Hybrid tyre choice

DRS said:

My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The closest I ever
come to being off-road is the gravel bike path around Albert Park Lake. I
see that road tyres go down as far as 700x20, although I don't think I've
seen a reference to a hybrid with narrower than 700x28. How narrow
could/should I realistically go? What specific brands/models would people
recommend?

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It's probably down to personal preference for you.

If you're frame can take 700Cx38, then it can take
anything smaller than 38 I assume.

THe big difference will probably be comfort.

I just put ~28mm slicks on my MTB and it's about as
comfy as my road bike now. But it goes a lot quicker
than it did before 🙂

BTW, why do you want narrower tyres?

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Nick

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DRS said:

My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The
closest I ever come to being off-road is the gravel bike path around
Albert Park Lake. I see that road tyres go down as far as 700x20,
although I don't think I've seen a reference to a hybrid with
narrower than 700x28. How narrow could/should I realistically go?
What specific brands/models would people recommend?

It's probably down to personal preference for you.

If you're frame can take 700Cx38, then it can take
anything smaller than 38 I assume.

I've been reading some more and it's not so much about the frame as the
width of the rim. See http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html#width.

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THe big difference will probably be comfort.

I just put ~28mm slicks on my MTB and it's about as
comfy as my road bike now. But it goes a lot quicker
than it did before 🙂

BTW, why do you want narrower tyres?

Because I want the higher pressures and reduced rolling resistance of
narrower tyres. The ones that came with the bike are Chin Shen, so they're
[censored] anyway, and run a recommended 50-75psi.

I was thinking about something along the lines of the Michelin Dynamic
semi-slick in a 700-28. See
http://cycleus.webmichelin.com/tires/dynamic.htm. Minimal sniping and not
too expensive (street price is around $29), but I'm open to suggestions.

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
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DRS said:

My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The
closest I ever come to being off-road is the gravel bike path around
Albert Park Lake. I see that road tyres go down as far as 700x20,
although I don't think I've seen a reference to a hybrid with
narrower than 700x28. How narrow could/should I realistically go?
What specific brands/models would people recommend?

It's probably down to personal preference for you.

If you're frame can take 700Cx38, then it can take
anything smaller than 38 I assume.

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I've been reading some more and it's not so much about the frame as the
width of the rim. See http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tire_sizing.html#width.

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THe big difference will probably be comfort.

I just put ~28mm slicks on my MTB and it's about as
comfy as my road bike now. But it goes a lot quicker
than it did before 🙂

BTW, why do you want narrower tyres?

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Because I want the higher pressures and reduced rolling resistance of
narrower tyres. The ones that came with the bike are Chin Shen, so they're
[censored] anyway, and run a recommended 50-75psi.

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I was thinking about something along the lines of the Michelin Dynamic
semi-slick in a 700-28. See
http://cycleus.webmichelin.com/tires/dynamic.htm. Minimal sniping and not
too expensive (street price is around $29), but I'm open to suggestions.

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The Michelin looks fine. Conti also make the SportContact in a 700c 28mm, but
that's around $40 each.

Don't forget, you may need smaller tubes for these tyres. Check the size
on your current tubes to see if they'll be ok.

Oh...and you may need a new pump to get close to 100psi 🙂

--
Nick

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DRS said:

My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The
closest I ever come to being off-road is the gravel bike path around
Albert Park Lake.

Then why did you buy a pathetic Hybrid? Why not just a Roadie?

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DRS <[email hidden]> wrote:
> My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The
> closest I ever come to being off-road is the gravel bike path
> around Albert Park Lake.

Then why did you buy a pathetic Hybrid? Why not just a Roadie?

Have you always been an [censored] or did you take lessons?

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

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I was thinking about something along the lines of the Michelin
Dynamic semi-slick in a 700-28. See
http://cycleus.webmichelin.com/tires/dynamic.htm. Minimal sniping
and not too expensive (street price is around $29), but I'm open to
suggestions.

The Michelin looks fine. Conti also make the SportContact in a 700c
28mm, but that's around $40 each.

I'm having trouble finding that one. Google keeps bringing up car tyre
links. Do you have a link?

