Probikekit & Customs

"NickZX6R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Has anyone ordered stuff from probikekit since they stopped paying
the customs duty?

It's time to get some more stuff so I'm wondering what the likelihood
of being stung with import duty is.

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Cheers.
-Nick

I have received gear since without any problems, I suspect that it might
depend on how big your order is.

Kev

I have heard that if the order is under $50 then you will be fine.
Otherwise, clothing gets charged a 35% levy if its over that amount. If
you know anyone in the UK, it would pay to get it sent to them and then
get them sent to you as a "gift".

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On 14/12/03 3:54 PM, in article [email hidden],

NickZX6R said:

Has anyone ordered stuff from probikekit since they stopped paying
the customs duty?

It's time to get some more stuff so I'm wondering what the likelihood
of being stung with import duty is.

www.customs.gov.au just says that you _may_ be liable for GST and/or
import duty for anything you purchase over the Internet. I'll have to
ring their 1300 number to find out details tomorrow.

Cheers.
-Nick

The amount of inaccurate information being posted in this thread is
staggering - see the end of my post for an example. There are four points
you need to concern yourself with.

1. Quality of online retailer.
I've ordered from pbk on at least 10 occasions now and find them to be
excellent. They're prompt, communicate well and always willing to assist you
in any way possible. I should stress I have no affiliation or involvement
with them.

2. Customs duty and ordering mechanisms.
Details relating to customs are clearly described on the customs website for
all to read. In short, if the total cost of your order is AUS$500.00 or more
(incl. freight) then GST will be charged. Less than that amount and no GST
is applicable (for bike clothing). From my experience, this also applies to
bike tyres, tubes, tools and individual components. Import a bike frame,
fork or complete groupset and customs duty will be charged regardless of the
total cost of the order.

3. Ordering from the UK website.
Pbk's initial screen allows you to choose the region you are from. Choosing
the UK region is slightly quicker as he goods are sent directly to you with
normal customs rules (above) applicable. Thus, if the total cost of your
order is less than AUS$500.00 then there is no GST payable.

Note that if you get the sizing wrong or have a problem with the goods, you
will be responsible for the costs involved in returning them to the UK - you
cannot ship it to the Australian location and expect them to take care of
it.

4. Ordering from the Australian website.
If you choose the Australian website, your goods will take a little longer
to arrive. Pbk in the UK sends a batch order approximately once per week
with all orders included to the Australian distribution centre. This batch
attracts GST which is then passed on to you the customer on a pro rata basis
- even if you order is for a pair of gloves costing AUS$20.00

If you should receive the wrong size or if the product is defective, you
need only pay for returning the items to the Australian distribution centre
- it is then pbk's responsibility to get it back to the UK and replace the
product.

Hope this helps,

Steve.

P.S. Below is what I am talking about in terms in accurate information:

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From: byron27 <[email hidden]>
Organization: cyclingforums.com
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Date: 15 Dec 2003 11:31:13 +1050
Subject: Re: Probikekit & Customs

I have heard that if the order is under $50 then you will be fine.
Otherwise, clothing gets charged a 35% levy if its over that amount. If
you know anyone in the UK, it would pay to get it sent to them and then
get them sent to you as a "gift".

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NickZX6R said:

Has anyone ordered stuff from probikekit since they stopped paying the
customs duty?

I did before they started to pay the customs duty .. some of my orders
were up to AU$260 and didn't end up with any duties, GST or other
levies applied.

When I order stuff from them, I try to keep it in the $200-250 range
(enough to get the free shipping, but not so much so customs starts
sniffing at it.)

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byron27 said:

I have heard that if the order is under $50 then you will be fine.
Otherwise, clothing gets charged a 35% levy if its over that amount. If
you know anyone in the UK, it would pay to get it sent to them and then
get them sent to you as a "gift".

AFAIK the "$50" comes in where iff the duty+GST would be > $50
then it is charged, otherwise it's deemed to not be worth it.
Some of the American couriers always charge GST as part of their
import process. Whether it is a gift or not, duty is still payable.
You can

There is an old ploy with bringing in extra duty-free alcohol.
Bring in more than the allowance, but stay under that $50 duty
barrier, so no tax is payable.

For an endless discussion on customs, duty, mail-delivery-times,
and what-not hang out on news:aus.dvd for a few days.

cheerz,
-kt

--
Kingsley Turner,
(mailto: [email hidden])
http://MadDogsBreakfast.com - Travel Tales: The good, bad, and down-right ugly

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There is an old ploy with bringing in extra duty-free alcohol.
Bring in more than the allowance, but stay under that $50 duty
barrier, so no tax is payable.

Does this really work? Would it work in, say, 3 months time? ;-)

hippy
"five cougars thanks!"

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There is an old ploy with bringing in extra duty-free alcohol.
Bring in more than the allowance, but stay under that $50 duty
barrier, so no tax is payable.

Does this really work? Would it work in, say, 3 months time? ;-)

You are much better off (if you like that) in buying the full 2 litres of
more expensive alcohol - say a couple of bottles of single malt.

If you like bundy however, you could probably get in about 3 litres...

Tim

hippy said:

"kingsley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

There is an old ploy with bringing in extra duty-free alcohol.
Bring in more than the allowance, but stay under that $50 duty
barrier, so no tax is payable.

Does this really work? Would it work in, say, 3 months time? ;-)

*shrug*

I've neveer done it, we used to buy duty free grog, but it ended
up going off before we drank it (Baileys separates after a few years
on the shelf)... So now we only get one bottle or nothing.

