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  1. Following on from an earlier thread I thought I'd relate the
    results of todays experience of acknowledging other
    cyclists. Luckily for you, dear reader <1>, only a short
    ride due to various aches and pains from yesterdays
    windsurfing shennanigans.

    Cyclist 1: Looked like a utility cyclist and to my discredit
    I didn't speak when I overtook him which made me consider
    the earlier thread and resolve to acknowledge all other
    cyclists regardlesss of appearance.

    Cyclist 2: He overtook me with a "good morning", duly
    acknowledged. Although not a great benchmark the ease with
    which he left me indicated he was a seriously keen rider, so
    1 up for a genuine roadie.

    Cyclist 3: From the other direction appeared Lance, well
    someone decked out from head to toe in UPS gear anyway,
    "Good morning" says I to be greeting with a stare that led
    me to believe he'd just been beamed down and I was the first
    Earthling he'd seen. Surprise or ignorance I don't know but
    the lack of response awards him a -1 to a wannabe.

    Cyclist 4: A young lady pushing a mtb up a hill, "Good
    morning" says I to be rewarded with a warm greeting and a
    smile that could lead me to a divorce so I could spend the
    rest of my life pushing her bike up hills just to see her
    smile. 1 up to nice young ladies.

    Cyclist 5: Mr. Trainers and toe-clips approaching the other
    way on a parked car chicane and passing within a few feet
    (bits of metres). Bless him, it's not his fault I'd turned
    invisible at that point, I went to speak but figured my
    voice coming out of the ether might spook him. -2 to a
    complete bottom.

    Cyclists 6 & 7: Geezer followed by GF by the looks of
    things. "Good afternoon" says I. "Grunt" says Geezer in a
    man meeting man manly manner, not exactly unfriendly, just
    can't be seen to be less than a man. 0.5 to Geezer. "Good
    afternoon" says I to GF. "Hi" says GF with a smile that
    makes me want to push a stick into Geezers rear mech so he
    can push his bike as well as Young Ladys while I enjoy the
    company of Young Lady and GF before SWMBO wonders where I am
    and has me arrested for being a Dirty Old Man. Another point
    to Nice Young Ladies.

    So there you have it folks, proper roadies with nothing to
    prove and young ladies are the friendliest cyclists based on
    my research. (Yeah, I know, the sample was a bit small).

    <1> assuming there is one.

    Pete

  2. Peter B said:

    <1> assuming there is one.

    Hello :-)

    ~PB

  3. Peter B typed:

    Quoted message said:

    the sample was a bit small).

    It's never stopped others jumping to all sorts of
    conclusions .. 😉

    --
    Paul ...

    (8(|) ... Homer Rocks

  4. Quoted message said:

    Cyclist 4: A young lady pushing a mtb up a hill, "Good
    morning" says I to be rewarded with a warm greeting and a
    smile that could lead me to a divorce so I could spend the
    rest of my life pushing her bike up hills just to see her
    smile. 1 up to nice young ladies.

    Yeah. We like nice young ladies. They're very
    motivational 🙂

    I always greet other roadies, although generally I meet
    other roadies who are going in the other direction,
    since the closing speed on roadies going in the same
    direction is low.

    Most of the time, the other guy returns the gesture.

    Recently, however, I've been overtaking other roadies -
    happened three times in the last week. I'm faster, these
    days, and there are more people on the road. In each
    case, I said "hello" or "good afternoon" as I went by and
    got a reply.

    I also greet people on unusual bikes - recumbents, tandems,
    etc - because they clearly have an interest.

    Apart from that, I don't greet. Sometimes because of the
    rider (teenager with a cap on backwards with their heels on
    the pedals and a too-low saddle on a beaten up MTB is
    offputting), but mostly it's just social over-pressure;
    seeing too many people to cope with during the day. I have
    to switch off the most of them. If I lived somewhere where
    there were far fewer people, I'd be much more open to
    greeting strangers.

    --
    Callas

  5. Callas <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cyclist 4: A young lady pushing a mtb up a hill, "Good
    morning" says I to be rewarded with a warm greeting and
    a smile that could lead me to a divorce so I could spend
    the rest of my life pushing her bike up hills just to
    see her smile. 1 up to nice young ladies.

    Yeah. We like nice young ladies. They're very
    motivational 🙂

    I always greet other roadies, although generally I meet
    other roadies who are going in the other direction,
    since the closing speed on roadies going in the same
    direction is low.

    an AUK top seems a good way of getting zero'd by
    _proper_ cyclists.

  6. Peter B:

    Quoted message said:

    So there you have it folks, proper roadies with nothing to
    prove and young ladies are the friendliest cyclists based
    on my research. (Yeah, I know,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    sample was a bit small).

    Yesterday, I saw a young lad, couldn't have been more than
    11-12, on a scaled-down-but-proper road bike and decked out
    in full winter kit (leggings, arms warmers, balaclava,
    overshoes) in Mapei colours (colours being the operative
    word - lots and lots of colours).

