from the jargon file

  5. Purple said:

    I was wondering if anyone can recommend a good bike for me, I have looked at
    every online bike shop I can but am no nearer a decision to which make and
    model is most suitable.

    I won't be doing any road cycling only very good country paths, cycle paths
    and park rides. The bike has to be suitable to attach a child trailer or
    trail-a-long.

    The bike has to be under the £400 pound mark and preferable able to buy
    online as I don't drive and have a young child that won't tolerate hanging
    around a bike shop while I test drive every model.

    My wife has a Trek 7200 FX with rigid fork and suspension seat post.
    It's ideal for the type of riding you want to do, there is a women's
    model (which you may or may not want) and it's well within your price.
    A very practical bike and easy to ride.

    --
    Dave...

    Get a bicycle. You will not regret it. If you live. - Mark Twain

  6. Purple said:

    What would the front suspension be like on the Trek 7200 FX at =A3320? =


    Does

    Quoted message said:

    front suspension start to become reliable at that price?

    Not so much it's unreliable as just not doing anything very useful.=20
    It'll add to the weight and remove money from things like the frame and=20
    transmission. It would be good for soaking up big bumps, but I doubt=20
    you intend to take very many of those!
    If you have no realistic easy choice then front sus isn't going to be a=20
    huge issue at this price, but IMHO you'd do better without it for what=20
    you have in mind.

    Another good rigid general purpose bike is the Kona Smoke, you can get=20
    details from a Google. This seems to be in your price range, you're not =

    wasting money on suspension and with mudguards fitted you won't spray=20
    the trailer with goop either! Konaworld.uk.com has a dealer list, a=20
    couple of the general ones are in Nottingham.

    Pete.
    --=20
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  7. "Helen Deborah Vecht" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    It really *is* very difficult to try to work out what will be right for
    you without trying it. Bikes have to fit their rider like clothes and
    shoes have to fit their wearers. I wouldn't recommend getting shoes
    mail-order unless you'd had several of the same make and model without
    trouble.

    I appreciate it's difficult to get out in your circumstances but think
    you might have to go to a shop.

    If you know any cyclists living nearby, they might be able to help, both
    by knowing what's available locally and by letting you try their bike to
    give some idea of sizing.

    I agree that you are probably too tall for most women's bikes. You'll
    probably be OK with a medium-sized men's bike. You need to make sure
    *you* can handle the controls and lift the machine, attach the tag-along
    etc. All these things are very individual.

    Where geogrphically are you based? Maybe one of us could meet you close
    to home to help.

    --
    Helen D. Vecht: [email hidden]
    Edgware.

    Hi Helen

    I moved from North London (near you) to Nottinghamshire five weeks ago as my
    partner was transferred through work. But with him working 13 hour days six
    days a week with Sundays off it makes life very difficult as I can't get to
    bike shops during the week and most are closed on Sundays. I miss the seven
    day shopping week that I had in London!!

    Though I am getting out and meeting lots of people there isn't really anyone
    I can leave my daughter with for any length of time, especially as the bus
    into Nottingham is only hourly where I live and then once on the bus it
    takes another hour to get there, it is one fo those plodding country buses
    that everyone in cities make fun of!

    I have narrowed it down to a trek 7200 FX as pointed out to me by Dave Kahn
    or a Specialised HardRock which I has been reccommended to me in this group
    and I have also read elsewhere that it is the best rigid in my price range.

    My partner took my little girl out for lunch so I had time to ring round the
    few shops that were open today, I even rang as far afield as Derbyshire and
    only one shop stocked either of the bikes I am after. It was a shop in Derby
    who had one 7200 in my size except with front suspension.

    There is a large shop in Nottingham that I am going to phone tomorrow which
    according to their website stocks both bikes and a lot more besides. It is
    just a case of getting to the shop now.

    There are quite a few shops round here that are open on Sundays but they
    only stocked the very very low end of the market/budget bikes which aren't
    suitable.

    It was tempting to just shoot over to Derby today as my partner could have
    driven me there and then looked after our daughter but the bike they have in
    stock isn't exactly what I am looking for and they don't have any other
    suitable bikes which are suitable for me to compare with the Trek they have.

    What would the front suspension be like on the Trek 7200 FX at £320? Does
    front suspension start to become reliable at that price?

    Fran

  8. "Pete Biggs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Purple said:

    The bike has to be under the £400 pound mark and preferable able to
    buy online as I don't drive and have a young child that won't
    tolerate hanging around a bike shop while I test drive every model.

