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  1. The second most worthwhile thing you
    can do is forward it:

    "We have been down this road before.

    U.S. troops sent to war half a world away. American foreign policy
    controlled by an arrogant elite, bent on projecting military power
    around the globe. A public misled into supporting an unconstitutional
    war founded on deceit and fabrications.

    As the death toll mounts, we hear claims that the war is nearly won,
    that victory is just around the corner. But victory never arrives.

    As the public loses confidence in the government, the government
    questions the patriotism of any who express doubt about the war.

    When a presidential election arrives, both the Democrat and Republican
    nominees embrace the policy of continued war.

    The military draft comes to dominate the lives of America's young, and
    vast numbers who believe the war to be a senseless blunder are faced
    with fighting a war they do not believe in, or facing exile or prison.

    The year was 1968. Because voters had no choice that November, the
    Vietnam War continued for another six years. Hundreds of thousands of
    Americans like you died, were maimed, or suffered from diseases like
    malaria. A far greater number of Vietnamese died.

    Today, the war is in the quicksands and alleys of Iraq. Once again,
    under the pressure of a determined resistance, we see an American war
    policy being slowly torn apart at the seams, while the candidates urge
    us to "stay the course" in this tragic misadventure. Today's
    Presidential candidates are not Nixon and Humphrey, they are now Bush
    and Kerry.

    Once again, there is one overriding truth: If war is the only choice in
    this election, then war we will have.

    Today enlistments in the Reserves and National Guard are declining. The
    Pentagon is quietly recruiting new members to fill local draft boards,
    as the machinery for drafting a new generation of young Americans is
    being quietly put into place.

    Young Americans need to know that a train is coming, and it could run
    over their generation in the same way that the Vietnam War devastated
    the lives of those who came of age in the sixties.

    I am running for President, and have been against this war from the
    beginning. We must not waste lives in order to control and waste more
    oil. Stand with us and we may yet salvage your future and Americas'
    future from this looming disaster.

    Sincerely,
    Ralph Nader"

    HTTP://WWW.VOTENADER.ORG

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  2. But what bike do you ride dude??...

    "Honest Aryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The second most worthwhile thing you
    can do is forward it:

    "We have been down this road before.

    U.S. troops sent to war half a world away. American foreign policy
    controlled by an arrogant elite, bent on projecting military power
    around the globe. A public misled into supporting an unconstitutional
    war founded on deceit and fabrications.

    As the death toll mounts, we hear claims that the war is nearly won,
    that victory is just around the corner. But victory never arrives.

    As the public loses confidence in the government, the government
    questions the patriotism of any who express doubt about the war.

    When a presidential election arrives, both the Democrat and Republican
    nominees embrace the policy of continued war.

    The military draft comes to dominate the lives of America's young, and
    vast numbers who believe the war to be a senseless blunder are faced
    with fighting a war they do not believe in, or facing exile or prison.

    The year was 1968. Because voters had no choice that November, the
    Vietnam War continued for another six years. Hundreds of thousands of
    Americans like you died, were maimed, or suffered from diseases like
    malaria. A far greater number of Vietnamese died.

    Today, the war is in the quicksands and alleys of Iraq. Once again,
    under the pressure of a determined resistance, we see an American war
    policy being slowly torn apart at the seams, while the candidates urge
    us to "stay the course" in this tragic misadventure. Today's
    Presidential candidates are not Nixon and Humphrey, they are now Bush
    and Kerry.

    Once again, there is one overriding truth: If war is the only choice in
    this election, then war we will have.

    Today enlistments in the Reserves and National Guard are declining. The
    Pentagon is quietly recruiting new members to fill local draft boards,
    as the machinery for drafting a new generation of young Americans is
    being quietly put into place.

    Young Americans need to know that a train is coming, and it could run
    over their generation in the same way that the Vietnam War devastated
    the lives of those who came of age in the sixties.

    I am running for President, and have been against this war from the
    beginning. We must not waste lives in order to control and waste more
    oil. Stand with us and we may yet salvage your future and Americas'
    future from this looming disaster.

