FR (fit report)

"Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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After multiple people recommended the place, I made an appointment to
get my bike fit to me with Sports Garage in Boulder. I'd never
considered it for bike stuff before because the name sounded so generic,
like Gart's or something -- what a mistake! If I'd come to Sports
Garage first, I might have ended up with ... well, whatever. Can't
change the past. It just "feels" like a real bike shop and not just a
place to sell stuff (that happens to be bikes).

So, anyway, this was a full-up three hour fitting. They have an
espresso machine for optional before and after noshing, and poweraid and
water for during. I opted to avoid the caffeine hit till after the
workout. We went through a ton of lifestyle, activities, and injury
questions, then took bunches of measurements. They have this nifty
stationary bike that adjusts, so he made it like my bike, then had me
pedal.

So this was interesting. I'm not sure whether we spent more time
adjusting the bike or adjusting me. We worked on proper pedalling
technique and on keeping my back properly aligned rather than hunching
my shoulders. In between working on this, Tim would tweak a setting
here, measure an angle there. It was basically a video game -- a big
tv screen where I could monitor my RPMs, wattage, and some score that
apparently indicated my pedalling efficiency. There was a lot of sweat
involved.

The upshot: a new seatpost with the fastner centered rather than
rearward,

Word. I hate offset seatposts.

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as well as the saddle being positioned farther up, and an 80mm
stem rather than the 120 or so I had before.

It's a Sugar, right? Well, I felt the cockpit was a bit long too. I went
with a shorter stem (RF Deus) when I upgraded parts too.

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Funny; he made my cockpit
shorter, which seems like the opposite of what I wanted. But when I'm
not hunching my shoulders, it feels really comfortable. And for those
of you bontrager anti-fans out there, this is two fewer bonti pieces on
my bike.

Indeed. Bonti stuff, despite the debt we owe to guys like KB, sucks.

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Anyway, can't wait to try it out and see what I think.

Ride the freakin' hell out of it.

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My only problem is the espresso ... I'm not used to caffeine anymore,
and now I can't get to sleep! Actually, my brain's kind of asleep, so
my fingers are typing this of their own accord -- hope this doesn't end
up *too* disjointed.

Well, I'm pretty drunk, and I think I avoided a bunch of typos. Everyone
should wathc Aqua Teen Hunger Force, like I am.

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--
monique

Chris
-also has a Sugar. Loves the ride, despite folks like JD

"Monique Y. Mudama" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anyway, can't wait to try it out and see what I think.

My only problem is the espresso ... I'm not used to caffeine anymore,
and now I can't get to sleep! Actually, my brain's kind of asleep, so
my fingers are typing this of their own accord -- hope this doesn't end
up *too* disjointed.

We had Jim fitted for his track bike, it was quite an interesting experience
but well worth the time and effort.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

On 2004-06-22, Chris penned:

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It's a Sugar, right? Well, I felt the cockpit was a bit long too. I
went with a shorter stem (RF Deus) when I upgraded parts too.

The funny part about it is that I actually got the Sugar in part for the
longer cockpit, and I had a longer stem put on when I first got it.
Turns out that was all due to bad bike posture. The trick will be to
train myself to ride properly.

Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride. He said he's
got the best example of a proper back position in the lead peliton (sp?).

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Indeed. Bonti stuff, despite the debt we owe to guys like KB, sucks.

KB?

I really don't see how a stem or a seatpost could suck or be
outstanding, to be honest. It has to not break, and that's about it,
no?

Oh, I also asked them to weigh the bike while I was there. They have a
nifty stand that has a built-in scale. 29.5 pounds. He had me guess
first, and I said 30. So it's not exactly the lightest puppy on the
block ... but then, I should be able to shed weight a lot easier than it
can.

He also adjusted the rebound on my shocks, which were both set to
ultra-slow. The upshot of that is that I can suddenly lift my front
wheel easily again.

--
monique

<Originally posted by Carla A-G We had Jim fitted for his track bike, it
was quite an interesting experience but well worth the time and effort.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!>

It was pretty cool getting fit up for a bike. I will say it did seem
counter intuitive though. After he took all the measurments he told me a
frame size that I thought would be too small... We let the numbers do
the talking though and when I got the bike it fit perfectly... Amazing
this math stuff!