-kt

--
Kingsley Turner,
(mailto: [email hidden])
http://MadDogsBreakfast.com - Travel Tales: The good, bad, and down-right ugly

"kingsley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've neveer done it, we used to buy duty free grog, but it ended
up going off before we drank it (Baileys separates after a few years
on the shelf)... So now we only get one bottle or nothing.

Let me know if you go OS again and I'll put in an order
for some bourbon or scotch - no separation problems
with these two! ;-)

hippy

El Guardo <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

The amount of inaccurate information being posted in this thread is
staggering

Pot. Kettle. Black.

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4. Ordering from the Australian website.
Pbk in the UK sends a batch order approximately once
per week with all orders included to the Australian distribution
centre.

Pro Bike Kit no longer does this.

From http://www.probikekit.com/aus/shipping.php :

"All orders to Australia are sent from our warehouse in the United Kingdom
directly to you."

El Guardo said:

On 14/12/03 3:54 PM, in article [email hidden],

NickZX6R said:

Has anyone ordered stuff from probikekit since they stopped paying the
customs duty?

It's time to get some more stuff so I'm wondering what the likelihood
of being stung with import duty is.

www.customs.gov.au just says that you _may_ be liable for GST and/or
import duty for anything you purchase over the Internet. I'll have to
ring their 1300 number to find out details tomorrow.

Cheers. -Nick

The amount of inaccurate information being posted in this thread is
staggering - see the end of my post for an example. There are four
points you need to concern yourself with.
1. Quality of online retailer. I've ordered from pbk on at least 10
occasions now and find them to be excellent. They're prompt,
communicate well and always willing to assist you in any way
possible. I should stress I have no affiliation or involvement
with them.
2. Customs duty and ordering mechanisms. Details relating to customs are
clearly described on the customs website for all to read. In short,
if the total cost of your order is AUS$500.00 or more (incl. freight)
then GST will be charged. Less than that amount and no GST is
applicable (for bike clothing). From my experience, this also applies
to bike tyres, tubes, tools and individual components. Import a bike
frame, fork or complete groupset and customs duty will be charged
regardless of the total cost of the order.
3. Ordering from the UK website. Pbk's initial screen allows you to
choose the region you are from. Choosing the UK region is slightly
quicker as he goods are sent directly to you with normal customs
rules (above) applicable. Thus, if the total cost of your order is
less than AUS$500.00 then there is no GST payable.
Note that if you get the sizing wrong or have a problem with the goods,
you will be responsible for the costs involved in returning them to the
UK - you cannot ship it to the Australian location and expect them to
take care of it.
4. Ordering from the Australian website. If you choose the Australian
website, your goods will take a little longer to arrive. Pbk in the
UK sends a batch order approximately once per week with all orders
included to the Australian distribution centre. This batch attracts
GST which is then passed on to you the customer on a pro rata basis
- even if you order is for a pair of gloves costing AUS$20.00
If you should receive the wrong size or if the product is defective,
you need only pay for returning the items to the Australian
distribution centre
- it is then pbk's responsibility to get it back to the UK and replace
the product.
Hope this helps,
Steve.
P.S. Below is what I am talking about in terms in accurate information:
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Quoted message said:

From: byron27 <[email hidden]> Organization:
cyclingforums.com Newsgroups: aus.bicycle Date: 15 Dec 2003 11:31:13
+1050 Subject: Re: Probikekit & Customs

I have heard that if the order is under $50 then you will be fine.
Otherwise, clothing gets charged a 35% levy if its over that amount.
If you know anyone in the UK, it would pay to get it sent to them and
then get them sent to you as a "gift".

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Have rung and spoken to someone at customs this morning and this is th
official line: (cost of goods *.25 (clothing duty)) + postage on goods
*.10 (gst) = full price of goods

This applies to all amounts

I tried to order from the UK website as recommended by the "oracle
above but this can not be done. You must go through the Australian link

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Have rung and spoken to someone at customs this morning and this is the
official line: (cost of goods *.25 (clothing duty)) + postage on goods)
*.10 (gst) = full price of goods.

Should that be cost * 1.25 (in that you are paying a premium for clothing)?

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This applies to all amounts.

I tried to order from the UK website as recommended by the "oracle"
above but this can not be done. You must go through the Australian link.

Tim

On 20/12/03 11:31 PM, in article
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El Guardo <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

The amount of inaccurate information being posted in this thread is
staggering

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Quoted message said:

4. Ordering from the Australian website.
Pbk in the UK sends a batch order approximately once
per week with all orders included to the Australian distribution
centre.

Pro Bike Kit no longer does this.

From http://www.probikekit.com/aus/shipping.php :

"All orders to Australia are sent from our warehouse in the United Kingdom
directly to you."

I stand corrected - and appreciate the clarification. Wasn't like that when
I ordered from them two months ago.

I e-mailed Pro-Bike kit to ask if they'd be shipping goods from inside Aust.
anytime inthe future. their response:

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It is unlikely we will be shipping from inside aus again as >customs were

not too happy about it to say the least.

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Marc

GregW

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"byron27" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Have rung and spoken to someone at customs this morning and this is the
official line: (cost of goods *.25 (clothing duty)) + postage on goods)
*.10 (gst) = full price of goods.

Should that be cost * 1.25 (in that you are paying a premium for

clothing)?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This applies to all amounts.

I tried to order from the UK website as recommended by the "oracle"
above but this can not be done. You must go through the Australian link.

Tim