first 200km audax

"davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done an imperial

century-and-a-

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bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble managing the extra
20-25? miles but the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it will be
more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

d.

*it was billed as 100 miles but my computer showed nearer 106 miles
at the end.

Good luck - don't forget your rain gear!

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davek said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done an imperial century-and-a-
bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble managing the extra
20-25? miles but the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very
Long Way...
I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it will be
more like 12.
Wish me luck, folks. Ta.
d.
*it was billed as 100 miles but my computer showed nearer 106 miles
at the end.

All the best Dave.

I'm sure you know all this but go at a steady pace (maybe a bit less
than for your century) and get plenty to eat and drink.

Which one is it ?

Ian

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davek said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done an imperial
century-and-a- bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble
managing the extra 20-25? miles but the more I think about it the
more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it will be
more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

d.

*it was billed as 100 miles but my computer showed nearer 106 miles
at the end.

Look at it as a series of smaller rides. Good luck.

Is it the Canterbury one?

davek said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done an imperial
century-and-a- bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble
managing the extra 20-25? miles but the more I think about it the
more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it will be
more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

d.

*it was billed as 100 miles but my computer showed nearer 106 miles
at the end.

I'm doing a looooong ride tomorrow, not an Audax but still 200km

Simon Mason:

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Good luck -

thanks

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don't forget your rain gear!

*grumble* what happened to summer?

d.

wheelsgoround:

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All the best Dave.

thanks

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Which one is it ?

The Canterbury "Kent Corners" 202km. Heads from Canterbury west a bit in the
direction of Maidstone then down to Rye. Then it's back across country to
Westgate (near Margate) and finally along the coast back to Canterbury. It's
a fairly flat route but could be interesting going across Romney Marsh
depending which way the wind is blowing.

d.

Simonb:

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Look at it as a series of smaller rides. Good luck.

Cheers.

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Is it the Canterbury one?

That's the fella. Mostly familiar roads but should be fun anyway, as long as
the weather holds out.

d.

davek <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done an imperial century-and-a-
bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble managing the extra
20-25? miles but the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it will be
more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

Good luck, would it be the Canterbury one by any chance? never done it
but done several 2/300's from the other direction, as long as the wind
is not too bad you'll be fine, fairly rolling roads and usually a good
crowd; the Invicta was my first 200, the last 40 was testing, your
legs seem to know when you've done 100m ;-)

"davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done an imperial

century-and-a-

Quoted message said:

bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble managing the extra
20-25? miles but the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it will be
more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

Good luck. Did my first one last weekend. It's a great feeling to complete
one - well worth the pain.

tony R.

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All the best Dave.

Seconded...

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I'm sure you know all this but go at a steady pace (maybe a bit less
than for your century) and get plenty to eat and drink.

Interesting thought. When I went out to do a fifty miler earlier this
week, I told myself stern things about going steady and eating
regularly. I then went out and did the first eight miles at higher
speed than I've done that distance in five years, the first twenty-five
miles at a higher average than I've done ten in the past five years.
Over the whole distance I did 13.1, which was better than the 12.5 I'd
targeted. I had a bowl of cereal before I set out, and bought a pie
after eight miles but found I couldn't eat all of it, ate a cereal bar
at thirty miles, and... that's it. And at the end apart from sore feet
(over-tight shoes) I felt good for another twenty.

I appreciate that 200 kilometres is a lot more than fifty miles.

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"davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I'll be doing my first 200km audax tomorrow. Having done an imperial

century-and-a-

Quoted message said:

bit* recently, I reckon I won't have too much trouble managing the extra
20-25? miles but the more I think about it the more it seems like A Very
Long Way...

I'm aiming to get round in about ten hours but I expect it will be
more like 12.

Wish me luck, folks. Ta.

How did you get on? looks like you had the weather. Battle and back in
2 weeks, I'm entering the Sporting one not the Grimpeur.

Simon Brooke:

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Over the whole distance I did 13.1, which was better than the 12.5 I'd
targeted. ... And at the end apart from sore feet
(over-tight shoes) I felt good for another twenty.

