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  1. To contast the wet cold RR...

    Headed out from work for my normal travel commute home today (Melbourne
    Australia) - I live 8.5km from work but stretch it out to between 15 - 40kms
    with my ride along paths then single track when I get to it.

    Bloody hot today (36 degrees - that's Celcius), and just bought a Caribee
    Hydration pack this morning that I wore over the top of my laptop backpack -
    riding with the extra water certainly came in handy today, covering 35km,
    15km of that on single track.

    Starting from a steep decent that you have to take carefully (trees
    surrounding you and sudden drops to either side) I decided that my tyres are
    not really well designed for loose dirt, gravel or sand - but they do well
    enough seeing as most of my riding is on paved surfaces.

    Riding along the Yarra river, there are no really fast decents or wracking
    climbs - everything is relatively flat. There are some rocky sections of the
    path that require concentration, and other sections that require better
    tyres than I have to ride down safely (my Geax Evolution tyres just skid
    down loose dirt slopes of over 30 degrees).

    It is fun though to get onto some trail however so close to the city (about
    6km from the Melbourne CBD).

    As we had a big storm here last week, it was disappointing however to see
    the amount of rubbish that enters the waterway from the surrounding city and
    rural areas, washed up into the trees etc.

    After two hours of riding trail and bike path however in 36 degree heat, I
    was certainly glad to immerse myself in a cool bath, and also glad to be
    able to drink over two litres of water on the ride.

    All the best,

    Tim

  2. "Tim Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    To contast the wet cold RR...

    Headed out from work for my normal travel commute home today (Melbourne
    Australia) - I live 8.5km from work but stretch it out to between 15 -


    40kms

    Quoted message said:

    with my ride along paths then single track when I get to it.

    Bloody hot today (36 degrees - that's Celcius), and just bought a Caribee
    Hydration pack this morning that I wore over the top of my laptop


    backpack -

    Quoted message said:

    riding with the extra water certainly came in handy today, covering 35km,
    15km of that on single track.

    How awful! Do your back a favour, put a rack on that bike and use a small
    pannier for the clothes/laptop. It'll be so much easier to carry your water
    bag. and before you say 'singletrack', yes it is feasible. A friend of mine
    rode in a team on the recent 24 hr race using a rack and one rear pannier.

    Cheers
    Peter

  3. Peter Signorini said:

    "Tim Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message new-
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    Quoted message said:

    To contast the wet cold RR...

    Headed out from work for my normal travel commute home today
    (Melbourne Australia) - I live 8.5km from work but stretch it out to
    between 15 -


    40kms

    Quoted message said:

    with my ride along paths then single track when I get to it.

    Bloody hot today (36 degrees - that's Celcius), and just bought a
    Caribee Hydration pack this morning that I wore over the top of
    my laptop


    backpack -

    Quoted message said:

    riding with the extra water certainly came in handy today, covering
    35km, 15km of that on single track.


    How awful! Do your back a favour, put a rack on that bike and use a
    small pannier for the clothes/laptop. It'll be so much easier to carry
    your water bag. and before you say 'singletrack', yes it is feasible. A
    friend of mine rode in a team on the recent 24 hr race using a rack and
    one rear pannier.
    Cheers Peter

    I have often wondered about this... maybe it only applies to people with
    back problems but I find things seem to weigh alot less on your back
    than in your hands (obviously our anatomy caters for this), and
    therefore you would hardly even notice something like a backpack with
    2-3 ltrs of water.

    The only advantage(s) I can think of for panniers is touring and if you
    need to avoid a sweaty back (i.e. ride in your work/other clothes) - or
    back problems.

    My backpack has possibly saved me from many injuries, both on and off
    road (cushioning the fall) and now I rarely ride without one.

    --

  4. "Peter Signorini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Tim Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    To contast the wet cold RR...

    Headed out from work for my normal travel commute home today (Melbourne
    Australia) - I live 8.5km from work but stretch it out to between 15 -


    40kms

    Quoted message said:

    with my ride along paths then single track when I get to it.

    Bloody hot today (36 degrees - that's Celcius), and just bought a


    Caribee

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hydration pack this morning that I wore over the top of my laptop


    backpack -

    Quoted message said:

    riding with the extra water certainly came in handy today, covering


    35km,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    15km of that on single track.

    How awful! Do your back a favour, put a rack on that bike and use a small
    pannier for the clothes/laptop. It'll be so much easier to carry your


    water

    Quoted message said:

    bag. and before you say 'singletrack', yes it is feasible. A friend of


    mine

    Quoted message said:

    rode in a team on the recent 24 hr race using a rack and one rear pannier.

    I would be worried about the laptop getting too much vibration in a pannier
    however - on my back, I have the most efficient suspension system on any
    bike protecting it from bumps - the rider.

