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  1. Is there something about this year's course that's causing
    all these crashes? Are younger rider's bike handling skills
    not as good? The number of crashes this year seems
    abnormally high.

    The only good news is that Tyler has no broken bones yet.
    Given the number of crashes, I would have figured him for at
    least two :-D

    Roland

  2. wet roads, lots of wind.

    "Roland2k" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there something about this year's course that's causing
    all these crashes? Are younger rider's bike handling
    skills not as good? The number of crashes this year seems
    abnormally high.

    The only good news is that Tyler has no broken bones yet.
    Given the number of crashes, I would have figured him for
    at least two :-D

    Roland

  3. "Roland2k" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there something about this year's course that's causing
    all these crashes? Are younger rider's bike handling
    skills not as good? The number of crashes this year seems
    abnormally high.

    Wets road and diesel film Dave

  4. "Roland2k" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Is there something about this year's course that's causing
    all these crashes? Are younger rider's bike handling
    skills not as good? The number of crashes this year seems
    abnormally high.

    The only good news is that Tyler has no broken bones yet.
    Given the number of crashes, I would have figured him for
    at least two :-D

    In Europe I don't think they have sealed crankcases like
    they do in the USA and there's a lot of oil on the roads. As
    soon as it starts raining it comes out of the rather good
    asphalt roads and turns them into skating rinks. I'll say
    this - ALL of the roads I drove on in France and Switzerland
    were of the quality of the very best roads in California.

  5. Tom Kunich said:


    In Europe I don't think they have sealed crankcases like
    they do in the USA

    Not sure what this means... but there is a lot of oil and
    diesel on French roads.. there are a lot of vehicles that
    run on diesel as it is cheaper than petrol, around $1.10
    per liter rather than $1.30. After a dry period it is
    lethal. The white lines were also painted with non-grippy
    paint until recently and this causes problems for two
    wheeled road users.

    Roads also tend to be flat or hollow rather than convex, or
    even inverse cambers, the Romans figured this one out 2,000
    years ago so I can only assume this is a hang-over from the
    days when the drain/gutter ran down the center of the roads
    in France. The inverse camber thing is done by the highways
    department to slow down drivers on bends but I've been
    caught out once on a bicycle by this. Seems counter
    intuitive to make roads more dangerous.

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David Off said:
    Tom Kunich said:


    In Europe I don't think they have sealed crankcases like
    they do in the USA

    Not sure what this means... but there is a lot of oil and
    diesel on French roads.. there are a lot of vehicles that
    run on diesel as it is cheaper than petrol, around $1.10
    per liter rather than $1.30. After a dry period it is
    lethal. The white lines were also painted with non-grippy
    paint until recently and this causes problems for two
    wheeled road users.

    He's probably referring to EGR valves, but I don't think
    that's been a difference for some time. The big deal is
    that, as you say, diesel is common.

    Gasoline is just as slippery as diesel (I've dumped gas and
    then slipped on it; it's really really slippery) but
    evaporates very rapidly. The half-life of a gas spill is
    minutes. Diesel is less volatile, and like motor oil, will
    happily just sit on the road.

    Quoted message said:

    Roads also tend to be flat or hollow rather than convex,
    or even inverse cambers, the Romans figured this one out
    2,000 years ago so I can only assume this is a hang-over
    from the days when the drain/gutter ran down the center of
    the roads in France. The inverse camber thing is done by
    the highways department to slow down drivers on bends but
    I've been caught out once on a bicycle by this. Seems
    counter intuitive to make roads more dangerous.

    Inverse camber to slow down drivers? Really? Are you sure it
    isn't just an excessively crowned road? that can lead to an
    off-camber in the outside lane.

    If they want to slow down traffic, one of the best ways is
    to paint lines on the road that give the optical illusion of
    narrowness (extra-wide lines at the side of the lane are a
    good one). This slows drivers down before the curve, not by
    pushing them off mid-turn. Yeesh.

    --
    Ryan Cousineau, [email hidden] wiredcola.comwiredcola.com
    President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

  7. one or a couple of stinkers in the publicity caravan
    are enough

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