    Sincerely,
    Ralph Nader"

    HTTP://WWW.VOTENADER.ORG

    --
    Visit the Cybermuseum of BBC War Crimes at:
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    Admission *FREE* - even for libruls!

  3. When someone called "Honest Aryan" is trolling Usenet to get votes for Nader,
    you just KNOW that the Republicans must be backing his campaign....

    <ducks and runs, pulling on flame-proof undies..>

    <OK - flame -resistant, hopefully>

    Steve ;-)

  4. Doc [censored] asks "Honest Aryan":

    Quoted message said:

    But what bike do you ride dude??...

    A Whyte, of course......

    ;->

  5. Uhh, so where do you stand on aid to Israel? You know... that [censored] little
    country everyone figures is so goddamned important that we should die for it!

    Tell you what, you run on the policy of bombing Bagdad with Bush, Wolfowitz,
    Remsfeld... and I'll be happy to vote for you AND toss them out at 20,000 ft.

    DocWilly said:

    But what bike do you ride dude??...

    "Honest Aryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The second most worthwhile thing you
    can do is forward it:

    "We have been down this road before.

    U.S. troops sent to war half a world away. American foreign policy
    controlled by an arrogant elite, bent on projecting military power
    around the globe. A public misled into supporting an unconstitutional
    war founded on deceit and fabrications.

    As the death toll mounts, we hear claims that the war is nearly won,
    that victory is just around the corner. But victory never arrives.

    As the public loses confidence in the government, the government
    questions the patriotism of any who express doubt about the war.

    When a presidential election arrives, both the Democrat and Republican
    nominees embrace the policy of continued war.

    The military draft comes to dominate the lives of America's young, and
    vast numbers who believe the war to be a senseless blunder are faced
    with fighting a war they do not believe in, or facing exile or prison.

    The year was 1968. Because voters had no choice that November, the
    Vietnam War continued for another six years. Hundreds of thousands of
    Americans like you died, were maimed, or suffered from diseases like
    malaria. A far greater number of Vietnamese died.

    Today, the war is in the quicksands and alleys of Iraq. Once again,
    under the pressure of a determined resistance, we see an American war
    policy being slowly torn apart at the seams, while the candidates urge
    us to "stay the course" in this tragic misadventure. Today's
    Presidential candidates are not Nixon and Humphrey, they are now Bush
    and Kerry.

    Once again, there is one overriding truth: If war is the only choice in
    this election, then war we will have.

    Today enlistments in the Reserves and National Guard are declining. The
    Pentagon is quietly recruiting new members to fill local draft boards,
    as the machinery for drafting a new generation of young Americans is
    being quietly put into place.

    Young Americans need to know that a train is coming, and it could run
    over their generation in the same way that the Vietnam War devastated
    the lives of those who came of age in the sixties.

    I am running for President, and have been against this war from the
    beginning. We must not waste lives in order to control and waste more
    oil. Stand with us and we may yet salvage your future and Americas'
    future from this looming disaster.

    Sincerely,
    Ralph Nader"

    HTTP://WWW.VOTENADER.ORG

    --
    Visit the Cybermuseum of BBC War Crimes at:
    http://users.bluecarrots.com/rbisto/BBC/BBC.html
    Admission *FREE* - even for libruls!

  6. DocWilly said:

    But what bike do you ride dude??...

    Uphill: Melton Mowbray 'Sooper Cheezer'
    Downhill: Lloyd Cole 'Sooper Sopwith' Mk III

    You?

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  7. "Honest Aryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    DocWilly said:

    But what bike do you ride dude??...

    Uphill: Melton Mowbray 'Sooper Cheezer'
    Downhill: Lloyd Cole 'Sooper Sopwith' Mk III

    You?

    --
    Visit the Cybermuseum of BBC War Crimes at:
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    I would like to introduce you to Mike V., he's another fruitcake who posts
    to this group, maybe you two can compare notes and methods on how to try to
    push you views off on people who really don't give a damn what you think.

