Mtbing Shoes

Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of shoes in less
then a year. Does anybody have recommendations for something that
will last? I ride three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs.
I have Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on one side
and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you tried those?

Matt

So far I am very happy with my Pearl Izumis

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Quoted message said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of shoes in less then a
year. Does anybody have recommendations for something that will last? I
ride three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I have Crank bros
Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the peddle a lot because I

think

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I *might* fall. (But only on one side and that's not the side that

broke.)

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MattB said:

Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of shoes in less
then a year. Does anybody have recommendations for something that
will last? I ride three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs.
I have Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on one side
and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you tried those?

Matt

LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT that durable. They
have decent soles, but I wouldn't say they are that great. The selling
point of the Sidi brand is the fit and cool buckles.

Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221. That thing has
got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a heavy rubber sole that will last
quite a while.

Heheh, sorry Matt... but you probably just don't abuse your shoes like Joel
does. 😉

John M

SniffinVinyl said:

So far I am very happy with my Pearl Izumis

Pearl makes some nice high end stuff. Their soles are especially nice
because the I-beam construction is all one solid piece... and the big
rubber lugs are molded into the sole instead of just glued. The upper is
often protected with a nice strip of rubber that goes all the way around
the outside and covers the toe area as well.

John M

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MattB said:

Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of shoes in less
then a year. Does anybody have recommendations for something that
will last? I ride three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs.
I have Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on one side
and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you tried those?

Matt

LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT that durable.

They

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have decent soles, but I wouldn't say they are that great. The selling
point of the Sidi brand is the fit and cool buckles.

Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221. That thing has
got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a heavy rubber sole that will

last

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quite a while.

Heheh, sorry Matt... but you probably just don't abuse your shoes like

Joel

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does. 😉

I have the Sidi Action SRS shoes, and I have to agree with you about the
uppers not being heavy duty. Luckily for me, I'm not abusive to my shoes.

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Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of shoes in less
then a year. Does anybody have recommendations for something that
will last? I ride three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs.
I have Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on one side
and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you tried those?

Matt

Whaddabout when your toe gets poked by sagebrush?

JD

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LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT that durable. They
have decent soles, but I wouldn't say they are that great. The selling
point of the Sidi brand is the fit and cool buckles.

You must be joking. I've been using a pair of Sidi's for 4 years now,
they fit me so well that they feel like a 2nd skin when I'm wearing
them.They have been through EVERYTHING and ALL conditions and manners
of riding. I have yet to rip or break anything on the shoes after
thousands of miles of riding them and treating them harshly. They
simply are the best mtb shoe I have ever had the pleasure of using and
abusing.

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Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221. That thing has
got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a heavy rubber sole that will last
quite a while.

I see it differently. I had a pair of Shimano's, took me about 2
months of riding before they fell apart on me. I still have another
pair of Shimano's that I use when I want to take easy/local rides, but
I would never use them as my daily riding shoe.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

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Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of shoes in less
then a year. Does anybody have recommendations for something that
will last? I ride three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs.
I have Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on one side
and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you tried those?

Matt

Whaddabout when your toe gets poked by sagebrush?

JD

Hasn't happened with the Sidis. It will one day, but so far that's only
happened with several other brands (Mr. Smarty-pants!). The hole is started,
but not all the way through.
I need a shoe with reinforcement by the outside of the pinkie toes, but
nobody seems to make one like that.
I'm also on the start of the third season with these so that's pretty good
for me. I've usually ground all the way through by now.

Matt

Carla A-G said:

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LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT that durable.
They
have decent soles, but I wouldn't say they are that great. The selling
point of the Sidi brand is the fit and cool buckles.

You must be joking. I've been using a pair of Sidi's for 4 years now,
they fit me so well that they feel like a 2nd skin when I'm wearing
them.They have been through EVERYTHING and ALL conditions and manners
of riding. I have yet to rip or break anything on the shoes after
thousands of miles of riding them and treating them harshly. They
simply are the best mtb shoe I have ever had the pleasure of using and
abusing.

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Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221. That thing has
got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a heavy rubber sole that will
last quite a while.

I see it differently. I had a pair of Shimano's, took me about 2
months of riding before they fell apart on me. I still have another
pair of Shimano's that I use when I want to take easy/local rides, but
I would never use them as my daily riding shoe.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

Nope, no joke here. I sold cycling shoes for 18 months when I worked at
Supergo, and Sidi shoes just do not hold up well against abuse. I'm
surprised yours have lasted you 4 years... sounds like you got your money's
worth (seeing as how they cost twice as much as any other comparable shoe).
I could see you getting 4 years out of a Sidi road shoe, if it's taken care
of... but MTB? You must have a much more forgiving terrain where you live.