Jimbo(san)

--

Chris said:

Everyone
should wathc Aqua Teen Hunger Force, like I am.

I'm so hooked on athf. I havn't yet met anyone in meatspace who
appreciates it.

Monique Y. Mudama said:

Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride. He said he's
got the best example of a proper back position in the lead peliton (sp?).

Peleton :O)

I would imagine his posture was terrible last year - he rode most of Le
Tour with a broken collarbone.

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Indeed. Bonti stuff, despite the debt we owe to guys like KB, sucks.

KB?

Keith Bontrager. Originator of the Bontrager equipment and some very nice
frames before he sold out to Trek.

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I really don't see how a stem or a seatpost could suck or be
outstanding, to be honest. It has to not break, and that's about it,
no?

You're essentially right. Weight has to be taken in to consideration.
Getting a strong, light post / stem that doesn't slip and doesn't break is
the goal.

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-22, Chris penned:

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Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride. He said he's
got the best example of a proper back position in the lead peliton (sp?).

While that may be true, ones position on a road bike, especially for
racing, is not the same as the position on a mountain bike, again for a
casual mountain bike rider.
And, I certainly would not use Tyler as an example of mountain bike fit,
considering the importance of bike handling skills in mountain biking.
He is not known for his bike handling skills, as his frequent crashes
attest to.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
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Chris said:

Everyone
should wathc Aqua Teen Hunger Force, like I am.

I'm so hooked on athf. I havn't yet met anyone in meatspace who
appreciates it.

My friends - once Simpsons, then Family Guy addicts - are just catching on
to ATHF, like in the past two weeks, despite my giving them a disc with
episodes like Bus of the Undead and Mooninites about two years ago. Morons.

They're beginning to understand why, at our poker night, I adopt a lazy
accent and proclaim, "the innocent shall suffer...big time" before taking
their money.

Chris

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And, I certainly would not use Tyler as an example of mountain bike fit,

or even road bike fit because Phil Liggett often picks him out of the pack
by his 'odd upright posture on the bike'.

Chris said:

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Chris said:

Everyone
should wathc Aqua Teen Hunger Force, like I am.

I'm so hooked on athf. I havn't yet met anyone in meatspace who
appreciates it.

My friends - once Simpsons, then Family Guy addicts - are just catching on
to ATHF, like in the past two weeks, despite my giving them a disc with
episodes like Bus of the Undead and Mooninites about two years ago. Morons.

They're beginning to understand why, at our poker night, I adopt a lazy
accent and proclaim, "the innocent shall suffer...big time" before taking
their money.

Chris

They cannot beging to comprehend us

On 2004-06-22, Jimbo penned:

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It was pretty cool getting fit up for a bike. I will say it did seem
counter intuitive though. After he took all the measurments he told me
a frame size that I thought would be too small... We let the numbers
do the talking though and when I got the bike it fit perfectly...
Amazing this math stuff!

Yeah. It really weirded me out that he was shrinking everything, but
what he said about posture made a lot of sense.

Of course, if it sucks, I still have the old parts.

--
monique

On 2004-06-22, bomba penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride. He said
he's got the best example of a proper back position in the lead
peliton (sp?).

Peleton :O)

I would imagine his posture was terrible last year - he rode most of
Le Tour with a broken collarbone.

Yeah. I would imagine, too. And his poor teeth!

I guess I just don't have the grit* to be a professional athlete. When
it comes to self-induced permanent damage, count me out!

* Or the muscle, but, you know, whatever.

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I really don't see how a stem or a seatpost could suck or be
outstanding, to be honest. It has to not break, and that's about it,
no?

You're essentially right. Weight has to be taken in to consideration.
Getting a strong, light post / stem that doesn't slip and doesn't
break is the goal.

Sure, weight is a factor, but I have so many other heavy pieces on my
bike ... not to mention my own fat ass and a filled camelbak with all
sorts of stuff in it ...

The replacements were a Salsa 80mm stem and a Thomson something or
other seatpost.

--
monique

On 2004-06-22, Craig Brossman penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-22, Chris penned:

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Tim, my fitter person, said to watch Tyler Hamilton ride. He said he's
got the best example of a proper back position in the lead peliton (sp?).

