A mate has recently taken posession of his new 'Madone' & is keen t take on this weeks 'Hell Ride' on it. (he's a semi regular) (Stupidly), i've allowed myself to be talked into going with him.(I'v never done it). Whilst I've done plenty of bunch riding, I've neve ridden with a bunch quite as large as this! (& as quick). Anyone hav some tips for me as to how not to [censored] anybody (I'm thinking of th 'guns'!), off & how to have an enjoyable time myself. My mate reckon my fitness level etc, will be borderline as to whether i can han on....any tips would be great!
G'day, A mate has recently taken posession of his new 'Madone' & is keen to take on this weeks 'Hell Ride' on it. (he's a semi regular). (Stupidly), i've allowed myself to be talked into going with him.(I've never done it). Whilst I've done plenty of bunch riding, I've never ridden with a bunch quite as large as this! (& as quick). Anyone have some tips for me as to how not to [censored] anybody (I'm thinking of the 'guns'!), off & how to have an enjoyable time myself. My mate reckons my fitness level etc, will be borderline as to whether i can hang on....any tips would be great!, cheers, Hitchy
The only tip I can give is to always make sure you're on someone' wheel. You'll find that if you're at the back, the bunch will often hav surges of speed followed by recovery. If you're off the back of th bunch when a surge happens, you may find yourself being spat out th back, never to see the bunch again (until they come back that is)
Of course, they best way to avoid that is to stay closer to the front o the bunch (I always find myself at the back for some reason)
...and be ready for the inevitable split-second decision when the fron half get thru the red light and the back half hesitate and get lef behind. Or just ride thru it anyway, thus earning their re
Try and stick on your mates' whell if you are used to doing so readin body language and knowing what he is likely to do in troubled-time makes a big difference. sitting on a whell of someone who loves ridn the brakes and changing gears constantly can do your head in and rais your bpm higher than any hill ca
know where the sprints are and aim to get back on at OliversHill or th following longer hill (Humphries from memory
What time and where for the hell ride? I've never been able to catch it.
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G'day, A mate has recently taken posession of his new 'Madone' & is keen to take on this weeks 'Hell Ride' on it. (he's a semi regular). (Stupidly), i've allowed myself to be talked into going with him.(I've never done it). Whilst I've done plenty of bunch riding, I've never ridden with a bunch quite as large as this! (& as quick). Anyone have some tips for me as to how not to [censored] anybody (I'm thinking of the 'guns'!), off & how to have an enjoyable time myself. My mate reckons my fitness level etc, will be borderline as to whether i can hang on....any tips would be great!, cheers, Hitchy
The only tip I can give is to always make sure you're on someone's wheel. You'll find that if you're at the back, the bunch will often have surges of speed followed by recovery. If you're off the back of the bunch when a surge happens, you may find yourself being spat out the back, never to see the bunch again (until they come back that is).
Of course, they best way to avoid that is to stay closer to the front of the bunch (I always find myself at the back for some reason).
Originally posted by Vince Ficarra What time and where for the hel ride? I've never been able to catch it
G'day Vince
The 'hell ride' is saturday mornings from the Clock tower at Black Roc (on beach rd or whatever its called there)....outside Le knicks...leave at 7am ish (be early so I'm told).........they draw anything up t several hundred riders...should be good if I can hold on, (they go REA hard...hence the name, I take it)...see you there
7:00am "Hell Ride" Starts at Blackrock, goes down Beach Road to Mornington and back with sprint back to Blackrock Fast 100 - 200 riders from: http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/TrainingRides.asphttp://- www.thehippy.net/Cycling/TrainingRides.asp hippy
Actually, it "only" goes to Mt Eliza and does a loop through the M Eliza shopping village and back to Black Rock
7:00am "Hell Ride" Starts at Blackrock, goes down Beach Road to Mornington and back with sprint back to Blackrock Fast 100 - 200 riders from: http://www.thehippy.net/Cycling/TrainingRides.asphttp://- www.thehippy.net/Cycling/TrainingRides.asp hippy
Actually, it "only" goes to Mt Eliza and does a loop through the M Eliza shopping village and back to Black Rock
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G'day,
A mate has recently taken posession of his new 'Madone' & is keen to take on this weeks 'Hell Ride' on it. (he's a semi regular). (Stupidly), i've allowed myself to be talked into going with him.(I've never done it). Whilst I've done plenty of bunch riding, I've never ridden with a bunch quite as large as this! (& as quick). Anyone have some tips for me as to how not to [censored] anybody (I'm thinking of the 'guns'!), off & how to have an enjoyable time myself. My mate reckons my fitness level etc, will be borderline as to whether i can hang on....any tips would be great!,
How bout give it a miss and take the Madone up into the hills where it belongs ?
