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"hippy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Were you at Glenvale today?
I remembered your rainvest..

Ahh, Hippy, thanks mate, but I've got a cold and didn't race. I will
be there next Sunday, baring any more illness.

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RR: C grade pace was just too high and I spent
most of the race struggling to hang on. Tried setting
up for the sprint but it took so much effort to get
up towards the front that I had nothing left. Rolled
across the line, mildly annoyed, somewhere between
10th and 20th.

Well, you hung on.

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Ahh, Hippy, thanks mate, but I've got a cold and didn't race. I will
be there next Sunday, baring any more illness.

Cool. It's in the diary - I'll do my best to remember it ;-)

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up towards the front that I had nothing left. Rolled
across the line, mildly annoyed, somewhere between
10th and 20th.

Well, you hung on.

Yeah, but I was hoping for a better finish than last
week's 6th-ish. This week there were a couple of
strong breakaways, so the bunch pace was higher
trying to reel them in. I just didn't have the legs or
skill to work my way up to a good spot in time for
the sprint. Next week... ;-)

Track tonight.. don't know if my legs will actually
be working by then...

hippy

Twenty questions about Glenvale Crescent

What's the entry fee

Are there a lot of Blackburn riders there? Looking at the Carnegie
Caulfield site race results there hardly seems to be any!

What's this ride that happens afterwards? What's the pace like?Are ther
riders who go out and then back to their cars at Glenvale Cres

Cheer

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Twenty questions about Glenvale Crescent.

What's the entry fee?

$10 for the race.
If you don't have a license, you will need a day lic.
for ~$22 on top of the $10.

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Are there a lot of Blackburn riders there? Looking at the Carnegie /
Caulfield site race results there hardly seems to be any!!

Not as many as there are CC riders. They are a bigger club I
believe, so would probably have more chance of appearing in
the placings. I'd like to change that :-)

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What's this ride that happens afterwards? What's the pace like?Are

there

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riders who go out and then back to their cars at Glenvale Cres?

The ride that happened afterwards was in impromptu ride
because a couple of the lads from Croydon wanted to do
some extra training. I'm sure there are other rides that some
people organise on the day or maybe even regular ones?
The pace was easy then hard, then easy, then hard :-)
Are you asking if riders drive to the race, race and then
drive home? If so, then the answer is yes. I wouldn't
park on/near the circuit though, otherwise you wont be
able to get out when the later grades race.

hippy

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Twenty questions about Glenvale Crescent.

What's the entry fee?

$10 for the race. If you don't have a license, you will need a day lic.
for ~$22 on top of the $10.

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Are there a lot of Blackburn riders there? Looking at the Carnegie /
Caulfield site race results there hardly seems to be any!!

Not as many as there are CC riders. They are a bigger club I believe, so
would probably have more chance of appearing in the placings. I'd like
to change that :-)

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What's this ride that happens afterwards? What's the pace like?Are

there

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riders who go out and then back to their cars at Glenvale Cres?

The ride that happened afterwards was in impromptu ride because a couple
of the lads from Croydon wanted to do some extra training. I'm sure
there are other rides that some people organise on the day or maybe even
regular ones? The pace was easy then hard, then easy, then hard :-) Are
you asking if riders drive to the race, race and then drive home? If so,
then the answer is yes. I wouldn't park on/near the circuit though,
otherwise you wont be able to get out when the later grades race.
hippy

Thanks for the info

Yeah, I'll be driving there from Lower Templestowe

On the Carnegie/Caulfield website
http://www.carnegiecycling.com.au/rides.html , it says that many rider
ride down to Beach Rd after the race. I was just wondering if many (i
any) come back to Glenvale Crescent as I don't want to ride back to m
car on my own

I generally like to do a 130 - 150 km ride on Saturday mornings. If thi
ride after the race is a regular thing, then I can replace the Saturda
morning ride with this one

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Thanks for the info.