Yup, I found exactly the same yesterday. I really made an effort to eat and
drink plenty along the way, and I felt so much better at the end than I did
at the end of the 100 miler I did a month ago - and was able to maintain a
steady-but-decent pace the whole way.

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I appreciate that 200 kilometres is a lot more than fifty miles.

Only in the mind! Apply the eating-an-elephant principle and it doesn't seem
nearly so far. Though I must say, based on yesterday's experience, I'm going
to attempt a couple more 200s before I even begin to contemplate a 300...

d.

MartinM:

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How did you get on? looks like you had the weather.

Absolutely fantastic! Weather held out nicely - the only difficult stretch,
weather-wise, was towards the end where the route took us along the coast,
head-on into the teeth of a "stiff sea breeze". Apart from that, the wind
was not nearly as much of a factor as weather reports had led me to fear.
And it remained sunny for most of the day - just got a few spots of rain
later on, but nothing you could even call a shower.

I set myself a target time of 10 hours. Set off at 8am and crossed the
finish line at about 6.10pm, so I think I paced it pretty much perfectly.
The route was divided into 'stages' so that made it easier to break down
into digestible chunks, and I set target times for each stage that I
achieved in every case - with enough time to spare to allow myself decent
rest/food breaks. I would have arrived back even sooner except that I got
lost a couple of times en route and ended up riding about an extra 15km! (I
didn't realise at the time just how much extra I'd done because my computer
records miles.)

When I did the 100 miles a month or so ago, I was more or less finished by
about 70 miles and it was a major struggle to get to the end. Yesterday, I
still enough left in the tank at the end to ride the 8 1/2 miles home
(although it was a struggle, because I had mentally 'finished' the ride
already and it felt like my body had taken that mental signal was trying to
shut itself down).

There are two main differences between the rides: first, I was riding on my
own for most of the time so was able to set my own pace - I did tag along
with other riders at various stages but whenever it started to feel like
they were going to fast for me I just dropped off and let them get on with
it. The second major difference is that I paid a lot more attention to
eating and drinking - got my water bottle filled up at every opportunity and
even made a few extra unscheduled stops for refills, just to make sure that
I never ran out of something to drink.

Getting lost was a nuisance. The first time it wasn't my fault - I had got
in with a bunch of riders and was just following them. Big mistake. Then,
after getting me lost, the sods dropped me. Pah! I managed to find the route
again, but then lost it again due to missing a signpost. Fortunately, I was
quite close to a checkpoint this time and managed to find my way back
easily - at the checkpoint I met several other people who said they had
missed the signpost too (I suspect it was the signpost that was missing), so
at least it wasn't only me.

In total, yesterday, including riding to the start and finish, plus detours,
I rode about 153 miles (246km), which is the furthest I have ever ridden in
a single day by a huge margin. My shins are a bit sore today and my backside
is feeling a little tender, but apart from that I feel absolutely fine -
could quite happily go out for a 'recovery' ride later. It helps that I was
in bed and asleep by 9pm...

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Battle and back in
2 weeks, I'm entering the Sporting one not the Grimpeur.

Best of luck with that. It starts in Croydon, doesn't it... Hmmm... I could
conceivably do that one myself. If the wife lets me.

Talking of grimpeurs, I'm sure yesterday's ride should qualify for AAA
points - a lot of it was fairly flat, there was a total of 1707m climbing
over the course, including some pretty serious uphill bits coming out of
Folkestone. Must look this one up in the AUK handbook.

d.

davek said:

Only in the mind! Apply the eating-an-elephant principle and it doesn't seem
nearly so far. Though I must say, based on yesterday's experience, I'm going
to attempt a couple more 200s before I even begin to contemplate a 300...

I wouldn't worry too much about more 200s first. I did a 350 from cold
(London to York) and found life didn't get any harder past the 150km mark, in
fact it seemed to get better later on as the goal got closer. The main
difference is its more like eating three elephants and eating that middle
elephant when you already know what eating one is like and knowing you've
still go another to go when you've finished the second can be a bit daunting.