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Don't forget, you may need smaller tubes for these tyres. Check the
size
on your current tubes to see if they'll be ok.

OK.

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Oh...and you may need a new pump to get close to 100psi 🙂

My Blackburn Airstick is supposed to be good for 160+psi. Mind you, my arm
will probably drop off before it gets there.

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

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> DRS <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The
>> closest I ever come to being off-road is the gravel bike path
>> around Albert Park Lake.

Then why did you buy a pathetic Hybrid? Why not just a Roadie?

Have you always been an [censored] or did you take lessons?

Buy a Hybrid. Ya get the worst of both worlds! Once you own one you too can
ask pathetic questions on Usenet!

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The Michelin looks fine. Conti also make the SportContact in a 700c
28mm, but that's around $40 each.

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I'm having trouble finding that one. Google keeps bringing up car tyre
links. Do you have a link?

Here it is. I bought the 26" ones, so I don't know if
the 700c are available easily here. I expect they are.

http://tinyurl.com/ysgnu

Cheers.
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Buy a Hybrid. Ya get the worst of both worlds! Once you own one you
too can ask pathetic questions on Usenet!

PLONK!

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barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

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The Michelin looks fine. Conti also make the SportContact in a 700c
28mm, but that's around $40 each.

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I'm having trouble finding that one. Google keeps bringing up car
tyre links. Do you have a link?

Here it is. I bought the 26" ones, so I don't know if
the 700c are available easily here. I expect they are.

http://tinyurl.com/ysgnu

Thanks, but unless I'm misreading the chart the only two 700 (622) options
are 32 and 37.

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"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of bloody,
barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

Drs said:

My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The closest I
ever come to being off-road is the gravel bike path around Albert Park
Lake. I see that road tyres go down as far as 700x20, although I don't
think I've seen a reference to a hybrid with narrower than 700x28. How
narrow could/should I realistically go? What specific brands/models
would people recommend?

]http://www.contitires.com/[/url

I recomend the "Top Touring 2000". They come in 700 x 28 & are rated a
85 psi. For something faster but narrower the "Sport 1000" is rated t
120 psi & comes in 700 x 25 or 28

To all the Hybrid Haters "Get over yourselves". It's the "comfort bikes
sold as Hybrids causing your confusion

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Drs said:

My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The closest I
ever come to being off-road is the gravel bike path around Albert Park
Lake. I see that road tyres go down as far as 700x20, although I don't
think I've seen a reference to a hybrid with narrower than 700x28. How
narrow could/should I realistically go? What specific brands/models
would people recommend?

]http://www.contitires.com/[/url

I recomend the "Top Touring 2000". They come in 700 x 28 & are rated a
85 psi. For something faster but narrower the "Sport 1000" is rated t
120 psi & comes in 700 x 25 or 28

To all the Hybrid Haters "Get over yourselves". It's the "comfort bikes
sold as Hybrids causing your confusion

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> The Michelin looks fine. Conti also make the SportContact in a 700c
> 28mm, but that's around $40 each.

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I'm having trouble finding that one. Google keeps bringing up car
tyre links. Do you have a link?

Here it is. I bought the 26" ones, so I don't know if
the 700c are available easily here. I expect they are.

http://tinyurl.com/ysgnu

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Thanks, but unless I'm misreading the chart the only two 700 (622) options
are 32 and 37.

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Sorry that was my mistake earlier. I've got the 32-559s and they're
great.

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Nick

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My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The closest I ever
come to being off-road is the gravel bike path around Albert Park Lake. I
see that road tyres go down as far as 700x20, although I don't think I've
seen a reference to a hybrid with narrower than 700x28. How narrow
could/should I realistically go? What specific brands/models would people
recommend?

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I have a shogun Metro and I use IRC Road Winner II 700C X 28 tyres.
They are only marginally wider than the rim and seem to operate
without problems. I would be reluctant to go any narrower.

John Dwyer.

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http://www.contitires.com

I recomend the "Top Touring 2000". They come in 700 x 28 & are rated
at 85 psi. For something faster but narrower the "Sport 1000" is
rated to 120 psi & comes in 700 x 25 or 28.

