what does SWAG mean??

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Probably a Duh question and after as many rides with SWAG support that
I have been on I admit I do not know what SWAG stands for.
Bill B

SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess

I think you mean SAG support - transportation for those riders who are
sagging behind - or literally drooping from weariness.

skip

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Probably a Duh question and after as many rides with SWAG support that
I have been on I admit I do not know what SWAG stands for.
Bill B

SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess

I think you mean SAG support - transportation for those riders who are
sagging behind - or literally drooping from weariness.

skip

SAG specifically stands for either "Support And Gear" or "Safety And
Gear" depending on who you talk to. It's a term used on rides
generally sponsored or supported by a group of individuals or clubs
who use their time and motor vehicles to help the riders during the
ride. A greatly under-rated bunch, I might add.

Landonman

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SAG specifically stands for either "Support And Gear" or "Safety And
Gear" depending on who you talk to.

Or indeed nothing, depending on who you talk to. As far as I know
these are both backronyms, certainly the term was used uncapitalised
by my club years before I ever heard any suggestion that it might be
acronymic.

The sag-wagon existed for those who got the sag, being the British
version of the bonk (bonk means - ahem - something different in
Britain). Knowing of the existence of the verb "to sag" makes any
search for further meaning unlikely, of course.

Guy
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SAG specifically stands for either "Support And Gear" or "Safety And
Gear" depending on who you talk to.

Or indeed nothing, depending on who you talk to. As far as I know
these are both backronyms, certainly the term was used uncapitalised
by my club years before I ever heard any suggestion that it might be
acronymic.

The sag-wagon existed for those who got the sag, being the British
version of the bonk (bonk means - ahem - something different in
Britain). Knowing of the existence of the verb "to sag" makes any
search for further meaning unlikely, of course.

I think both Landon and Guy have got it right. The main problem is that
those doing the support themselves are not sure what it means, and so the
confusion goes on forever.

But it is nice when ARBR can solve these peccadilloes like this.

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 18:26:36 GMT, [email hidden] wrote in
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SAG specifically stands for either "Support And Gear" or "Safety And
Gear" depending on who you talk to.

Or indeed nothing, depending on who you talk to. As far as I know
these are both backronyms, certainly the term was used uncapitalised
by my club years before I ever heard any suggestion that it might be
acronymic.

The sag-wagon existed for those who got the sag, being the British
version of the bonk (bonk means - ahem - something different in
Britain). Knowing of the existence of the verb "to sag" makes any
search for further meaning unlikely, of course.

I think both Landon and Guy have got it right. The main problem is that
those doing the support themselves are not sure what it means, and so the
confusion goes on forever.

But it is nice when ARBR can solve these peccadilloes like this.

Thanks Ed,Guy,Dolan and Skip. Leave it to me to mis-spell Sag. The MS
150 ride I did in 2000 was the best sag I have encountered. I
personally did not need the services of the sag wagon but I did
appreciate the drivers slowing down as they drove by asking if I was
allright. Most of this ride was in the Hot and humid Mississippi Delta
with a steady headwind. Lots of riders were dropping like Flies. Well
into the ride I noticed that every time a sag truck passed by it would
have a load of bikes piled up in the bed with the riders crammed in
the cab.
Bill

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Thanks Ed,Guy,Dolan and Skip. Leave it to me to mis-spell Sag.

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you get at trade
shows and promotions. No idea where the word comes from, or if I am
spelling _that _ right.

John Riley

Just zis Guy said:

The sag-wagon existed for those who got the sag, being the British
version of the bonk (bonk means - ahem - something different in
Britain). Knowing of the existence of the verb "to sag" makes any
search for further meaning unlikely, of course.

Up to a point, Lord Copper. British cyclists had /that/ kind of bonk long
before the word was appropriated by tabloid FLJS. I am informed that they
chose this particular word as it is "knob" spelled backwards, but this is
very likely untrue, given the habits of tabloid FLJS.

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Thanks Ed,Guy,Dolan and Skip. Leave it to me to mis-spell Sag.

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you get at trade
shows and promotions. No idea where the word comes from, or if I am
spelling _that _ right.

That's right John. At every trade show I've been to vendors give out lots
of free SWAG (scientific wild ass guesses) when asked about their products.
;-)

skip

john riley said:

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you get at trade
shows and promotions. No idea where the word comes from, or if I am
spelling _that _ right.

Schwag is the word. See http://www.cyclo-x.com/schwag.html for a definition.

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dvt at psu dot edu

john riley said:

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you get at trade
shows and promotions. No idea where the word comes from, or if I am
spelling _that _ right.

Schwag is the word. See http://www.cyclo-x.com/schwag.html for a definition.

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Dave
dvt at psu dot edu

dvt said:

Schwag is the word. See http://www.cyclo-x.com/schwag.html for a definition.

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dvt at psu dot edu

Well, maybe, but not the only form. Swag has been used for loot since
way before the Internet and has been used at computer conferences,
etc. for freebies for some time.

And doing a quick Google search turns this up:

http://www.anu.edu.au/ANDC/Austwords/swag.html

and a whole lot of stores using swag to one degree or another for
hand-out items for conventions, etc. OTOH, more than a few use schwag,
which I've never heard of.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
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Schwag is the word. See http://www.cyclo-x.com/schwag.html for a

definition.

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Well, maybe, but not the only form. Swag has been used for loot since
way before the Internet and has been used at computer conferences,
etc. for freebies for some time.

And doing a quick Google search turns this up:

http://www.anu.edu.au/ANDC/Austwords/swag.html

and a whole lot of stores using swag to one degree or another for
hand-out items for conventions, etc. OTOH, more than a few use schwag,
which I've never heard of.

Here's my google search contribution:
http://tinyurl.com/2nrat

skip

Indeed there is a real word "swag." It comes from Old English and Old
Norse for "swing." One early use of the term (1303) is for "big bag"
(picture it swinging from a belt or wagon) or a "big blustering
fellow" (around 1580s). It seems to me there is a relationship with
pirate treasure, swag being loot captured or stolen--which might need
to be put into a big bag for carrying.

Gee, sometimes you need a swag bag on your bike if you are doing a lot
of errands.

Enjoy,
Michael

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Thanks Ed,Guy,Dolan and Skip. Leave it to me to mis-spell Sag.

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you get at trade
shows and promotions. No idea where the word comes from, or if I am
spelling _that _ right.

John Riley

Curtis L. Russell said:

Well, maybe, but not the only form. Swag has been used for loot
since way before the Internet and has been used at computer
conferences, etc. for freebies for some time.

I believe it's been used a lot longer than that. I think pirates used
it to describe their booty. Merriam-Webster dictionary has a
definition for swag: "goods acquired by unlawful means." Synonyms
loot, spoils, profits.

Gary

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I believe it's been used a lot longer than that. I think pirates used
it to describe their booty. Merriam-Webster dictionary has a
definition for swag: "goods acquired by unlawful means." Synonyms
loot, spoils, profits.

Gary

I know, but the link I gave covered it better than I could. For the
Aussies, the swagman even ended up (in what I think is) their national
anthem, Waltzing Matilda.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

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Gary Fritz said:

I believe it's been used a lot longer than that. I think pirates used
it to describe their booty. Merriam-Webster dictionary has a
definition for swag: "goods acquired by unlawful means." Synonyms
loot, spoils, profits.

Gary

I know, but the link I gave covered it better than I could. For the
Aussies, the swagman even ended up (in what I think is) their national
anthem, Waltzing Matilda.

The Australian national anthem is Advance, Australia Fair. It has no swagman.
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