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  1. I was curious, so I did a SamSpade lookup and found this:

    Server Used: [ whois.godaddy.com ]

    pillsupplier.compillsupplier.com = [ 67.15.38.23 ] Registrant:
    Domains by Proxy Inc. Registered through: GoDaddy.com
    Domain Name: PILLSUPPLIER.COM Domain servers in listed
    order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM For
    complete domain details go to:

    but domain details are not available.

    I then used SamSpade tools, and pinged it:

    07/03/04 09:31:49 ping PILLSUPPLIER.COM Ping failed,
    no such host

    most interesting...why go through such lengths to conceal
    their identity?

    Their site does not have any street address, phone number,
    etc. to contact them.

    Anyone who deals with such a company is, IMNSHO, a fool.

  2. Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite
    160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name:
    PILLSUPPLIER.COM Created on: 08-Sep-03 Expires on: 08-Sep-
    04 Last Updated on: 06-May-04

    Administrative Contact: Private, Registration
    [email hidden] Domains by Proxy,
    Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale,
    Arizona 85260 United States
    (480) 624-2599 Fax -- Technical Contact: Private,
    Registration
    [email hidden] Domains by
    Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
    PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States
    (481) 624-2599 Fax --

    Domain servers in listed order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
    NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
    =============================

    IP Address...........................................

    --- performing WHOIS on "67.15.38.23", please wait...

    --- contacting server whois.arin.net

    --- smart query on "67.15.38"

    OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc.

    OrgID: EVRY

    Address: 2600 Southwest Freeway

    Address: Suite 500

    City: Houston

    StateProv: TX

    PostalCode: 77098

    Country: US

    NetRange: 67.15.0.0 - 67.15.111.255

    CIDR: 67.15.0.0/18, 67.15.64.0/19, 67.15.96.0/20

    NetName: EVRY-BLK-15

    NetHandle: NET-67-15-0-0-1

    Parent: NET-67-0-0-0-0

    NetType: Direct Allocation

    NameServer: NS1.EV1.NET

    NameServer: NS2.EV1.NET

    Comment:

    RegDate: 2004-02-06

    Updated: 2004-04-07

    TechHandle: RW172-ARIN

    TechName: Williams, Randy

    TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400

    TechEmail: [email hidden]

    OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE477-ARIN

    OrgAbuseName: ABUSE

    OrgAbusePhone: +1-713-400-5400

    OrgAbuseEmail: [email hidden]

    OrgNOCHandle: NOC1445-ARIN

    OrgNOCName: NOC

    OrgNOCPhone: +1-713-400-5400

    OrgNOCEmail: [email hidden]

    OrgTechHandle: RW172-ARIN

    OrgTechName: Williams, Randy

    OrgTechPhone: +1-713-400-5400

    OrgTechEmail: [email hidden]

    OrgTechHandle: VST3-ARIN

    OrgTechName: Stinson, Valarie

    OrgTechPhone: +1-713-400-5400

    OrgTechEmail: [email hidden]

    # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-07-02 19:10

    # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS
    # database.

    --- connection closed

    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 2, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t
    [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was curious, so I did a SamSpade lookup and found this:

    Server Used: [ whois.godaddy.com ]

    pillsupplier.compillsupplier.com = [ 67.15.38.23 ]
    Registrant: Domains by Proxy Inc. Registered through:
    GoDaddy.com Domain Name: PILLSUPPLIER.COM Domain servers
    in listed order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
    For complete domain details go to:

    but domain details are not available.

    I then used SamSpade tools, and pinged it:

    07/03/04 09:31:49 ping PILLSUPPLIER.COM Ping failed, no
    such host

    most interesting...why go through such lengths to conceal
    their identity?

    Their site does not have any street address, phone number,
    etc. to contact them.

    Anyone who deals with such a company is, IMNSHO, a fool.

  3. These guys are good at hiding.

    I hope that everyone, altie and real, can agree that any
    outfit that goes to the lengths that they do is up to no
    good and should not be supported.

    "Coleah" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:kKzFc.19394$Oq2.14310@attbi_s52...

    Quoted message said:

    Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd.,
    Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com Domain Name:
    PILLSUPPLIER.COM Created on: 08-Sep-03 Expires on: 08-Sep-
    04 Last Updated on: 06-May-04

    Administrative Contact: Private, Registration
    [email hidden] Domains by Proxy,
    Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale,
    Arizona 85260 United States
    (480) 624-2599 Fax -- Technical Contact: Private,
    Registration
    [email hidden] Domains by
    Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
    PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States
    (480) 624-2599 Fax --

    Domain servers in listed order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
    NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
    =============================

    IP Address...........................................