Tony

Fantastic, Dave. Well done. Sounds like you had a great day.

When's the 300? :-)

As far as AAA points are concerned, you need a minimum of about 1400m
climing per 100km to qualify for any points. Even then, it's up to the
organiser whether or not the event is registered for AAA. Regardless of
that, 1707m is still a lot of hill.

Best of luck with the next one.

Ian

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On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:20:47 +0100, "Tony Raven"
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The main difference is its more like eating three elephants

And here's a man with the experience to back that up:
<url:http://www.rathergood.com/elephants/>

Guy
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Just zis Guy said:

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:20:47 +0100, "Tony Raven"
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The main difference is its more like eating three elephants

And here's a man with the experience to back that up:
<url:http://www.rathergood.com/elephants/>

Roll up, roll up, get your elephants here, three for a tenor

Tony

PS Where do you find this stuff?

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:36:49 +0100, "Tony Raven"
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Where do you find this stuff?

I dunno, really. Mainly from friends, I think. Here are some other
classics:

http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com
http://www.b3ta.com
http://tv.cream.org

Guy
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"davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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MartinM:

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How did you get on? looks like you had the weather.

Absolutely fantastic! Weather held out nicely - the only difficult stretch,
weather-wise, was towards the end where the route took us along the coast,
head-on into the teeth of a "stiff sea breeze". Apart from that, the wind
was not nearly as much of a factor as weather reports had led me to fear.
And it remained sunny for most of the day - just got a few spots of rain
later on, but nothing you could even call a shower.

I set myself a target time of 10 hours. Set off at 8am and crossed the
finish line at about 6.10pm, so I think I paced it pretty much perfectly.
The route was divided into 'stages' so that made it easier to break down
into digestible chunks, and I set target times for each stage that I
achieved in every case - with enough time to spare to allow myself decent
rest/food breaks. I would have arrived back even sooner except that I got
lost a couple of times en route and ended up riding about an extra 15km! (I
didn't realise at the time just how much extra I'd done because my computer
records miles.)

When I did the 100 miles a month or so ago, I was more or less finished by
about 70 miles and it was a major struggle to get to the end. Yesterday, I
still enough left in the tank at the end to ride the 8 1/2 miles home
(although it was a struggle, because I had mentally 'finished' the ride
already and it felt like my body had taken that mental signal was trying to
shut itself down).

There are two main differences between the rides: first, I was riding on my
own for most of the time so was able to set my own pace - I did tag along
with other riders at various stages but whenever it started to feel like
they were going to fast for me I just dropped off and let them get on with
it. The second major difference is that I paid a lot more attention to
eating and drinking - got my water bottle filled up at every opportunity and
even made a few extra unscheduled stops for refills, just to make sure that
I never ran out of something to drink.

Getting lost was a nuisance. The first time it wasn't my fault - I had got
in with a bunch of riders and was just following them. Big mistake. Then,
after getting me lost, the sods dropped me. Pah! I managed to find the route
again, but then lost it again due to missing a signpost. Fortunately, I was
quite close to a checkpoint this time and managed to find my way back
easily - at the checkpoint I met several other people who said they had
missed the signpost too (I suspect it was the signpost that was missing), so
at least it wasn't only me.

In total, yesterday, including riding to the start and finish, plus detours,
I rode about 153 miles (246km), which is the furthest I have ever ridden in
a single day by a huge margin. My shins are a bit sore today and my backside
is feeling a little tender, but apart from that I feel absolutely fine -
could quite happily go out for a 'recovery' ride later. It helps that I was
in bed and asleep by 9pm...

Quoted message said:

Battle and back in
2 weeks, I'm entering the Sporting one not the Grimpeur.

Best of luck with that. It starts in Croydon, doesn't it... Hmmm... I could
conceivably do that one myself. If the wife lets me.

Go for it, I've just printed out my form

And Well done; sounds like you are hooked, an SR and PBP beckons ;-)