If I know it, I'll show it.. ;-)

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Yeah, I'll be driving there from Lower Templestowe.

How far is that? We ride 20k there for a nice warmup...

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On the Carnegie/Caulfield website,
http://www.carnegiecycling.com.au/rides.html , it says that many

riders

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ride down to Beach Rd after the race. I was just wondering if many (if
any) come back to Glenvale Crescent as I don't want to ride back to my
car on my own.

Ahh okay.. I didn't know about that. I never considered doing
ANY riding after a race except if it gets me home! :-) Not sure
if our Beach Rd. sojourn will become regular or not. Ask around
and you'll possibly find people doing what you want to do. We
don't head back to Glenvale, we head up Whitehorse Rd. after
the city.

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I generally like to do a 130 - 150 km ride on Saturday mornings. If

this

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ride after the race is a regular thing, then I can replace the

Saturday

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morning ride with this one.

That's true, unless you want an easier long ride? I was
pretty sore/tired by the end of our loop. Guess it depends
if you've got other things to do on Sat's and how inclined
you feel towards a long ride post-race?

hippy

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Not as many as there are CC riders. They are a bigger club I believe, so
would probably have more chance of appearing in the placings. I'd like
to change that :-)

Not to mention the fact that they shorten races when there are CCC
members in a break. (ie. Last week C grade got cut down by 5 minutes
and lengthen the race for "safety reasons" if there's a break with n
CCCC riders in it

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Not to mention the fact that they shorten races when there are CCCC
members in a break. (ie. Last week C grade got cut down by 5 minutes)
and lengthen the race for "safety reasons" if there's a break with no
CCCC riders in it.

Were you racing then? I wondered what the hell was going on...
I saw the 3 laps sign up and probably looked at my speedo
and thought "that's way too early!". Just after crossing the line,
I stopped my speedo and the time showed 48mins! That was
2mins less than the 50mins+3laps stated at the start and we'd
DONE the 3 laps already!
Gee, I wonder if I could've made up a few spots and scored
a place with the extra time??? ;-)

I'll be paying more attention to race times from now I think...

hippy

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How far is that? We ride 20k there for a nice warmup... hippy

Actually, it's about 20 odd km as well. Only thing is I don't like th
idea of becoming another road statistic by riding up Springvale Rd t
get there. Coming home would be even worse

On Sundays, I'm normally still a bit sore from doing my 140 km od
Saturday morning ride

I might do a shorter ride this Saturday morning and then race on Sunda
at Glenvale

Might see you there

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Actually, it's about 20 odd km as well. Only thing is I don't like the
idea of becoming another road statistic by riding up Springvale Rd to
get there. Coming home would be even worse!

Oh, I'll not mention the fact that that's the road we ride
along getting there and leaving towards Edithvale.

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On Sundays, I'm normally still a bit sore from doing my 140 km odd
Saturday morning ride.

I would be too :-)

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I might do a shorter ride this Saturday morning and then race on

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at Glenvale.

Good idea!

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Might see you there?

Probably. I'm usually in Croydon Cycleworks gear
with a couple of other dudes/dudettes.

hippy

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Might see you there?

Probably. I'm usually in Croydon Cycleworks gear with a couple of other
dudes/dudettes.
hippy

Cool. I'll be the one with the retro Cecil Walker, '93 Carrera jerse
and blue nicks (at least they're relatively new). :

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Cool. I'll be the one with the retro Cecil Walker, '93 Carrera jersey
and blue nicks (at least they're relatively new). 🙂

Which grade are you racing? I have the most honed
ability to totally forget someone I've just met and to
not recognise people when they change clothes, helmet,
bike, glasses, watch, deodorant, religion.. ;-)

hippy

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Cool. I'll be the one with the retro Cecil Walker, '93 Carrera jersey
and blue nicks (at least they're relatively new). 🙂

Which grade are you racing? I have the most honed ability to totally
forget someone I've just met and to not recognise people when they
change clothes, helmet, bike, glasses, watch, deodorant, religion.. ;-)
hippy

