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  1. Hello,
    I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts,
    Dave

  2. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts,
    Dave

    Price Point ??

  3. (Dave) said:

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    http://www.bianchiusa.com/milano.html

    ---
    "BitwiseBob" - Bob Anderson
    Eugene Oregon

  4. "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts,
    Dave

    Price Point ??

    How about cyclocross bikes?

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    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts,
    Dave

    Price Point ??

    How about cyclocross bikes?


    I'd go for a cyclocross bike. Unless you need a suspension, it's the way to
    go. Even with the wide offroad tires I can keep up with my friends on their
    quality road bikes. I have a Fuji Cyclocross, but check out the other
    brands too.

    Dean

  6. Bob Anderson said:
    (Dave) said:

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    http://www.bianchiusa.com/milano.html

    ---
    "BitwiseBob" - Bob Anderson
    Eugene Oregon

    😄

    Perfect cruiser!

    I've mentioned before in other thread that the Nexus hub, which the Milano
    has, is voonderbar beyond belief. No maintenance, except for a minor cable
    adjustment here and there (takes, oh....4-5 seconds) and just works.

    This is the kind of bike that'll get you hooked on cycling. You'll buy it,
    and fall it love with its ease and ability to cruise up to (in my world)
    twenty miles with comfort. Then you might covet something a little
    sportier--but you'll never stop riding your sweet sweet Nexus internal
    gear bike. You might just be satisfied with the cruiser--I was for many
    years, sold all my roadie stuff and just rode my Marin San Anselmo with
    street clothes--over 200 miles per week--it was just so easy to hop on and
    not have to suit up in the kooky bike gear. This is what most European
    "standard" bikes look like, the ones that get ridden every day, and that
    say something. 😄

    I've got a restored sporty vintage racer now, and love it, but the
    Bianchi, or similar, is a perfect start! Highly recommended! I miss mine.

    😄

  7. Bob Anderson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (Dave) said:

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    http://www.bianchiusa.com/milano.html

    Too expensive. This would work well for much less:
    http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/essential/ess_12.html

    JD

  8. <snip question>

    Try the rigid Specialized HardRock. Great for the road (change out the tyres
    for HardRock'rs since they roll better and are actually better in the dirt than
    the crud they sell them with) and it is fine on the dirt. I got mine a few
    years ago for less than $300, so it shouldn't strain the wallet much.
    You really don't NEED suspension forks, although I'm told they make it less
    important to pick the "right" line.

    Steve "Luddite"

  9. Stephen Baker said:

    <snip question>

    Try the rigid Specialized HardRock. Great for the road (change out the tyres
    for HardRock'rs since they roll better and are actually better in the dirt than
    the crud they sell them with) and it is fine on the dirt.

    Alas, the newer versions of the HardRock have gone a bit 'freeridey' and
    are now a bit on the porky side.

  10. Yes, cyclocros bike is good idea, and what about an titanium frame
    http://www.morati.com/en/produkce_ramy_cr11.htm
    becourse titanium frame is undestroyable...
    Sgt Pepper

    "Dean Slyter" <[email hidden]> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
    news:9dnIc.58617$a24.15395@attbi_s03...

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    "dreaded" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Hello,
    > I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    > information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    > variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    > my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    > appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    > following criteria...
    >
    > - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    > relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    > less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.
    >
    > - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    > good "starter" model?
    >
    > Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    > is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    > described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    > find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    > for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.
    >
    > Thank you for your thoughts,
    > Dave

    Price Point ??

    How about cyclocross bikes?


    I'd go for a cyclocross bike. Unless you need a suspension, it's the way to
    go. Even with the wide offroad tires I can keep up with my friends on their
    quality road bikes. I have a Fuji Cyclocross, but check out the other
    brands too.

    Dean

  11. Yes, cyclocros bike is good idea, and what about an titanium frame
    http://www.morati.com/en/produkce_ramy_cr11.htm
    becourse titanium frame is undestroyable...
    Sgt Pepper

    "Dean Slyter" <[email hidden]> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
    news:9dnIc.58617$a24.15395@attbi_s03...

    Quoted message said:


    "dreaded" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Hello,
    > I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    > information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    > variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    > my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    > appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    > following criteria...
    >
    > - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    > relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    > less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.
    >
    > - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    > good "starter" model?
    >
    > Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    > is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    > described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    > find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    > for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.
    >
    > Thank you for your thoughts,
    > Dave

    Price Point ??

    How about cyclocross bikes?


    I'd go for a cyclocross bike. Unless you need a suspension, it's the way to
    go. Even with the wide offroad tires I can keep up with my friends on their
    quality road bikes. I have a Fuji Cyclocross, but check out the other
    brands too.

    Dean

  12. bomba says:

    Quoted message said:

    Alas, the newer versions of the HardRock have gone a bit 'freeridey' and
    are now a bit on the porky side.

    Shame that. I'll have to stop recommending the fsckin' things. I suppose all
    good things pass eventually. ;-(

    Steve

  13. [email hidden] (Dave) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts,
    Dave

    It sounds like you're planning to ride mostly on the pavement and
    maybe some trails now and then. For general fitness and trips to the
    store, I would go with a hybrid, like the Trek 7100 or the Giant
    Cypress. They'll be smoother on the pavement than a mountain bike and
    will handle a hard-packed trail just fine. But don't listen to me.
    Head down to your local bike shop, grab one of each, take them for a
    spin around the parking lot and see which one you like better.