    I am looking at getting a pannier however at some point - and just avoiding
    real bumps with the laptop in their.

    My current laptop bag I found at yesterday is actually a hydration bag
    without the bladder - the laptop sits in their snuggly, and the Caribee bag
    is really comfortable.

    Tim

    Tim

  5. "ftf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have often wondered about this... maybe it only applies to people with
    back problems but I find things seem to weigh alot less on your back
    than in your hands (obviously our anatomy caters for this), and
    therefore you would hardly even notice something like a backpack with
    2-3 ltrs of water.

    The only advantage(s) I can think of for panniers is touring and if you
    need to avoid a sweaty back (i.e. ride in your work/other clothes) - or
    back problems.

    I guess I have a different take on this. As a bit of a whippet (62kg) I find
    a full 3 ltr water bag is quite noticable and will sway on your back when
    manoeuvring in town or off-road. I'll put up with it off-road as it's the
    easiest way to access water. But for commuting and general touring (which is
    what the Yarra Trail is after all) the only advantage I can think off for a
    back pack is to carry water. You'll get a sweaty back, be generally
    uncomfortable and I don't give much credence to the ideas of protecting the
    laptop. Like when you fall off and your backpack with laptop cushions your
    back....?

    Laptops will fit in panniers, in fact I think Ortlieb make some specially
    designed for this. It's easy to fit in some suitable shock cushioning foam.

    Cheers
    Peter

  6. "Peter Signorini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "ftf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have often wondered about this... maybe it only applies to people with
    back problems but I find things seem to weigh alot less on your back
    than in your hands (obviously our anatomy caters for this), and
    therefore you would hardly even notice something like a backpack with
    2-3 ltrs of water.

    The only advantage(s) I can think of for panniers is touring and if you
    need to avoid a sweaty back (i.e. ride in your work/other clothes) - or
    back problems.

    I guess I have a different take on this. As a bit of a whippet (62kg) I


    find

    Quoted message said:

    a full 3 ltr water bag is quite noticable and will sway on your back when
    manoeuvring in town or off-road. I'll put up with it off-road as it's the
    easiest way to access water. But for commuting and general touring (which


    is

    Quoted message said:

    what the Yarra Trail is after all) the only advantage I can think off for


    a

    Quoted message said:

    back pack is to carry water. You'll get a sweaty back, be generally
    uncomfortable and I don't give much credence to the ideas of protecting


    the

    Quoted message said:

    laptop. Like when you fall off and your backpack with laptop cushions your
    back....?

    Thanks - I might have to look into it more closely. I have burned a fair
    amount of my cycling budget recently however, have just bought a new
    wheelset (Deore hubs, Velocity VXC rims, Heavy duty spokes, disc specific).
    Have to save up my bickies!

    Quoted message said:

    Laptops will fit in panniers, in fact I think Ortlieb make some specially
    designed for this. It's easy to fit in some suitable shock cushioning


    foam.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll look into it.

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers
    Peter

  7. "Peter Signorini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "ftf" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have often wondered about this... maybe it only applies to people with
    back problems but I find things seem to weigh alot less on your back
    than in your hands (obviously our anatomy caters for this), and
    therefore you would hardly even notice something like a backpack with
    2-3 ltrs of water.

    The only advantage(s) I can think of for panniers is touring and if you
    need to avoid a sweaty back (i.e. ride in your work/other clothes) - or
    back problems.

    I guess I have a different take on this. As a bit of a whippet (62kg) I


    find

    Quoted message said:

    a full 3 ltr water bag is quite noticable and will sway on your back when
    manoeuvring in town or off-road. I'll put up with it off-road as it's the
    easiest way to access water. But for commuting and general touring (which


    is

    Quoted message said:

    what the Yarra Trail is after all) the only advantage I can think off for


    a

    Quoted message said:

    back pack is to carry water. You'll get a sweaty back, be generally
    uncomfortable and I don't give much credence to the ideas of protecting


    the

    Quoted message said:

    laptop. Like when you fall off and your backpack with laptop cushions your
    back....?

    Laptops will fit in panniers, in fact I think Ortlieb make some specially
    designed for this. It's easy to fit in some suitable shock cushioning foam

    I bought a Bobblebe hardshell backpack
    http://members.ozemail.com.au/~drgagnon/Backpack.htm to protect the Laptop
    and I added some reflective tape to aid in visibility when commuting to work
    early on winter mornings. When I was hit by a car earlier in the year, not
    only did the backpack protect my laptop, it also took some of the impact off
    of hitting the road and I much preferred the cosmetic damage to the pack
    than to on me.

    On riding with Camelbaks, I am sure that a few years ago I read an article
    about a guy who accidently rode off a cliff in the course of a ride, landed
    flat on his back some distance down, and was saved from serious injury by
    the Camelbak he was wearing.......another added bonus I guess.

    Gags

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