While that may be true, ones position on a road bike, especially for
racing, is not the same as the position on a mountain bike, again for a
casual mountain bike rider.

Sure. But the main thing he emphasized was getting my weight off my
hands. I don't think any kind of cycling espouses having all your
weight on your hands. The back position was a means to doing so, and to
getting more power from my glutes.

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And, I certainly would not use Tyler as an example of mountain bike fit,
considering the importance of bike handling skills in mountain biking.
He is not known for his bike handling skills, as his frequent crashes
attest to.

That's kinda scary. I didn't realize that.

--
monique

Monique Y. Mudama said:

It really weirded me out that he was shrinking everything

Don't let that weird you out too much. I mean, look at Sorni; He still
goes out in public.

--
Slacker

On 2004-06-23, Slacker penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

It really weirded me out that he was shrinking everything

Don't let that weird you out too much. I mean, look at Sorni; He still
goes out in public.

-- Slacker

!!

--
monique

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-23, Slacker penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

It really weirded me out that he was shrinking everything

Don't let that weird you out too much. I mean, look at Sorni; He
still goes out in public.

-- Slacker

!!

Don't encourage him.

Bill "well, women have breast reductions, so..." S.

Monique Y. Mudama said:

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I would imagine his posture was terrible last year - he rode most of
Le Tour with a broken collarbone.

Yeah. I would imagine, too. And his poor teeth!

Poor teeth? He's not English, is he? 🙂

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I guess I just don't have the grit* to be a professional athlete. When
it comes to self-induced permanent damage, count me out!

I played 35 minutes of an international rugby game with a fractured
cheekbone last year...

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You're essentially right. Weight has to be taken in to consideration.
Getting a strong, light post / stem that doesn't slip and doesn't break
is the goal.

Sure, weight is a factor, but I have so many other heavy pieces on my
bike ...

Take care of the oz.s and the pounds will look after themselves.

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not to mention my own fat ass and a filled camelbak with all
sorts of stuff in it ...

Of course, that helps with the amount of weight that has to be carried up
any given hill, but the weight of the bike affects the way it rides.

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The replacements were a Salsa 80mm stem and a Thomson something or other
seatpost.

Lucky girly. Those are some very nice bits.

On 2004-06-23, bomba penned:

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Monique Y. Mudama said:

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I would imagine his posture was terrible last year - he rode most of
Le Tour with a broken collarbone.

Yeah. I would imagine, too. And his poor teeth!

Poor teeth? He's not English, is he? 🙂

He ground them all down from the pain while riding ... he needed like 12
crowns or something.

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I guess I just don't have the grit* to be a professional athlete.
When it comes to self-induced permanent damage, count me out!

I played 35 minutes of an international rugby game with a fractured
cheekbone last year...

Like I said ...

Although I know that adrenaline does some crazy things. I've completed
podunk sparring matches before realizing that I'd sprained my ankle.
Once I had more than a few seconds to rest, the pain came crashing in on
me.

I've been lucky enough never to fracture or break anything ... so far.

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Sure, weight is a factor, but I have so many other heavy pieces on my
bike ...

Take care of the oz.s and the pounds will look after themselves.

Yes, if by ounces you mean ounces of cheese!

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not to mention my own fat ass and a filled camelbak with all sorts of
stuff in it ...

Of course, that helps with the amount of weight that has to be carried
up any given hill, but the weight of the bike affects the way it
rides.

Sure, as does the weight distribution ... actually, after the fit, Tim
(my fitter guy) noticed that my rebound settings were all ultra-slow.
He fixed it all up for me and set the shocks properly, and now I can
once again easily lift the front wheel, bunny hop, etc. It feels like
it's actually easier than before.

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The replacements were a Salsa 80mm stem and a Thomson something or
other seatpost.

Lucky girly. Those are some very nice bits.

Oh ... I didn't really know. I just asked for "cheap, please." The
stem wasn't that much; the seatpost was, because he said they didn't
have any cheaper ones with a center attachment thingie. Maybe he cut me
a deal, or maybe their prices are just tons better than the place where
I originally got the bike. Either way, the service was top notch. When
I start shopping for the Perfect Bike, I will go to Sports Garage.

--
monique

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Lucky girly. Those are some very nice bits.

Dirty flirt.

Shaun aRe