    Good luck,
    Richard Stanz

  14. [email hidden] (Dave) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    The more upright you are the more likely you are to be more
    comfortable. Upright positions are more achievable with a hybrid or
    mountain bike. I've seen bar ends mounted in such ways that the rider
    is seated pretty vertical. Avoid really wide saddles. They get you
    sweaty and itchy. Use a wide tire that doesn't require a very high
    pressure. Softer tires make for a smoother ride. However it does slow
    you down.

    Quoted message said:


    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    good "starter" model?

    Look around for what is available at a garage sale. If you end up
    riding you can always upgrade. And if you don't you haven't spent a
    lot of dollars. In the end it is the components that make up the bulk
    of reliability. The frame will be fine long after the derailer needs
    service. Therefore go with a frame that you feel comfortable on and
    that has good componants. Either Shimano or Campy will do you good.

    Quoted message said:


    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    described use (or associated premium with one or the other)?

    All bikes manufactured these days are pretty reliable (excepting
    k-mart specials and such). If your frame breaks then it is a fault of
    the manufacturer. A typical road frame will be able to take the abuse
    you'd likely give it on your 10 mile jaunts.

    The largest real difference in your application is the wheel size
    between a mountain bike and a hybrid. Mountain bikes use smaller
    diameter wheels. While a hybrid will use a larger diameter wheel.
    Mountain bikes will usually be sold with knobby tires which slow you
    down on pavement. Hybrids tend to be sold with a light tread or slick
    tire which roll better on pavement. Don't get a bike with heavy duty
    shocks. You won't need them on the road.

    If I

    Quoted message said:

    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Off the top of my head well known brands are Trek, Cannondale, GT,
    Giant.

    Enjoy the ride,
    Andy

    Quoted message said:


    Thank you for your thoughts,
    Dave

  15. On 12 Jul 2004 11:12:13 -0700, [email hidden] (amh) wrote in
    message <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    The more upright you are the more likely you are to be more
    comfortable.

    Man, that is the exact opposite of the truth! If you want comfort you
    need to leave the uprights behind entirely!

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  16. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Man, that is the exact opposite of the truth! If you want comfort you
    need to leave the uprights behind entirely!

    Couldn't agree more. I had no idea what was comfort was on a bicycle until
    I got my road bike last Feb.

    Dave

  17. [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Bob Anderson <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    (Dave) said:

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    http://www.bianchiusa.com/milano.html

    Too expensive. This would work well for much less:
    http://www.electrabike.com/04/bikes/essential/ess_12.html

    JD

    That wheelbase is way too short:
    http://www.kustomkruiser.com/catalog/roadster.html
    /s

  18. "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts,
    Dave

    Price Point ??

    Churchill,
    I am hoping to receive responses that say something along the lines
    of..."for your described activity, you should get a mountain bike for
    these reasons...a, b, c, and the models of these types of bikes that
    are considered good quality for relatively low investment in this
    category would be x, y, z." Or, "a mountain bike generally carries a
    premium for your described activity and you should start with a
    hybrid." Or, "you're being too particular and should simply get the
    best-fit hybrid or MTB from the classifieds and then when you decide
    to spend money, you'll know how you use it and what you'd like to see
    in a better bike." Obviously, staying away from the WalMart brands
    that will break down and constantly need repair.

    TIA.

  19. Get a road bike that has enough clearance for slightly wider tires. Most of
    the lower range road bikes (under $500) have room for medium width tires.

    And find a shop that will fit you to the bike, or more correctly, fit the
    bike to you. And be prepared to get the fit adjusted over the next few
    thousand miles. The more you ride the more you will feel comfortable
    stretched out, or what some call leaning forward.

    Bruce

  20. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Churchill" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    Quoted message said:
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    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hello,
    I am looking for advice on buying a bike and have read some
    information on the web. However, like most things in life, there are
    variables and differing opinions on the subject. So, I wanted to post
    my questions, as I have a habit of over-analzying things, and would
    appreciate your input. I would like to hear your opinion(s) on the
    following criteria...

    - I would like a bike that would be comfortable for 10 mile jaunts on
    relatively flat, northeast (US) pavement and be durable enough for
    less-than-ideal road/weather conditions and path/trail riding.

    - Based on the style of bike that you would recommend, what would be a
    good "starter" model?

    Road bikes seem out of the question due to the durability issue, but
    is there a real difference between hybrids and mountain bikes for my
    described use (or associated premium with one or the other)? If I
    find myself using it regularly, I will invest in a custom bike, but
    for now I'd like to investigate various models, brands, etc.

    Thank you for your thoughts,
    Dave

    Price Point ??

    Churchill,
    I am hoping to receive responses that say something along the lines
    of..."for your described activity, you should get a mountain bike for
    these reasons...a, b, c, and the models of these types of bikes that
    are considered good quality for relatively low investment in this
    category would be x, y, z." Or, "a mountain bike generally carries a
    premium for your described activity and you should start with a
    hybrid." Or, "you're being too particular and should simply get the
    best-fit hybrid or MTB from the classifieds and then when you decide
    to spend money, you'll know how you use it and what you'd like to see
    in a better bike." Obviously, staying away from the WalMart brands
    that will break down and constantly need repair.

    TIA.

    MTBs range anywhere from $ 500 to $ 15,000 and u get what you pay for so
    price-point is an important start.

    Wally-Mart may has decent bikes for starters, depends on what you are
    looking for.

    Cordially

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