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  1. gravelmuncher <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Is there a downloadable program available for a road rider who works 5
    : days per week? I've recently put the mountainbike in the shed and bought
    : a new Trek, so i'd like to get started.

    To do what exactly? Do you want to train to race, ride to lose weight,
    ride to develop aerobic fitness, ride to develop endurance or just
    generally ride to be faster than you are now? Answering this will
    identify a goal which you can work towards.

    If you go over to Coach Carl Cantrell's website you can spend many hours
    reading useful information and ultimately work out a program that
    suits your needs: http://coachcarl.com/

    I'm in no way affiliated with Carl but have found many gems of cycling
    wisdom there.

    Cheerz,
    Lynzz

  2. Lindsay Rowland said:

    gravelmuncher <[email hidden]> wrote:
    : Is there a downloadable program available for a road rider who works 5
    : days per week? I've recently put the mountainbike in the shed and
    : bought a new Trek, so i'd like to get started.
    To do what exactly? Do you want to train to race, ride to lose weight,
    ride to develop aerobic fitness, ride to develop endurance or just
    generally ride to be faster than you are now? Answering this will
    identify a goal which you can work towards.
    If you go over to Coach Carl Cantrell's website you can spend many hours
    reading useful information and ultimately work out a program that suits
    your needs: http://coachcarl.com/http://coachcarl.com/
    I'm in no way affiliated with Carl but have found many gems of cycling
    wisdom there.
    Cheerz, Lynzz

    Thanks for the reply...in answering your question - all of the above.
    As soon as I gain a little more fitness/stamina i'll be joining a
    cycle club nearby and would like to be as competitive as possible. As
    i mentioned, i'm holding down a fulltime job...but surely many
    competing cyclists are in the same boat and i'd like to gather some
    advice on how to manage both activities. Thanks again for the link -
    i'll look into it.

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  3. "gravelmuncher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    As soon as I gain a little more fitness/stamina i'll be joining a
    cycle club nearby and would like to be as competitive as possible.

    Why wait until you're more fit? Join a club now. It will do wonders to
    motivate you to get out and do more miles, both training and racing, and
    you'll find you get a lot fitter, faster, than you would otherwise.

    Quoted message said:

    As i mentioned, i'm holding down a fulltime job...but surely many
    competing cyclists are in the same boat and i'd like to gather some
    advice on how to manage both activities.

    Almost all competitive cyclists work other jobs. There's only a tiny
    fraction of racers around who are able to train through the day. That's why
    you see such big bunches training early morning and late evenings. Indeed
    many of us have to fit training in with working full-time and studying part
    time as well. I personally find riding to work is useful, with perhaps one
    or two days a week where I take the long way to work or home, along with
    racing on Saturdays and doing a good long training ride on Sundays. In the
    lower grades, 200 or 300km per week is quite a good mileage, and it's
    reasonably easy to maintain this around work and uni.

    The main thing is to avoid wasting time watching that damned box (or reading
    those damned newsgroups, for that matter).

    Regards,

    Suzy

  4. gravelmuncher said:

    Thanks for the reply...in answering your question - all of the above.
    As soon as I gain a little more fitness/stamina i'll be joining a
    cycle club nearby and would like to be as competitive as possible. As
    i mentioned, i'm holding down a fulltime job...but surely many
    competing cyclists are in the same boat and i'd like to gather some
    advice on how to manage both activities. Thanks again for the link -
    i'll look into it.


    Like Suzy said, don't wait, do it now. There's nothing to make you
    strong/fit enough for racing like racing itself. If you keep waiting,
    you might never feel ready. Someone gave me this advice when I was in
    the same position as you, and they were right. Most clubs of any size
    have a grade in which rank beginners can cope. You might get dropped off
    the bunch the first couple of times, but stick with it and you will soon
    develop both the skills and the race sense to stay with it. By race
    sense I mean knowing when you can bludge and when it's worth putting in
    a little extra effort. For instance, in the lower grades (where I ride!)
    there can be a serious "spring" or yo-yo effect in the peloton, whereby
    in the sharper turns, the people towards the back have to slow right
    down to avoid riders in front when going into the corner, then sprint
    like crazy out of the corner to stay in contact. Riding nearer the front
    of the bunch makes you less susceptible to this and you can therefore
    make a more consistent effort. Until you have ridden a few races and
    feel comfortable with the pace, avoid going to the front and doing a
    turn, otherwise you may cook yourself and find yourself unable to hold
    the last wheel after peeling off.