[Only 0.1kg above the UCI minimum weight limit of 6.8kgs... He'd better hope that nothing falls off it during a race! :-)
hipp
G'day hippy
I had heard that the UCI had a minimum weight requirement, (withou actually knowing what it was).....didn't I read something about th Saeco boys having to ADD weight to the cannondales they were riding i some stages of the TDF last year?.....anyway, in the latest 'Ride mag.....theres a report on some overseas bike show (don't recall whic one). Scott had a bike that came in at 4.8 something or othe kgs......apart from being lighter than my left leg....why bother?.... don't get it
[ Only 0.1kg above the UCI minimum weight limit of 6.8kgs... He'd better hope that nothing falls off it during a race! :-)
hipp
G'day Hippy
I had heard something about a UCI minimum weight requirement, (withou actually knowing what it was). Didn't I read somewhere that the Saec boys had to ADD weight to the 'dales on some of the stages of the TD last year?. In the latest 'Ride' mag, theres a report on some O/S bik show (can't remember where). They had a'Scott' on show that weighed 4. something KG....whats the point of that?...apart from being lighter tha my left leg?....would this bike have rider weight limits? (ie: you nee be under 40kgs to ride it?)
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I had heard that the UCI had a minimum weight requirement, (without actually knowing what it was).....didn't I read something about the Saeco boys having to ADD weight to the cannondales they were riding in some stages of the TDF last year?.....anyway, in the latest 'Ride" mag.....theres a report on some overseas bike show (don't recall which one). Scott had a bike that came in at 4.8 something or other kgs......apart from being lighter than my left leg....why bother?....I don't get it,
"Keith Bontrager once worked out that one percent off the total weight of bike and rider was worth 52 feet per mile on a climb, assuming constant power output. For a 65kg rider, Bryne's bike lops off 2.7 per cent compared to a UCI bike. On the 8.5 mile climb of the Alpe d'Huez, that's an advantage of over 1,100ft, or about 48 seconds (at 15mph). No wonder there's a push to reduce the weight limit."
48 seconds is HUGE at elite level racing in just about anything.
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I had heard that the UCI had a minimum weight requirement, (without actually knowing what it was).....didn't I read something about the Saeco boys having to ADD weight to the cannondales they were riding in some stages of the TDF last year?.....anyway, in the latest 'Ride" mag.....theres a report on some overseas bike show (don't recall which one). Scott had a bike that came in at 4.8 something or other kgs......apart from being lighter than my left leg....why bother?....I don't get it,
"Keith Bontrager once worked out that one percent off the total weight of bike and rider was worth 52 feet per mile on a climb, assuming constant power output. For a 65kg rider, Bryne's bike lops off 2.7 per cent compared to a UCI bike. On the 8.5 mile climb of the Alpe d'Huez, that's an advantage of over 1,100ft, or about 48 seconds (at 15mph). No wonder there's a push to reduce the weight limit."
48 seconds is HUGE at elite level racing in just about anything.
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"Keith Bontrager once worked out that one percent off the total weight of bike and rider was worth 52 feet per mile on a climb, assuming constant power output. For a 65kg rider, Bryne's bike lops off 2.7 per cent compared to a UCI bike. On the 8.5 mile climb of the Alpe d'Huez, that's an advantage of over 1,100ft, or about 48 seconds (at 15mph). No wonder there's a push to reduce the weight limit."
48 seconds is HUGE at elite level racing in just about anything.
But, is it safe to ride down the other side?
Not if _I_ was the one sitting on it, that's for sure!!