The Sport 1000 is even cheaper than the Michelin Dynamic but doesn't get
very good ratings from Contintal themselves. The Ultra Gatorskin looks
seriously nice at around $45.

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To all the Hybrid Haters "Get over yourselves". It's the "comfort
bikes" sold as Hybrids causing your confusion.

I thought hybrids and "comfort" bikes were the same.

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"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of bloody,
barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

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I have a shogun Metro and I use IRC Road Winner II 700C X 28 tyres.
They are only marginally wider than the rim and seem to operate
without problems. I would be reluctant to go any narrower.

I have yet to establish the exact width of my rims but I suspect I'd be in
the same situation, with 28 being the narrowest practical width. In any
event, the IRC Road Winner II 700x28 is seriously light at 260g! How well
do they wear?

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"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of bloody,
barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

Drs said:

My hybrid came with 700x38 tyres. I want narrower ones. The closest I
ever come to being off-road is the gravel bike path around Albert Park
Lake. I see that road tyres go down as far as 700x20, although I don't
think I've seen a reference to a hybrid with narrower than 700x28. How
narrow could/should I realistically go? What specific brands/models
would people recommend?
--
"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of
bloody, barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of
religious piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is
cause for outraged apoplexy." Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/-
melgibsonpassion.htmlhttp://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

I run Continental Top Touring 2000 700 x 28 on Velocity Aero rims on m
hybrid and have never had a puncture yet. Although they are heavy, ther
are still fast and a very durable and great for commuting

Your rim size will dictate how far you can go down in width, see Sheldo
Brown's web site for a nifty table showing rim and tyre widths

Jame

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I run Continental Top Touring 2000 700 x 28 on Velocity Aero rims on
my hybrid and have never had a puncture yet. Although they are heavy,
there are still fast and a very durable and great for commuting.

I wandered into Cecil Walker's in town this morning and had a very
interesting chat with one of the staff about tyres and stuff. One of the
things that came up was the apparent polarisation between those Continental
users (with particular reference to Ultra Gatorskin riders), who love them
dearly on one side and those who despise them utterly on the other. His
opinion, having ridden various Contis for many thousands of kilometres over
the years, was that in general if you keep the pressure right up at around
120psi then Conti's are virtually bullet-proof but the moment you let their
pressure drop to around 100psi, which will happen in only a few days and
certainly less than a week, they are highly puncture prone. If too many
people were not paying close enough attention to their pressures then that
would explain the huge discrepancy in opinions, and he only half-jokingly
suggested that the recommended pressure for Contis should be 120psi -
120psi.

When I asked him about IRC he favoured the Tandem 700x30 Duro over the Road
Winner II 700x28 Duro. Although it's a touch heavier (375g v 290g), its
shape means you actually ride on a narrower centre strip. Food for thought.

He liked the Top Touring 2000, although at 430g for the bl/bl 700x28 I'm not
necessarily convinced. However, his pick for my hybrid was the Schwalbe
Marathon (
http://www.schwalbe.com/index.pl?bereich=produkte&einsatzbereich=4&produktgruppe=5&produkt=97&details=203 )
.. At 510g, though, it's even heavier than the Top Touring 2000 and more
expensive to boot ($44 versus $35) and I'm not sure about that reflective
strip on the sidewall. But it has an extraordinary pressure range,
55-115psi.

Interestingly, I can't find a review of the Michelin Dynamic anywhere.

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"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of bloody,
barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html

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I popped into Penny Farthing Cycles yesterday to check out their tyres and
they're rather keen on Vittoria. The Zaffiro road tyre now comes in a
700x28 (350g), or there's the Randonneur "double shielded" (490g). Vittoria
seem a tad expensive though, presumably because they're Italian. Does
anyone have an opinion on these tyres?

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"I'm proud that I live in a country where witnessing two hours of bloody,
barbarous torture in gloating detail is considered indicia of religious
piety, whereas a mere second gazing upon a woman's breast is cause for
outraged apoplexy."
Betty Bowers, http://www.bettybowers.com/melgibsonpassion.html