    I gave him a nod and a 'good morning', which he returned.
    So, 1 point to kids who appear to have a proper interest
    in cycling.

    d.

  7. davek said:

    Peter B:

    Quoted message said:

    So there you have it folks, proper roadies with nothing
    to prove and young ladies are the friendliest cyclists
    based on my research. (Yeah, I know,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    sample was a bit small).

    Yesterday, I saw a young lad, couldn't have been more than
    11-12, on a scaled-down-but-proper road bike and decked
    out in full winter kit (leggings, arms warmers, balaclava,
    overshoes) in Mapei colours (colours being the operative
    word - lots and lots of colours).

    I gave him a nod and a 'good morning', which he returned.
    So, 1 point to kids who appear to have a proper interest
    in cycling.

    d.

    Last year I overtook a couple of young ladies going up a
    hill; they were wearing racing gear and had expensive bikes.
    As I passed them I gave them a cheerful greeting and got a
    dirty look and the response: "Don't

    'em all.

    Anthony
    --
    Using Linux GNU/Debian - Windows-free zone
    acampbell.org.ukacampbell.org.uk (book reviews and articles)
    Email: replace "www." with "ac@"

  8. Anthony Campbell said:
    davek said:

    Peter B:

    Quoted message said:

    So there you have it folks, proper roadies with nothing
    to prove and young ladies are the friendliest cyclists
    based on my research. (Yeah, I know,

    the

    Quoted message said:

    sample was a bit small).

    Yesterday, I saw a young lad, couldn't have been more than
    11-12, on a scaled-down-but-proper road bike and decked
    out in full winter kit (leggings, arms warmers, balaclava,
    overshoes) in Mapei colours (colours being the operative
    word - lots and lots of colours).

    I gave him a nod and a 'good morning', which he returned.
    So, 1 point to kids who appear to have a proper interest
    in cycling.

    d.

    Last year I overtook a couple of young ladies going up a
    hill; they were wearing racing gear and had expensive
    bikes. As I passed them I gave them a cheerful greeting
    and got a dirty look and the response: "Don't

    Quoted message said:

    'em all.

    Anthony

    I grin (though some may misinterpret this as a grimace of
    absolute suffering I suppose) at other cyclists. As I was
    struggling up a hill which I now call an undulation (things
    have improved in the leg department, wahey!) I got a cheery
    hello from a bloke going the other way (down), in full lycra
    and nice racing bike. That same ride as I was checking my
    map and having a swig of water (ok, I stopped for a few
    minutes for a breather LOL) another chappie - more
    traditional touring setup, no lycra, blend into hedgerows
    colour clothes etc, stopped and asked if I needed any
    help... No, but thanks very much anyway... just working out
    which way to go, said I, with a big grin.

    Most other cyclists on road/touring bikes will smile or
    wave. Mountain bikers seem less prone to this, for some
    reason - do they perceive road bikes as somehow in a
    different leage, not up to the tough off-road muddy
    technical stuff and somehow beneath them? I dunno.

    But the best one ever was one of my early rides last year,
    when I was still really very unfit (rather than mostly
    unfit) - when I caught then passed my first ever cyclists.
    Ok, so the pair of them were going slowly, and the lady on
    her mountain bike particularly so (being dropped by the
    bloke on his lighter faster bike) - but it was a gradual
    uphill climb, and I was surprised at the speed I was
    managing to close the gap by.

    As I cycled past slowly (I'd slowed down quite a bit while
    evaluating whether to actually pass given the incline would
    get steeper) I said hello to let her know I was coming up
    behind, and mentioned she might find it easier in a lower
    gear (it was obviously way too high). Ooh she said, I hadn't
    really thought of that, thankyou. No problem said I, then
    added: you know, when I first started out I couldn't keep up
    with anyone up ahead either, and any sort of uphill killed
    me. Keep at it and you'll find it gets easier faster than
    you think, and don't worry if you can't keep up, just do it
    at your own speed and let him wait for you.

    She gave me a look that said a thousand words about him up
    ahead not waiting for her, and I gave her a big smile, told
    her it really *would* get easier, and cranked up the power
    and spurted past her.

    I get more smiles (though they're probably just laughing at
    FBOB in lycra, it has to be said) from roadies and tourers
    than other cyclists. The shopping cyclists usually give me
    withering stares for some reason, if they see me at all.

    --

    Velvet

  9. Hi, I always say hello. Indeed most of my usergroup
    post start with a salutation of some sort - that's me;
    I'm a nice guy!

    I have found 95% of riders will acknowledge me if I raise my
    hand to them or say a quick "hello" or "morning". Like any
    other walk in life, you're always going to get ignorant gits
    so don't let it get to you. If people choose to ignore me
    then they are obviously so self obsessed that they are
    probably [censored] anyway and so I wouldn't want them to be
    acknowledging me.

    KM

    By the way, good evening everyone...

