Sites and locations

"slipstream_242" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hi,

I`m new to all this wild camping stuff and would like
to know if there are any sites that give good
locations to use for wild camping? I live in
Nottinghamshire so would really need to travel (which
isn't a problem) but with this in mind, I wouldn't
know where to start looking other than a specific area
IE lake district, yorkie moors etc.

If anyone could mention names and locations, that
would be ok.

You could try the UK Backpackers Club. IIRC They have a
list of sites etc. Problem is you need to be a member to
get the info:-(

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"slipstream_242" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi,

I`m new to all this wild camping stuff and would like
to know if there are any sites that give good
locations to use for wild camping? I live in
Nottinghamshire so would really need to travel (which
isn't a problem) but with this in mind, I wouldn't
know where to start looking other than a specific area
IE lake district, yorkie moors etc.

If anyone could mention names and locations, that
would be ok.

i thought the idea of *wild* camping was to not use sites
:-/

"slipstream_242" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hi,

I`m new to all this wild camping stuff and would like
to know if there are any sites that give good
locations to use for wild camping? I live in
Nottinghamshire so would really need to travel (which
isn't a problem) but with this in mind, I wouldn't
know where to start looking other than a specific area
IE lake district, yorkie moors etc.

If anyone could mention names and locations, that
would be ok.

An afterthought;-) Best bet, I've found is:

1. Pitch late, leave early.
2. Use common sense.
3. Leave your chosen site as/was.

Personally, I've pitched in some weird and wonderful places
in my time. Using commonsense.
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Tim Jackson said:

I thought he was looking for websites that would tell him
about the locations of wild camp sites.

AIUI a "site" is simply the spot where you pitch a tent,
wild or otherwise. I've "sited" my tent in many good spots
in the wilds.

Is it the case that once you have pitched your tent you have
domesticated the site and hence it is no longer wild?

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In message <[email hidden]>, Paul Saunders
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Martin Richardson said:

Quoted message said:

AIUI a "site" is simply the spot where you pitch a tent,
wild or otherwise. I've "sited" my tent in many good
spots in the wilds.

Is it the case that once you have pitched your tent
you have domesticated the site and hence it is no
longer wild?

No.

Where do people get the idea that the word "site"
means something official and permanent? A site is
merely a location, a place where you put something, in
this case a tent.

A site *can* be permanent, but it doesn't have to be.

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do·mes·ti·cate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (d-mst-kt) tr.v.
do·mes·ti·cat·ed, do·mes·ti·cat·ing, do·mes·ti·cates To
cause to feel comfortable at home; make domestic. To adopt
or make fit for domestic use or life.

To train or adapt (an animal or plant) to live in a
human environment and be of use to humans. To
introduce and accustom (an animal or plant) into
another region; naturalize. To bring down to the level
of the ordinary person.

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Steve Orrell <?@?.?> writes

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I appreciate the tongue-in-cheek possibilities with such a
request but there's a slight but discernible trend toward
flagging/notifying "best sites" for "wild camping".
Site(s)??? Now, I'm sorry but you'll have to forgive me
since I'm not a bona fide camper in the wild, but if you're
asking someone to point out a "wild" camping spot aren't
you really, really, really, absolutely really really
missing the whole point? Just put your basha up and get on
with it!!!! Bluddy jessies!!!

Your best bet is to look for the appropriate symbol on an
OS map, or give up pretending to be a "wild" camper... an
oxymoron if ever I heard one!

I agree.

Circulating information on the best "wild camping" sites is
likely to result in tent ghettos in precisely the places
where they are least desirable.

Surely a sense of uncertainty and adventure is implicit in
the term wild camping? Relying on other people to relieve
you of that uncertainty is missing the point.

Anyone unable to decide on a likely site from the map, and
then to deal with the consequences if turns out to be
unsuitable, should camp on official sites.
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Russ Clare

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The worst is when you give up in the dark and camp in
a really [censored] spot only to find when you wake up the
next morning that there was an excellent spot just 20
yards away!

Did similar to that at the tail end of last summer. The spot
I found in the dark wasn't terrible but in the morning there
was a great spot not 10m away! I went back early this year
with my son and we used the better spot.

Most of my wild camps were in a bivy bag but even with the
Argos 1MPA I still think you can camp comfortably in a lot
more places that people realise. I tend to have a rough area
for where I want to camp and it rarely takes me more than 15
minutes for me to find a reasonable spot when I get there.

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"Chris 159" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"slipstream_242" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Hi,

I`m new to all this wild camping stuff and would
like to know if

there

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

are any sites that give good locations to use for wild
camping? I live

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Nottinghamshire so would really need to travel (which
isn't a problem)

but

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with this in mind, I wouldn't know where to start
looking other than a specific area IE lake district,
yorkie moors etc.

If anyone could mention names and locations, that
would be ok.

i thought the idea of *wild* camping was to not use
sites :-/

I think he's talking about Web Sites IMHO ;-)

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"Craven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"slipstream_242" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Hi,

I`m new to all this wild camping stuff and would
like to know if

there

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

are any sites that give good locations to use for wild
camping? I live

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Nottinghamshire so would really need to travel (which
isn't a problem)

but

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

with this in mind, I wouldn't know where to start
looking other than a specific area IE lake district,
yorkie moors etc.

If anyone could mention names and locations, that
would be ok.

i thought the idea of *wild* camping was to not use
sites :-/

I think he's talking about Web Sites IMHO ;-)

oops! of course <all embarressed now>

its the subject line that threw me 'sites and locations' :-/

Craven wrote on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:04:41 +0100....

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"Chris 159" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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i thought the idea of *wild* camping was to not use
sites :-/

I think he's talking about Web Sites IMHO ;-)

I thought he was looking for websites that would tell him
about the locations of wild camp sites.