    Just sitting on a few bikes in a shop and getting some advice in person
    will be a great help if actually test-riding them is impractical for
    whatever reason. I think I know a bit about bikes but I got the wrong
    size frame myself when I mail-ordered one. Sizing is a tricky business.

    ~PB

    Hi Pete

    I know what you are saying is right and though if I order the wrong size
    through the net most online stores will exchange free of charge I will still
    have to fork out three times for P&P.

    My little girl is three and can not stand/sit still for mnore than two
    minutes now keep herself to herself. She is at the demanding stage and I
    know it will be nightmare if I have to take her along, Just going to the
    supermarket is an event I dread.

    There's a shop in Derby that has a bike that seems suitable so I'll go have
    a look next Sunday when my partner can look after our little girl for me

    Fran

  9. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Purple

    (') said:

    I was wondering if anyone can recommend a good bike for me, I have
    looked at every online bike shop I can but am no nearer a decision to
    which make and model is most suitable.

    I won't be doing any road cycling only very good country paths, cycle
    paths and park rides. The bike has to be suitable to attach a child
    trailer or trail-a-long.

    The bike has to be under the £400 pound mark and preferable able to
    buy online as I don't drive and have a young child that won't tolerate
    hanging around a bike shop while I test drive every model.

    You don't actually need front suspension for the sort of riding you're
    suggesting, and you certainly don't need rear suspension. You also
    don't need disk brakes and at your price point shouldn't go for them.
    Since you are proposing to ride almost all off tarmac and to pull a
    child trailer low gearing would be a good thing, so you are looking at
    something towards the MTB end of the 'hybrid' continuum.

    Quoted message said:

    I am 5'9 and my torso and legs are roughly the same length. After
    looking at womens bikes online they may be too small for me, the only
    plus point is that they come with special saddles for females, but I
    can easily buy a mens bike and just fit a new saddle?

    Yes, you can. You ought to be able to get the shop supplying the bike to
    swap a womens saddle on at no extra cost - my partner rides Georgina
    Terry Liberator saddles on both her bikes, and swears by them; but
    saddles are pretty personal so be prepared to find you don't get on
    with the first one you try. You may also want to get the shop to swap
    the tyres which come with the bike for less knobbly ones, as the reason
    you want low gearing is to pull the trailer, not to tackle very muddy
    or rough tracks.

    Quoted message said:

    Can anyone recommend a suitable bike for me?

    Dawes, Specialized, Scott and Giant all produce reasonable quality hard
    tail mountain bikes at around the £400 mark. Edinburgh Bicycle Co-op
    also have some own-brands under this price and are good value for
    money.

    If you want a one model recommendation you wouldn't go far wrong with a
    Specialized Hardrock.

    Hi Simon

    I would ideally like a Hardrock as aswell as your recommendation I have
    heard elsewhere that it is the best in my price range but I can only find
    one shop near me that stocks it and it is closed the only day I can get down
    there dammit!

    I take on board what you say and agree with you on both suspension, disk
    brake and gears which is why the Hardrock seems ideal.

    Fran

    Quoted message said:

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    Das Internet is nicht fuer gefingerclicken und giffengrabben... Ist
    nicht fuer gewerken bei das dumpkopfen. Das mausklicken sichtseeren
    keepen das bandwit-spewin hans in das pockets muss; relaxen und
    watchen das cursorblinken. -- quoted from the jargon file

  10. Purple said:


    Though I am getting out and meeting lots of people there isn't really anyone
    I can leave my daughter with for any length of time, especially as the bus
    into Nottingham is only hourly where I live and then once on the bus it
    takes another hour to get there, it is one fo those plodding country buses
    that everyone in cities make fun of!

    Ha. Reminds me of the last time I took a bus from my home village (as
    opposed to the village I live in now) into Cambridge. After an hour on
    the bus, stopping at every hamlet, farm and desolate cross roads, I
    looked out of the window only to realise that *I could still see my
    house*!

  11. On 4/7/04 3:36 pm, in article [email hidden],

    Purple said:

    My little girl is three and can not stand/sit still for mnore than two
    minutes now keep herself to herself. She is at the demanding stage and I
    know it will be nightmare if I have to take her along, Just going to the
    supermarket is an event I dread.

    My little ones loved a child seat on teh back of the bike.
    The Hamax (rebadged as Halfords own brand) or Rhode Gear ones are really
    good and well worth getting if you want to put your daughter on the back.

    Budget about 60-70 quid for a good child seat.. It's well worth it.

    ...d

  12. in message <[email hidden]>, Purple

    (') said:

    What would the front suspension be like on the Trek 7200 FX at £320?
    Does front suspension start to become reliable at that price?