  8. [censored] off and die a slow death, twice. No pretty please, not even a plain
    please, just the [censored] get it done, now.

    Shaun aRe

  9. [email hidden] (Honest Aryan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
    <snip polispam>

    No way, I want to keep my Corvair.

    JD

  10. [email hidden] (Honest Aryan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    The second most worthwhile thing you
    can do is forward it:


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:


    Sincerely,
    Ralph Nader"

    HTTP://WWW.VOTENADER.ORG

    Thanks for that, Honest Aryan at Central Pets(?)
    Anyway, based on your handle, I though you might be interested to know
    that I've shaved a [censored] moustache into my pubic hair. Does that make
    you horny, baby?

    /scott

  11. All that voting for Nader will do is take votes away from Kerry, making it
    likely that we'll have more years of warmongering [censored] Bush!

    That will NOT stop any war, just cause more of them!

  12. Shaun Rimmer said:

    [censored] off and die a slow death, twice. No pretty please, not even a plain
    please, just the [censored] get it done, now.

    So, when does your unit leave for Iraq?

    http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/pictures033104.html

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  13. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    [censored] got the US into WWI and WWII

    I'd love to hear the chain of "logic" (in quotes because of course it's
    nowhere near logical) that supports that claim.

  14. You mean stear the course up my ass Kerry ?

    "Freedom Fighter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    All that voting for Nader will do is take votes away from Kerry, making it
    likely that we'll have more years of warmongering [censored] Bush!

    That will NOT stop any war, just cause more of them!

  15. "Honest Aryan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun Rimmer said:

    [censored] off and die a slow death, twice. No pretty please, not even a plain
    please, just the [censored] get it done, now.

    So, when does your unit leave for Iraq?

    April 6 2004 ..

    And yours coward ?

  16. And Ralph killed the Corvair. Maybe Nader should have
    died in Nam. But he was a coward just like that guy from Littlerock
    that should have never held any public office. Or why not put
    his dike wife in office and thats why Bill couldn't keep his [censored] in
    Hilery. Let Ralph stay green or I say yellow. In the bushes is
    Jess.

    I MTB 2004

  17. Crazy says:

    Quoted message said:

    But he was a coward just like that guy from Littlerock
    that should have never held any public office.

    Or like the guy we have now who went AWOL for a year?

    No real difference, IMNSHO, they all have problems.
    That said, anyone who actually wants to be president is automatically the wrong
    man for the job.. Think about it.

    Steve

  18. (Jeffrey E. Salzberg) said:

    I'd love to hear the chain of "logic" (in quotes because of course it's
    nowhere near logical) that supports that claim.

    WWI:
    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/benjamin.htm

    " [...]

    While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented
    the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet
    and - I am going to be brief because it's a long story, but I have
    all the documents to prove any statement that I make - they said:
    'Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up.
    You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by
    Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as
    your ally.' The United States was not in the war at that time. We
    were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They told
    England: 'We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war
    as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us
    Palestine after you win the war.'

    [...]"

    WWII:
    Americans were against it so, then as now,
    influential Jews, like Harry Dexter 'White' (Weiss),
    manufactured a causus belli, by maneouvring Japan
    into a war with the US (because of its oil embargo)
    which would automatically involve Germany under
    the terms of the Japan-Germany pact, originally
    signed in 1936 and revived on November 25th. 1941.

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2001/06-04-2001/vo17no12_motives_print.htm

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  19. NY Dark Blue said:

    April 6 2004 ..

    Then, in all seriousness, just one
    question: who/what do you think you'll
    be fighting for?

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  20. In article <[email hidden]>,
    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jeffrey E. Salzberg) said:

    I'd love to hear the chain of "logic" (in quotes because of course it's
    nowhere near logical) that supports that claim.

    WWI:
    http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/benjamin.htm

    " [...]

    While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented
    the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet
    and - I am going to be brief because it's a long story,

    Not to mention a fictional one.

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