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Craven wrote on Sun, 4 Jul 2004 20:04:41 +0100....

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"Chris 159" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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i thought the idea of *wild* camping was to not use
sites :-/

I think he's talking about Web Sites IMHO ;-)

I thought he was looking for websites that would tell him
about the locations of wild camp sites.

Ho, Hum! Well provide the info then;-)
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Tim Jackson said:

I thought he was looking for websites that would tell him
about the locations of wild camp sites.

AIUI a "site" is simply the spot where you pitch a tent,
wild or otherwise. I've "sited" my tent in many good spots
in the wilds.

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"Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Tim Jackson said:

I thought he was looking for websites that would tell
him about the locations of wild camp sites.

AIUI a "site" is simply the spot where you pitch a tent,
wild or otherwise. I've "sited" my tent in many good spots
in the wilds.

Any chance of providing Grid refs to slipstream then :-0
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Craven said:

Any chance of providing Grid refs to slipstream then :-0

Slipstream?

Not in public... Not giving away all my secret sites... ;-)

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Craven said:

Quoted message said:

AIUI a "site" is simply the spot where you pitch a tent,
wild or otherwise. I've "sited" my tent in many good
spots in the wilds.

Any chance of providing Grid refs to slipstream then :-0

I appreciate the tongue-in-cheek possibilities with such a
request but there's a slight but discernible trend toward
flagging/notifying "best sites" for "wild camping".
Site(s)??? Now, I'm sorry but you'll have to forgive me
since I'm not a bona fide camper in the wild, but if you're
asking someone to point out a "wild" camping spot aren't you
really, really, really, absolutely really really missing the
whole point? Just put your basha up and get on with it!!!!
Bluddy jessies!!!

Your best bet is to look for the appropriate symbol on an OS
map, or give up pretending to be a "wild" camper... an
oxymoron if ever I heard one!

SteveO

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Martin Richardson said:

Quoted message said:

AIUI a "site" is simply the spot where you pitch a tent,
wild or otherwise. I've "sited" my tent in many good
spots in the wilds.

Is it the case that once you have pitched your tent you
have domesticated the site and hence it is no longer wild?

No.

Where do people get the idea that the word "site"
means something official and permanent? A site is
merely a location, a place where you put something, in
this case a tent.

A site *can* be permanent, but it doesn't have to be.

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The place where a structure or group of structures was, is,
or is to be located.

A place; a location.

Physical position in relation to the surroundings.

Also;

A place fitted or chosen for any certain permanent use or
occupation

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"Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Craven said:

Any chance of providing Grid refs to slipstream then :-0

Slipstream?

Not in public... Not giving away all my secret
sites... ;-)

Slipstream. The original poster! I've sent him an excel
sheet with all my Grid refs. He's still downloading it ;-0

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Steve Orrell said:

I appreciate the tongue-in-cheek possibilities with such a
request but there's a slight but discernible trend toward
flagging/notifying "best sites" for "wild camping".
Site(s)???

Locations.

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Now, I'm sorry but you'll have to forgive me since I'm not
a bona fide camper in the wild, but if you're asking
someone to point out a "wild" camping spot aren't you
really, really, really, absolutely really really missing
the whole point? Just put your basha up and get on with
it!!!! Bluddy jessies!!!

Yeah of course, up to a point. But you can't deny that there
are some good locations to pitch a tent and some bad ones.
Depending on the terrain, some wild areas offer countless
opportunites for pitching a tent. In others (heather, rocks,
bogs, very steep ground) it can be very difficult to find a
good spot.

If you are using a bivi or basha then the opportunities are
much greater. A tent requires reasonably flat ground with a
decent surface
(i.e. dry grass with enough soil to stick the pegs in). A
small tent
(i.f. the Argos 1 man) can fit into small nooks and
crannies, a larger tent (i.e. the Nallo 2) requires a
larger patch of flat ground, so it's more difficult to
find a decent site for that.

There's a valley in the Beacons that has very steep slopes
all the way down, yet at one point there's a perfectly flat
patch of dry ground right next to the river, large enough to
pitch four or five tents. It's the only flat bit in the
entire valley. Nowhere else could you pitch a tent around
there unless you like pitching on 30 degree slopes. Now
that's what I call a good wild camp site.

And I'm not going to tell you where it is either...

And it's not the one you're thinking of Chris. :-)

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Paul Saunders said:

Steve Orrell said:

sites" for "wild camping". Site(s)???

Locations.

you missed two off; locations, locations! ;-)

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point? Just put your basha up and get on with it!!!!
Bluddy jessies!!!

Yeah of course, up to a point. But you can't deny that
there are some good locations to pitch a tent and some bad
ones. Depending on the terrain, some wild areas offer
countless opportunites for pitching a tent. In others
(heather, rocks, bogs, very steep ground) it can be very
difficult to find a good spot.

I think where I was coming from implicitly acknowledges your
point Paul (although only I knew that ;-) and I see that as
part of the draw, part of the challenge. I was just
questioning the tack seemingly being favoured by "others" in
looking to go "wild camping" but pitching up according to
someone else's list... might as well just look in Camp Sites
in Britain - Appendix W ;-)

Don't get me wrong I'm not berating anyone who does that,
just having a friendly jibe at their expense

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There's a valley in the Beacons that has very steep slopes
all the way down, yet at one point there's a perfectly flat
patch of dry ground right next to the river, large enough
to pitch four or five tents. It's the only flat bit in the
entire valley.

QED: the challenge is to enjoy finding such places, no?

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And I'm not going to tell you where it is either...

Gimme a map, I'll find it ;-)

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