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    Lance Involved In Another Lawsuit Italian Set To Sue
    Armstrong For Defamation

    From: Justin Davis, AFP - Sunday, July 11, 2004

    QUIMPER, France - Italian Filippo Simeoni, who is a key
    witness in the trial of Italian sports doctor Michele
    Ferrari, has confirmed his intention to take Lance Armstrong
    to court for defamation here at the Tour de France.

    Simeoni hopes to take the five-time Tour de France winner to
    court over comments made in Le Monde in July of 2003, when
    the American called the current Domina Vacanze rider a
    "liar" in the French newspaper article.

    The Le Monde article quoted Armstrong as saying that Simeoni
    had "lied" when he told investigators it was Ferrari who
    showed him (Simeoni) how to use the banned blood booster EPO
    (erythropoietin) effectively.

    Ferrari, who has infamously claimed that EPO was no more
    harmful than orange juice, is set to go on trial in Italy
    for sports fraud and the distribution of banned substances.

    His trial is expected to be later this year, and the fall
    out from the trial could have negative consequences for the
    image of Armstrong, considered the biggest cycling champion
    of the modern era.

    Armstrong's revelation in 2001 that he had worked with
    Ferrari came as a shock to everyone in cycling, especially
    as it came in the wake of the publication, in GQ magazine,
    of Simeoni's testimony to investigators.

    Simeoni claimed Ferrari had showed him how to take EPO
    without getting caught, although the Italian never accused
    or implicated Armstrong.

    Less than a year later, in March 2002 - after Armstrong's
    links with Ferrari had become public knowledge - the
    American went on Italian television to defend Ferrari.

    In the interview he also refuted Simeoni's claims, saying
    that the Italian rider, who when first interviewed by
    investigators had made no claims about using EPO, could not
    be believed because he had changed his story.

    The issue popped up again, at the Tour de France in 2003
    when Armstrong reiterated in the Le Monde article that
    Simeoni was lying.

    However the Italian, who picked a reduced four-month ban
    by the sport's governing body the UCI for cooperating
    with Ferrari investigators, said he wants to put the
    record straight.

    "He has tried to defend his own image vis-a-vis Ferrari, but
    I've never accused Armstrong personally, I would never do
    that," said Simeoni in a long interview with L'Equipe
    newspaper on Sunday.

    "You know, in some way I admire Armstrong for what he has
    done. I haven't forgotten that he only had a 50 per cent
    chance of living, before he won the Tour (for the first
    time in 1999).

    "But one day, in 'Le Monde', he attacked me again, calling
    me a liar. So, on the advice of my lawyers I am preparing to
    take him to court for defamation. I want him to publicly
    recognise his mistake.

    "It's not a question of money. If I'm awarded money, I'll
    give it to charity."

    Simeoni meanwhile said he is glad to have turned his back
    on doping.

    "By speaking out, it's cleared my conscience, but don't
    believe that it's easy to admit to a judge, to spit it out
    to your friends and your parents that you've taken certain
    substances.

    "I was ashamed, my parents were ashamed and I was on the
    brink of depression. I was scared of everyone, what they
    would say.

    "But the thing that did me the most damage was the attitude
    of Armstrong," added Simeoni referring to Armstrong's
    appearance on Italian television.

    "The meticulously prepared interview he gave to RAI
    (television station) the night before the Milan-San Remo in
    2002 where he accused me of modifying my accusations ... and
    where he described me as someone who couldn't be believed.

    "I was stunned. He arrived at Milan-San Remo and the first
    thing he does is try to drown me. I was in tears. I realised
    that by telling the truth I had turned my back on the most
    powerful rider in the peloton."

    Armstrong has never been sanctioned for any positive
    doping controls.

    The American, who has always denied using EPO, tested
    positive for a banned corticosteroid at his comeback Tour
    de France in 1999, although he was never sanctioned for
    the offence.