    Rather than raw fitness, it's probably more important (w.r.t. taking up
    racing) to be sure that your bike handling skills and general road sense
    are up to scratch. You don't need to be able to eat a banana while
    standing on the saddle or anything, just be able to ride in a straight
    line with other riders (and your wits) about you and not jamming on the
    brakes. Following a wheel can take a bit of getting used to - don't let
    others pressure you into following more closely than you feel
    comfortable, and you'll soon find you can suck wheel with the best of
    them. There's some good tips about this on the http://coachcarl.com site
    that Lindsay mentioned.

    Sorry this driveled on so long...

    &roo

  5. Andrew Swan said:
    gravelmuncher said:

    Thanks for the reply...in answering your question - all of the above.
    As soon as I gain a little more fitness/stamina i'll be joining a
    cycle club nearby and would like to be as competitive as possible. As
    i mentioned, i'm holding down a fulltime job...but surely many
    competing cyclists are in the same boat and i'd like to gather some
    advice on how to manage both activities. Thanks again for the link -
    i'll look into it.


    Like Suzy said, don't wait, do it now. There's nothing to make you
    strong/fit enough for racing like racing itself. If you keep waiting,
    you might never feel ready. Someone gave me this advice when I was in
    the same position as you, and they were right. Most clubs of any size
    have a grade in which rank beginners can cope. You might get dropped off
    the bunch the first couple of times, but stick with it and you will soon
    develop both the skills and the race sense to stay with it. By race
    sense I mean knowing when you can bludge and when it's worth putting in
    a little extra effort. For instance, in the lower grades (where I ride!)
    there can be a serious "spring" or yo-yo effect in the peloton, whereby
    in the sharper turns, the people towards the back have to slow right
    down to avoid riders in front when going into the corner, then sprint
    like crazy out of the corner to stay in contact. Riding nearer the front
    of the bunch makes you less susceptible to this and you can therefore
    make a more consistent effort. Until you have ridden a few races and
    feel comfortable with the pace, avoid going to the front and doing a
    turn, otherwise you may cook yourself and find yourself unable to hold
    the last wheel after peeling off.
    Rather than raw fitness, it's probably more important (w.r.t. taking up
    racing) to be sure that your bike handling skills and general road sense
    are up to scratch. You don't need to be able to eat a banana while
    standing on the saddle or anything, just be able to ride in a straight
    line with other riders (and your wits) about you and not jamming on the
    brakes. Following a wheel can take a bit of getting used to - don't let
    others pressure you into following more closely than you feel
    comfortable, and you'll soon find you can suck wheel with the best of
    them. There's some good tips about this on the
    http://coachcarl.com/http://coachcarl.com site that Lindsay mentioned.
    Sorry this driveled on so long...
    &roo

    Thanks for the excellent reply, it's good to read this kind of advice as
    there is noone else in my town who even posesses a bike more than about
    20 years old! The roads within a 100 km radius are in pretty bad shape
    around here, and really narrow too - which makes riding to work a bit
    risky. I guess i'll just have to move back to the city to reap the
    benifits of daily riding.

    Thanks again for the reply Joe

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  6. hippy said:

    "Andrew Swan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:q001b.199> >
    Like Suzy said, don't wait, do it now. There's nothing to make you

    Quoted message said:

    strong/fit enough for racing like racing itself. If you keep waiting,
    you might never feel ready. Someone gave me this advice when I was in

    Why oh why didn't you guys write this 4 months ago?!
    I had 2-3 months off due to broken bones and a holiday
    overseas and then got stuck in this awful catch-22 of
    "I'm not fast enough to race..."
    "I'm not racing, why train?"
    "I'm not training so I'm not fast enough to race..."
    "I'm not racing, so why train?" etc etc etc!

    Anyway, I still haven't raced since March, but at least
    I'm training again... lets see if I can't race sometime soon!

    hip


    There's an inspirational post on rec.bicycles.racing (don't ask me to
    find it again) about how anyone who turns up and races is already a
    legend just for putting their ego on the line (the start line!). That
    sure helped me get up for my 5:45 alarm this morning, even if I did come
    about third last (in an all-grades ITT)! :-)

    &roo

  7. hippy said:

    It turns out that there was a race on today, would you believe?
    Unfortunately, I got a puncture... ... .... on the way home...
    after WINNING it! :-D


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    I'm so glad I finally raced again.
    Thanks guys/gals!
    hip


    Hey well done hipster - where did you race, what was the event, how many
    entrants, etc.?

    &roo

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