    "Peter B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Following on from an earlier thread I thought I'd relate
    the results of todays experience of acknowledging other
    cyclists. Luckily for you, dear reader <1>, only a short
    ride due to various aches and pains from


    yesterdays

    Quoted message said:

    windsurfing shennanigans.

    Cyclist 1: Looked like a utility cyclist and to my
    discredit I didn't


    speak

    Quoted message said:

    when I overtook him which made me consider the earlier
    thread and resolve to acknowledge all other cyclists
    regardlesss of appearance.

    Cyclist 2: He overtook me with a "good morning", duly
    acknowledged. Although not a great benchmark the ease with
    which he left me indicated


    he

    Quoted message said:

    was a seriously keen rider, so 1 up for a genuine roadie.

    Cyclist 3: From the other direction appeared Lance, well
    someone decked


    out

    Quoted message said:

    from head to toe in UPS gear anyway, "Good morning" says I
    to be greeting with a stare that led me to believe he'd
    just been beamed down and I was


    the

    Quoted message said:

    first Earthling he'd seen. Surprise or ignorance I don't
    know but the lack of response awards him a -1 to a
    wannabe.

    Cyclist 4: A young lady pushing a mtb up a hill, "Good
    morning" says I to be rewarded with a warm greeting and a
    smile that could lead me to a


    divorce

    Quoted message said:

    so I could spend the rest of my life pushing her bike up
    hills just to


    see

    Quoted message said:

    her smile. 1 up to nice young ladies.

    Cyclist 5: Mr. Trainers and toe-clips approaching the
    other way on a


    parked

    Quoted message said:

    car chicane and passing within a few feet (bits of
    metres). Bless him,


    it's

    Quoted message said:

    not his fault I'd turned invisible at that point, I went
    to speak but figured my voice coming out of the ether
    might spook him. -2 to a complete bottom.

    Cyclists 6 & 7: Geezer followed by GF by the looks of
    things. "Good afternoon" says I. "Grunt" says Geezer in a
    man meeting man manly


    manner,

    Quoted message said:

    not exactly unfriendly, just can't be seen to be less than
    a man. 0.5 to Geezer. "Good afternoon" says I to GF. "Hi"
    says GF with a smile that makes me


    want

    Quoted message said:

    to push a stick into Geezers rear mech so he can push his
    bike as well as Young Ladys while I enjoy the company of
    Young Lady and GF before SWMBO wonders where I am and has
    me arrested for being a Dirty Old Man. Another point to
    Nice Young Ladies.

    So there you have it folks, proper roadies with nothing to
    prove and young ladies are the friendliest cyclists based
    on my research. (Yeah, I know,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    sample was a bit small).

    <1> assuming there is one.

    Pete

  10. "davek" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Peter B:

    Quoted message said:

    So there you have it folks, proper roadies with nothing
    to prove and


    young

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ladies are the friendliest cyclists based on my
    research. (Yeah, I know,


    the

    Quoted message said:

    sample was a bit small).

    Yesterday, I saw a young lad, couldn't have been more than
    11-12, on a scaled-down-but-proper road bike and decked
    out in full winter kit (leggings, arms warmers, balaclava,
    overshoes) in Mapei colours (colours being the operative
    word - lots and lots of colours).

    I gave him a nod and a 'good morning', which he returned.
    So, 1 point to kids who appear to have a proper interest
    in cycling.

    Although maybe a bit lacking in the calendar department?

    --
    Ben

  11. Peter B said:

    Following on from an earlier thread I thought I'd relate
    the results of todays experience of acknowledging other
    cyclists. Luckily for you, dear reader <1>, only a short
    ride due to various aches and pains from yesterdays
    windsurfing shennanigans.

    Hi Peter

    This reminds me of a post of mine from last year.

    <http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3F814BB8> OR:uk.rec.cycling+author:James+author:Hodson&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-
    8&selm=32akkvcrjaq26qqkoq1p11se1u26f9i83k%404ax.com&rnum=1>

    James

  12. Ben:

    Quoted message said:

    Although maybe a bit lacking in the calendar department?

    I thought his attire was a wee bit OTT, but the weather
    on Sunday wasn't exactly seasonal so he can be excused. I
    was in a short-sleeved light summer shirt, vest and
    shorts and was wishing I had worn my long-sleeved thermal
    top and leggings.

    d.

  13. Sue typed:

    Quoted message said:

    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    Peter B typed:

    Quoted message said:

    the sample was a bit small).

    It's never stopped others jumping to all sorts of
    conclusions .. 😉


    Like h*lm*ts, each greeting is good for 1.8 riders, so
    only one of a pair or couple will say hello to you. Except
    pairs/groups of women only, who seem to be all smiles
    anyway (got away from the old grouch for the day?)

    I think we should all follow your example and say hello to
    as many other cyclists as possible, particularly the miserable-
    looking ones.

    .. Engage them in light-hearted banter etc .. 😉

    --
    Paul ...

    (8(|) ... Homer Rocks

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