    Unfortunately they aren't well known forks so I can't find out anything
    about them. Trek are not mickey-mouse bike manufacturers so they're
    unlikely to be really bad; but at this price point they're either
    elastomer or steel spring. If elastomer (rubber-like synthetic
    material), then the response of the suspension will vary with ambient
    temperature and deteriorate over time; if steel spring, it will be
    heavy. Elastomer is self damping; some cheap forks these days have both
    elastomers and steel springs, which can be a reasonable compromise. A
    sprung fork which does not have elastomer should have an oil filled
    damper which will require periodic servicing.

    The other problem with cheap forks is that the telescopic assemblies
    don't slide smoothly, but tend to be jerky and notchy. You can get some
    feel for this in the shop: as you lean your weight on them they should
    compress smoothly.

    Most cheap suspension forks are not adjustable. Suspension which is
    correctly set up for your weight should compress by about a quarter of
    its total travel when you sit on the bike. If it compresses much more
    than this then you are too heavy for it. The makers of almost all
    elastomer or steel sprung forks supply differently rated elastomers
    and/or springs for different weights of rider. The shop _should_ offer
    to fit the correct one for your weight - but nine times out of ten they
    don't because the time taken to strip a fork and replace the suspension
    element is a substantial chunk of the profit on a cheap bike. You
    should ask them about this.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ;; Sending your money to someone just because they've erected
    ;; a barrier of obscurity and secrets around the tools you
    ;; need to use your data does not help the economy or spur
    ;; innovation. - Waffle Iron Slashdot, June 16th, 2002

  13. On 4/7/04 10:35 pm, in article
    [email hidden], "Simon Brooke"

    Quoted message said:

    If elastomer (rubber-like synthetic
    material), then the response of the suspension will vary with ambient
    temperature and deteriorate over time;

    Completely non-existent at -10 Celsius.. but I found the forks ended up
    rusting solid before the elastomers gave out.

    ...d

  14. After lots of looking around online and much frustration my partner was
    given a surprise afternoon off work today so we went to FreeWheel in
    Nottingham. They had loads of bikes in stock and I tried the Trek 7210,
    Specialised Hardrock and Specialised Crossroads.

    In the end I felt most comfortable on the Crossroads, it seemed to suit me
    better than the other two. Even though it wasn't a female model they
    tinkered with it in their upstairs workshop while I waited and browsed
    downstairs.

    I am so pleased I made into a proper bike shop and it worked out for the
    best because the model I would probably have gone for online didn't suit me
    when I tried it and the most suitable model is one I hadn't considered
    looking at online. It also turns out that the frame size I would have chosen
    if I had bought online would have been too big for me.

    I also get a free service after four weeks and 10% off all purchases in the
    store until the service and then all following services are discounted which
    I think is really good and something else I wouldn't have got if I had
    bought online.

    Thankyou to all those who offered me advice it really helped make me
    understand the technical terms the assistant used and made me more confident
    about what I was looking for. I feel really comfortable and confident with
    this bike.

    Fran

  15. in message <[email hidden]>, Purple

    (') said:

    Thankyou to all those who offered me advice it really helped make me
    understand the technical terms the assistant used and made me more
    confident about what I was looking for. I feel really comfortable and
    confident with this bike.

    Great! I hope you'll have a lot of fun in it.

    My niece bought her first adult bike today, an EBC Coast. She too is
    extremely excited and pleased with it.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    See one nuclear war, you've seen them all.

  16. Purple said:

    In the end I felt most comfortable on the Crossroads, it seemed to suit me
    better than the other two. Even though it wasn't a female model they
    tinkered with it in their upstairs workshop while I waited and browsed
    downstairs.

    Nice one! It's worth noting that though the "women specific" thing has
    realised that women are often a different shape from men, the marketing
    departments have failed to realise that women are often a different
    shape to other women. Any WSD piece of kit will only work if the model
    the designers are working too are anything like the woman in question.
    And there are certainly cases where men will be better off with a WSD
    model, as well as women better off on notional men's kit.
    A female pal of mine has a WSD saddle with super-duper Body Geometry
    technology computer designed with reference to Real Anatomy. Sounds
    jolly impressive, but she thinks the traditional leather saddle on my
    folder is far more comfortable, and when that was designed women didn't
    wear trousers much, never mind ride bikes!

    Quoted message said:

    I also get a free service after four weeks and 10% off all purchases in the
    store until the service and then all following services are discounted which
    I think is really good and something else I wouldn't have got if I had
    bought online.