I pretty sure I'll remember you when I see you. I still remember you
real name too from when we did the 1/20 about 6 weeks ago

I'm not sure what grade to race. I raced D grade (that's all there was
at METEC two weeks ago. There were only 5 of us and I came second. Th
guy who won was 50 m ahead of me and the guy who came third was 50
behind me

Maybe I should try C grade

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Hippy said:

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Not as many as there are CC riders. They are a bigger club I believe, so
would probably have more chance of appearing in the placings. I'd like
to change that :-)

Not to mention the fact that they shorten races when there are CCCC
members in a break. (ie. Last week C grade got cut down by 5 minutes)
and lengthen the race for "safety reasons" if there's a break with no
CCCC riders in it.

That is pure [censored].

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I pretty sure I'll remember you when I see you. I still remember your
real name too from when we did the 1/20 about 6 weeks ago!

and I yours.. yell out that or "hippy!" and you'll get my attention.
"Oi! [censored] Head" will generally work too ;-)

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I'm not sure what grade to race. I raced D grade (that's all there

was)

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at METEC two weeks ago. There were only 5 of us and I came second. The
guy who won was 50 m ahead of me and the guy who came third was 50 m
behind me.

Maybe I should try C grade?

Nup. Glenvale D grade will be much faster than METEC D
grade, simply because there will be four times as many
people there to push up the pace, try breakaways, sprint, etc.
Once you get a few places in D grade at Glenvale, then think
about moving up. If you race this week and kill the field
though, you can probably move up straight away. Just don't
discount the 'non-physical' learning that takes place in lower
grades. E.g. Good to learn tactics and bike handling and
placement in slower bunches rather than when you are just
hanging on. It also sucks to be spat out the back before 1
lap has even finished! (me, C grade, Necropolis - twas after
a crash two days prior though, spent ages off the bike after
that).

hippy

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Not to mention the fact that they shorten races when there are CCCC
members in a break. (ie. Last week C grade got cut down by 5

minutes)

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and lengthen the race for "safety reasons" if there's a break with

no

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CCCC riders in it.

That is pure [censored].

That they shorten races or the fact that they do it
to advantage their own riders? Because they DID
shorten the race.

hippy

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Were you racing then? I wondered what the hell was going on... I saw the
3 laps sign up and probably looked at my speedo and thought "that's way
too early!". Just after crossing the line, I stopped my speedo and the
time showed 48mins! That was 2mins less than the 50mins+3laps stated at
the start and we'd DONE the 3 laps already! Gee, I wonder if I could've
made up a few spots and scored a place with the extra time??? ;-)
I'll be paying more attention to race times from now I think...
hippy

Yep, I was there, waiting for the bunch sprint. The bunch had it all
under control, except for the fact that the race got shortened by 5
minutes. There's no way they would have hung off if the race had
been legit.

(Could be worse, I know of BBN riders who've stayed in a break until the
1:15 mark of a 1 hour crit until the bunch caught them).

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"Shabby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FMh%b.10323

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Yep, I was there, waiting for the bunch sprint. The bunch had it all
under control, except for the fact that the race got shortened by 5
minutes. There's no way they would have hung off if the race had
been legit.

(Could be worse, I know of BBN riders who've stayed in a break until the
1:15 mark of a 1 hour crit until the bunch caught them).

Ahh don't tell me that.. I thought these club races were
played fair?! Does this mean I should start entering as
a Carnegie rider just in case I end up leading a break?

hippy

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Not to mention the fact that they shorten races when there are CCCC
members in a break. (ie. Last week C grade got cut down by 5

minutes)

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and lengthen the race for "safety reasons" if there's a break with

no

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CCCC riders in it.

That is pure [censored].

That they shorten races or the fact that they do it
to advantage their own riders? Because they DID
shorten the race.

That they did it to advantage their own riders of course.

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hippy