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  1. Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see Cannondale doing a one
    (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel Paulissen) in the mens' cross country.
    Because I'd missed the fact that last nights programme started twenty
    minutes earlier than Sunday's I missed the womens cross-country.

    Cedric Gracia, also on Cannondale, was either second or third in the
    men's downhill (I forget which and I can't find a website to confirm) -
    however I don't feel so excited about that because it isn't really
    cycling if you get a cable car to do the hard work.

    I think the guy who won the four-cross was on a Nicolai but I didn't see
    the bike long enough to be really sure.

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  2. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see Cannondale doing a one
    (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel Paulissen) in the mens' cross country.
    Because I'd missed the fact that last nights programme started twenty

    On telly? Oh, bum, missed that altogether. Is there more coverage still to
    come? Which channel? When?

    Rich

  3. in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Goodman

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    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see Cannondale doing a
    one (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel Paulissen) in the mens' cross
    country. Because I'd missed the fact that last nights programme
    started twenty

    On telly? Oh, bum, missed that altogether. Is there more coverage
    still to
    come? Which channel? When?

    BBC2 Scotland, and no, you've missed it. It was extremely well done, in
    my opinion. Clearly not very expensively produced, and with a little
    bit of acknowledgement of a non-biking audience - not much technicality
    and apart from Honda no brand names got mentioned (although the
    commentators did comment on the Lefties on the winning XC bikes). There
    was some helicopter overhead coverage which worked well for the top of
    the downhill and for good sections of the XC, and a lot of trackside
    cameras at different points on the track - some obviously hand-held.
    Although we only got coverage of the top few downhillers runs and of
    that only about a minute and a half out of each (four and a bit minute)
    run, we got about fifteen minutes coverage of the Mens' Crosscountry
    (and, as I switched on twenty minutes after last night's program had
    started and the Womens' XC coverage was just finishing) presumably
    fifteen minutes of the Womens' XC as well.

    The anchor was a rather gushing woman I didn't recognise, who did an
    OK-ish job. The commentary teams consisted of one experienced TV sports
    commentator and one experienced cyclist, and this worked well (wasn't
    the same commentary team for all events). The commentators had done
    their homework and were able to give bits of background on each rider,
    and the cyclist was able to comment on things like lines and
    technicalities. In the introduction to the downhill programme the
    cyclist member of the commentator team did a run down the course
    himself with a helmet camera and described it as he experienced it,
    which was good watching.

    The interviews, although quite brief, were quite good too, and it was
    interesting to see the Irish chap from the UCI, and also the Sports
    Minister, being interviewed. The implication from both interviews is
    that we would see more high quality mountain bike competition in
    Scotland and that there would be more promotion of it - the guy from
    the UCI was extremely complimentary about the organisation of the
    event, and about the crowds, which were apparently bigger (more than
    10,000 - 15,000 got mentioned on last night's programme) than are
    common at cycling events.

    Personally I'd have liked to see much more about the bikes - the only
    one we saw in much detail was the much-hyped Honda[1] (Greg Minnaar)
    which won the Mens' Downhill. However all in all it was good television
    - one hour forty minutes in all - which for a general audience I think
    would have been at least as interesting as 'Ski Sunday', which, in
    format, it very much resembled.

    I personally didn't go much for the four-cross event - too short to be
    interesting, I thought, although tactics were interesting (that Steve
    Peat is a maniac - but a very capable maniac). The downhill probably
    made the best television as television, although for me the XC was the
    best bit. And what was really good about it, for me, was watching the
    guys on the course on bikes not that different from mine and knowing
    that in the immortal words 'I could do that' - not fast enough to
    compete with those guys, of course, but there was nothing on the XC
    course which looked technically beyond me.

    Worth staying up late for.

    [1] This bike has a bottom bracket gearbox of precisely the type I've
    been suggesting for some time. However, because it's not a URT it has a
    fairly complex chain-line which must cost a bit in efficiency.

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  4. "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    BBC2 Scotland, and no, you've missed it. It was extremely well done, in
    my opinion. Clearly not very expensively produced, and with a little
    bit of acknowledgement of a non-biking audience - not much technicality
    and apart from Honda no brand names got mentioned (although the
    commentators did comment on the Lefties on the winning XC bikes). There
    was some helicopter overhead coverage which worked well for the top of
    the downhill and for good sections of the XC, and a lot of trackside
    cameras at different points on the track - some obviously hand-held.

    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    However all in all it was good television
    - one hour forty minutes in all - which for a general audience I think
    would have been at least as interesting as 'Ski Sunday', which, in
    format, it very much resembled.


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Worth staying up late for.

    Sounds like excellent coverage. I can see you're only trying to make me
    feel jealous 😉

    Quoted message said:

    This bike has a bottom bracket gearbox of precisely the type I've
    been suggesting for some time. However, because it's not a URT it has a
    fairly complex chain-line which must cost a bit in efficiency.

    --

    Ah, that would be this one then:
    http://img15.photobucket.com/albums/v45/Sylvain/1%20Fort%20Bill%20people%20a
    nd%20bikes/cbikes12honda.jpg
    Mmm. I saw some of your postings about bb gearboxes on rbt. Now that would
    be an interesting toy to play with.

    Rich

  5. Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see Cannondale doing a one
    (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel Paulissen) in the mens' cross country.
    Because I'd missed the fact that last nights programme started twenty
    minutes earlier than Sunday's I missed the womens cross-country.

    Cedric Gracia, also on Cannondale, was either second or third in the
    men's downhill (I forget which and I can't find a website to confirm) -
    however I don't feel so excited about that because it isn't really
    cycling if you get a cable car to do the hard work.

    Wish there was a cable car where I go downhill racing... it's all push back
    to the top. And before you say "ride it", it really is too steep and a bike
    with 38:11-26 gearing & 170 cranks that weighs 20kilos is a real bugger to
    ride up hill. I use a XC bike for that ;o)

    As a sport, I'd say it's more about sprint/strength than the more
    traditional cycling and it's focus on stamina, hence the fact that Mr Garcia
    enjoys a beer or three between each days racing, there's not such a focus on
    fitness, although it's getting more competetive.
    One of the real benefits of it is that at the moment it's quite fashionable
    for kids to get a tough bike and take it downhill, meaning that they're
    getting out and actually exercising, and on a bike! so it's good for that...

    Of course I'm happy to take all the abuse about DH not being proper
    biking... or indeed will answer any sensible questions posed.

    AndyC

    Aston Hill regular.

  6. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, Richard Goodman

    (') said:

    "Simon Brooke" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, on t'telly last night, it was nice to see Cannondale doing a
    one (Cristophe Sausser) two (Roel Paulissen) in the mens' cross
    country. Because I'd missed the fact that last nights programme
    started twenty

    On telly? Oh, bum, missed that altogether. Is there more coverage
    still to
    come? Which channel? When?

    BBC2 Scotland, and no, you've missed it.

    We'll all be rushing for a Sky 'free to view' setup now.
    They brag they have more TV channels than Freeview, but mostly
    they seem to be all the regional variations of the main BBC terrestrial
    channels.

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