Don't get me wrong, Sidi makes a decent shoe, but I stand firm on my
statement that they are built more for fit and "gee whiz" buckles than for
durability. Lorica holds its own against other synthetics for sure, but
Sidi construction is thin, single-stitched, and has no added layers of
reinforcement at the toe or sides to protect against rocks.

Also note that I didn't recommend just any Shimano model, but specifically
the M221. I happen to think their lower end shoes are quite prone to early
failures as you describe.

In the end, it boils down to how hard you are on your equipment.

John M

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Nope, no joke here. I sold cycling shoes for 18 months when I worked at
Supergo, and Sidi shoes just do not hold up well against abuse. I'm
surprised yours have lasted you 4 years... sounds like you got your

money's

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worth (seeing as how they cost twice as much as any other comparable

shoe).

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I could see you getting 4 years out of a Sidi road shoe, if it's taken

care

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of... but MTB? You must have a much more forgiving terrain where you

live.

No, its not a much more forgiving terrain. Have you ever ridden in PA or NJ
or upstate NY? Try it sometime, its pretty rocky, rooty, often muddy and
very abusive and ALWAYS technical. You want to talk road shoes? I've also
been riding a pair of Sidi's on the road for 5 years now...

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Don't get me wrong, Sidi makes a decent shoe, but I stand firm on my
statement that they are built more for fit and "gee whiz" buckles than for
durability. Lorica holds its own against other synthetics for sure, but
Sidi construction is thin, single-stitched, and has no added layers of
reinforcement at the toe or sides to protect against rocks.

Also note that I didn't recommend just any Shimano model, but specifically
the M221. I happen to think their lower end shoes are quite prone to

early

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failures as you describe.

In the end, it boils down to how hard you are on your equipment.

I consider myself to be fairly harsh on all my equipment. Shoes don't
usually last me this long.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

John Morgan said:

MattB said:

Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of shoes in less
then a year. Does anybody have recommendations for something that
will last? I ride three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs.
I have Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on one side
and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you tried those?

Matt

LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT that
durable. They have decent soles, but I wouldn't say they are that
great. The selling point of the Sidi brand is the fit and cool
buckles.

Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221. That thing
has got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a heavy rubber sole that
will last quite a while.

Heheh, sorry Matt... but you probably just don't abuse your shoes
like Joel does. 😉

John M

I guess I'm just a softie then, or the terrain here is mellower than, uh, I
can't think of anywhere, but probably *somewhere*. So far they've held up
better than the Vittoria, Answer, Northwave, or other shoes I've tried.
Maybe my technique has just gotten so smooth it preserves my shoes...
<shrug>

I do find the buckles pretty irritating and prefer a simple Velcro strap. I
often end up with little Sage twigs jammed into the buckles that make it
very difficult to get the shoes off after a ride. Sometimes it's very
frustrating to wrestle with them when I so badly just want them off after a
long hard ride.

Matt

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Joel Crum wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of shoes in less
> then a year. Does anybody have recommendations for something that
> will last? I ride three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs.
> I have Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
> peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on one side
> and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you tried those?

Matt

Whaddabout when your toe gets poked by sagebrush?

JD

Hasn't happened with the Sidis. It will one day, but so far that's only
happened with several other brands (Mr. Smarty-pants!). The hole is started,
but not all the way through.
I need a shoe with reinforcement by the outside of the pinkie toes, but
nobody seems to make one like that.
I'm also on the start of the third season with these so that's pretty good
for me. I've usually ground all the way through by now.

Matt

I have the cure to that "problem". Shoe goo and a little piece of old
innertube as a patch. Those black Sidis should camoflauge the cheap
fix really well.

JD preserving pinkie toes

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SniffinVinyl said:

So far I am very happy with my Pearl Izumis

Pearl makes some nice high end stuff. Their soles are especially nice
because the I-beam construction is all one solid piece... and the big
rubber lugs are molded into the sole instead of just glued. The upper is
often protected with a nice strip of rubber that goes all the way around
the outside and covers the toe area as well.

John M

I'm running some Diadora Cobras or Habaneros (don't remember which)
and they tend to be holding up just fine. Fairly tough against
sagebrush and cacti. I'm not real tough on shoes, except maybe all
the standing I do on the SS.

paladin

Joel Crum <crumjdathotmail.com> wrote in
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Thanks to everyone who responded. I'll look into your recommendations.
:-)

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- Joel C.

"I'm glad everybody is sorry. I'm sorry, too; it was a sorry incident."
FCC chief Michael Powell