  2. Jim Flom said:

    bike.comtemplate.asp
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    Lance Involved In Another Lawsuit Italian Set To Sue
    Armstrong For Defamation

    From: Justin Davis, AFP - Sunday, July 11, 2004

    QUIMPER, France - Italian Filippo Simeoni, who is a
    key witness in the trial of Italian sports doctor
    Michele Ferrari, has confirmed his intention to take
    Lance Armstrong to court for defamation here at the
    Tour de France.


    [snop]

    This is nothing new. Simeoni's been barking about suing
    Lance for quite a while, a year at least.

  3. "Jim Flom"
    <jimflom@=7%2F11%2F2004+9%3A29%3A31+AM&lsectionnumber=1

    Quoted message said:


    Lance Involved In Another Lawsuit Italian Set To Sue
    Armstrong For Defamation

    From: Justin Davis, AFP - Sunday, July 11, 2004


    Not news.

  4. B. Lafferty said:


    It is and will be especially big news if (a) Armstrong
    has to give


    testimony

    Quoted message said:

    and (b) if Armstrong is adjudged to have defamed Simeoni.

    Tool -

    There are Tools in this world who imagine that any bit of
    news that involves Armstrong is Big News.

    Some of these Tools seemingly scour the internet obsessively
    looking for such Big News. He said/she said. Liar, liar
    pants on fire. Very, Very Big News.

    take care and have a nice day,

    K. Gringioni

  5. "Ken Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:C_jIc.59847$IQ4.21165@attbi_s02...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jim Flom"
    <jimflom@=7%2F11%2F2004+9%3A29%3A31+AM&lsectionnumber=1

    Quoted message said:


    Lance Involved In Another Lawsuit Italian Set To Sue
    Armstrong For Defamation

    From: Justin Davis, AFP - Sunday, July 11, 2004


    Not news.

    It is and will be especially big news if (a) Armstrong has
    to give testimony and (b) if Armstrong is adjudged to have
    defamed Simeoni.

  6. "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Ken Papai" <ken@@attbi_s02...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jim Flom" <jimflom@=

    Quoted message said:

    Lance Involved In Another Lawsuit Italian Set To Sue
    Armstrong For Defamation

    From: Justin Davis, AFP - Sunday, July 11, 2004


    Not news.

    It is and will be especially big news if (a) Armstrong
    has to give


    testimony

    Quoted message said:

    and (b) if Armstrong is adjudged to have defamed Simeoni.

    Laugh -- you're wrong. This [censored]'s been going on for almost
    two years now. How is it new?

  7. "Ken Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:6AlIc.58120$a24.54676@attbi_s03...

    Quoted message said:


    "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Ken Papai" <ken@@attbi_s02...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jim Flom" <jimflom@=
    > Lance Involved In Another Lawsuit Italian Set To Sue
    > Armstrong For Defamation
    >
    > From: Justin Davis, AFP - Sunday, July 11, 2004
    >
    Not news.

    It is and will be especially big news if (a) Armstrong
    has to give


    testimony

    Quoted message said:

    and (b) if Armstrong is adjudged to have defamed
    Simeoni.

    Laugh -- you're wrong. This [censored]'s been going on for
    almost two years now. How is it new?

    Kenny, learn to read. I said it's news, not that it's new
    news. Now, Kenny, you may want to call it old news, but it's
    still news.

    Have a nice evening. :-)

  8. "Kurgan Gringioni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:


    It is and will be especially big news if (a) Armstrong
    has to give


    testimony

    Quoted message said:

    and (b) if Armstrong is adjudged to have defamed
    Simeoni.

    Tool -

    There are Tools in this world who imagine that any bit of
    news that involves Armstrong is Big News.

    Some of these Tools seemingly scour the internet
    obsessively looking for such Big News. He said/she said.
    Liar, liar pants on fire. Very, Very Big News.

    That's funny!

    Quoted message said:

    take care and have a nice day,

    K. Gringioni

  9. "Kurgan Gringioni" wrote...

    Quoted message said:


    toolishness snipped

    take care and have a nice day,

    Shut up and kiss me.

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