    Let's hear it for a good sounding LBS! If you're towing your moppet
    behind or they're on a childseat on the bike they'll probably /really/
    like mudguards, unless you think your moppet looks best with a brown
    stripe! IIRC the Crossraods doesn't have them as standard. SKS with
    mudflaps are the best, though there are perfectly adequate ones for less.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  17. Purple said:

    Also I have never used gears before. When I was riding ten years ago I set
    the gears to one setting and just left them there. Now I have front and back
    gears which are going to take some getting used to but I can't wait to get
    back out there practicing.

    The amount you have these days can be a bit bewildering at first, but
    Don't Panic! Think of gears as the one you're in, lower, and higher
    rather than trying to remember if you're in 13th or 14th or whatever.

    If your legs are windmilling around with hardly any tangible resistance
    you need a higher gear, if you think about standing up to move the
    pedals around you need lower (try and stay in the saddle: it's generally
    much better to change down a gear rather than stand up).

    To start with I'd put the front changer in the middle and just get the
    hang of the rear gears as that's where you make most of your changes.
    The front changer comes in handy for big hills and/or heavy loads like
    the trailer, where you may want the small/inner chainring, or for high
    speed where the bigger/outer ring is best.

    Many people, especially those who haven't been on a bike much, will tend
    to use higher gears than they'd be best off with, with legs moving
    around quite slowly. It's better for you and the bike to spin lower
    gears, so your feet should be moving around at a fair pace but not so
    fast you can't push any harder on the pedals.

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think I will be doing much cycling in wet mud

    Even cycling along a wet road after the rain's finished can throw up
    enough spray from a wheel to be an annoyance. Unless you're out for
    serious performance then mudguards really are a Very Good Idea IMHO.

    Quoted message said:

    I have waterproofs already but they are hiking/rambling waterproofs which
    are very very good quality but are quite bulky. Can anyone recommend any
    suitable clothing I might need so I can buy it before my 10% discount runs
    out?

    As long as you're not busting a gut your walking waterproofs will be a
    good start. What a lot of us have found is that any formally waterproof
    coat can get a bit sticky inside if you're cycling, so a lightweight
    windproof top is a very useful piece of kit. Most of them will keep a
    brief shower at bay and they're lighter, cheaper and more breathable
    than full waterproofs.
    On the legs, something stretchy that moves with you is very good, and
    most of these will be fairly comfy even if they get a bit wet and dry
    very fast too. I only wear overtrousers if it's sheeting it down and
    likely to stay that way. Ronhill Bikesters are very good as general
    cycling trousers: not only very comfy but they won't get caught and/or
    oiled in the chain either. Padded cycling shorts are very good on
    longer rides, or even on shorter ones if you can't get comfortable on
    your saddle, but they are a faff and a relatively expensive one at that
    so for short trips a lot of folk don't bother.

    Other things to spend your pennies on would be some luggage. Rucksacks
    on a bike are a Work Of Stan, as you can find out by trying alternatives
    such as panniers, bar bags, rack packs and saddlebags. Of course, the
    trailer will be a perfect place for stuff but if you're riding without
    it then somewhere to put things that doesn't hang off you makes riding
    more of a pleasure.

    Other accessories worth getting would be a multitool (you can do most
    things with a set of Allen keys on a modern bike), a couple of spare
    inner tubes and a puncture repair kit, a good pump, a serious lock and a
    good set of lights. With the possible exception of the inner tubes you
    Get What You Pay For on all of these (I think you realise that, judging
    from your choice of bike).

    Quoted message said:

    P.S. I am sure I recognise your signature from somewhere Pete, do you also
    post in uk.rec.walking?

    Yup. Or uk.rec.walking.totalnumptieswithattitudeaboutconservation as it
    appears to be the last week or so :-(

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  18. "Peter Clinch" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Purple said:

    In the end I felt most comfortable on the Crossroads, it seemed to suit


    me

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    better than the other two. Even though it wasn't a female model they
    tinkered with it in their upstairs workshop while I waited and browsed
    downstairs.

    Nice one! It's worth noting that though the "women specific" thing has
    realised that women are often a different shape from men, the marketing
    departments have failed to realise that women are often a different
    shape to other women. Any WSD piece of kit will only work if the model
    the designers are working too are anything like the woman in question.
    And there are certainly cases where men will be better off with a WSD
    model, as well as women better off on notional men's kit.
    A female pal of mine has a WSD saddle with super-duper Body Geometry
    technology computer designed with reference to Real Anatomy. Sounds
    jolly impressive, but she thinks the traditional leather saddle on my
    folder is far more comfortable, and when that was designed women didn't
    wear trousers much, never mind ride bikes!

    The shop assistant noted that my limbs are longer in proportion than most
    women and that a female frame would have been to short as my arms are quite
    long.

    They swapped the male saddle over to a gel saddle designed for women which I
    didn't find that comfy when I actually rode the bike at home but maybe I
    just need some more time for my body to get used to riding again.

    They said I could take a test ride before I bought the bike but I wasn't
    confident enough to do that as I haven't been on a bike in ten years. As it
    was it took me half an hour just to get on the saddle once I got home, in
    the store the assistant held the bike for me so it was easier to get on. All
    in all it took me an hour of falling off, falling over and generally
    spending more time on my bum than on the bike before I got the hang of
    riding again! But once I figured out how to get on the saddle and stay there
    it didn't take me long to get my confidence back.

    Also I have never used gears before. When I was riding ten years ago I set
    the gears to one setting and just left them there. Now I have front and back
    gears which are going to take some getting used to but I can't wait to get
    back out there practicing.

    We also bought a child trailer from the shop which (thankfully) my little
    girl loves! We are going to try out the bike and trailer properly this
    afternoon on tarmac as opposed to grass. I only used the bike on grass
    yesterday as it made for a softer landing for me! :o)

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    I also get a free service after four weeks and 10% off all purchases in


    the

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    store until the service and then all following services are discounted


    which

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    I think is really good and something else I wouldn't have got if I had
    bought online.

    Let's hear it for a good sounding LBS! If you're towing your moppet
    behind or they're on a childseat on the bike they'll probably /really/
    like mudguards, unless you think your moppet looks best with a brown
    stripe! IIRC the Crossraods doesn't have them as standard. SKS with
    mudflaps are the best, though there are perfectly adequate ones for less.

    Valid point re mudguards

    The shop assistant gave me lots of catalogues to read at home and choose all
    the different accessories I would like to be fitted while the bike is being
    serviced. Even though the service is in four weeks time, I will have to book
    next week as they are booked up three weeks in advance!

    I don't think I will be doing much cycling in wet mud but my little girl
    loves kicking a ball around even when it is almost storm like (she's
    fearless!) so I can certainly see myself out in the rain on the bike.

    I have waterproofs already but they are hiking/rambling waterproofs which
    are very very good quality but are quite bulky. Can anyone recommend any
    suitable clothing I might need so I can buy it before my 10% discount runs
    out?

    If anyone lives in or near Nottingham I can certainly recommend Freewheel in
    GooseGate, I am really pleased with the service they offered me and they
    were very knowledgeable and keen riders themselves

    Fran

    P.S. I am sure I recognise your signature from somewhere Pete, do you also
    post in uk.rec.walking?

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    Pete.
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    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  19. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Purple

    (') said:

    Thankyou to all those who offered me advice it really helped make me
    understand the technical terms the assistant used and made me more
    confident about what I was looking for. I feel really comfortable and
    confident with this bike.

    Great! I hope you'll have a lot of fun in it.

    My niece bought her first adult bike today, an EBC Coast. She too is
    extremely excited and pleased with it.

    I need to buy a bike for my niece. Her mother has set a budget of about
    80 pounds, since that's what the Walmart bike she had in the US cost.
    I don't think she's going to be quite so extremely excited and pleased.

    (Yes, I know, look for something second hand. I have a plan....)

  20. Purple said:

    having to pull the trailer aswell. Downhill was a scream though. I need to
    to figure out how to slow myself going down hills using the gears instead of
    using the brakes to do it as I will probably wear them out very fast.

    That isn't going to work: engine braking works in a car as the driven
    wheels try to drive the engine if you're in gear and freewheeling, but
    the freewheel on a bike which allows the pedals to stop while the bike
    carries on means this won't work[1].
    You'll have to stick with the brakes.

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    hmm changing tyres is something I won't be able to do! Isn't there a two
    wheel equivalent of the AA? ;o)

    I know there's one near York, I doubt he covers Nottingham though!

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    I am going to have to learn how to change
    tyres, but for some reason just the thought of it fills me with dread as I
    completely technically dyslexic and am no good at all at thigs like that.

    It's pretty easy. Taking the wheel off is very easy as you've probably
    got Quick Release skewers. All you have to do is flip the lever, unhook
    the brake and out it pops.
    To remove the tyre, insert a couple of tyre levers, slide around and,
    errrr, that's it. You'd have to be worse than technically dyslexic to
    have trouble once someone shows you how. Just apply the "can-do"
    attitude you've shown to riding to basic maintenance and you'll be there
    PDQ.

    Pete.

    [1] you can get a "fixed gear" which allows you to brake by pushing back
    on the pedals. But you probably don't want one of those as you /cannot/
    freewheel on one!
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

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