    --- performing WHOIS on "67.15.38.23", please wait...

    --- contacting server whois.arin.net

    --- smart query on "67.15.38"

    OrgName: Everyones Internet, Inc.

    OrgID: EVRY

    Address: 2600 Southwest Freeway

    Address: Suite 500

    City: Houston

    StateProv: TX

    PostalCode: 77098

    Country: US

    NetRange: 67.15.0.0 - 67.15.111.255

    CIDR: 67.15.0.0/18, 67.15.64.0/19, 67.15.96.0/20

    NetName: EVRY-BLK-15

    NetHandle: NET-67-15-0-0-1

    Parent: NET-67-0-0-0-0

    NetType: Direct Allocation

    NameServer: NS1.EV1.NET

    NameServer: NS2.EV1.NET

    Comment:

    RegDate: 2004-02-06

    Updated: 2004-04-07

    TechHandle: RW172-ARIN

    TechName: Williams, Randy

    TechPhone: +1-713-400-5400

    TechEmail: [email hidden]

    OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE477-ARIN

    OrgAbuseName: ABUSE

    OrgAbusePhone: +1-713-400-5400

    OrgAbuseEmail: [email hidden]

    OrgNOCHandle: NOC1445-ARIN

    OrgNOCName: NOC

    OrgNOCPhone: +1-713-400-5400

    OrgNOCEmail: [email hidden]

    OrgTechHandle: RW172-ARIN

    OrgTechName: Williams, Randy

    OrgTechPhone: +1-713-400-5400

    OrgTechEmail: [email hidden]

    OrgTechHandle: VST3-ARIN

    OrgTechName: Stinson, Valarie

    OrgTechPhone: +1-713-400-5400

    OrgTechEmail: [email hidden]

    # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2004-07-02 19:10

    # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS
    # database.

    --- connection closed

    "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 2, 2004" <M.a.r.k
    P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was curious, so I did a SamSpade lookup and
    found this:

    Server Used: [ whois.godaddy.com ]

    pillsupplier.compillsupplier.com = [ 67.15.38.23 ]
    Registrant: Domains by Proxy Inc. Registered through:
    GoDaddy.com Domain Name: PILLSUPPLIER.COM Domain
    servers in listed order: NS.PILLSUPPLIER.COM
    NSX.PILLSUPPLIER.COM For complete domain details go to:

    but domain details are not available.

    I then used SamSpade tools, and pinged it:

    07/03/04 09:31:49 ping PILLSUPPLIER.COM Ping failed, no
    such host

    most interesting...why go through such lengths to
    conceal their


    identity?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Their site does not have any street address, phone
    number, etc. to


    contact

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    them.

    Anyone who deals with such a company is, IMNSHO, a fool.


  4. expertlaw.comonline pharmacy.html

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  5. "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-July 2, 2004" <M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t [email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    These guys are good at hiding.

    I hope that everyone, altie and real, can agree that any
    outfit that goes to the lengths that they do is up to no
    good and should not be supported.

    privacyrights.orgPharmacyPrivacy.htm

    This online pharmacy was reported by this study:

    Study Finds No Privacy Rights at Many Online Pharmacies By
    Mark Hochhauser, Ph.D. Readability Consultant 3344 Scott
    Avenue North Golden Valley, MN 55422 Phone: 763-521-4672
    Fax: 763-521-5069 E-mail: [email hidden]

    Posted on web site of Privacy Rights Clearinghouse,
    www.privacyrights.org

    June 29, 2004 Summary

    Visits to 50 online US pharmacies in mid-April 2004 found
    only 9 (18%) with HIPAA Privacy Notices, 15 (30%) with
    website privacy notices, and 7 (14%) with both p\rivacy
    notices for their customers. Five (10%) were certified by
    VIPPS (Verified Internet Pharmacy Practice Sites) through
    the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy
    (www.nabp.net/index.asp). Privacy Missing from Most Online
    Pharmacy Reports

    Although the Federal Trade Commission's (FTC) 1999
    Congressional testimony identified several problems with
    online pharmacies, privacy was not one of them. Issues of
    online privacy—and spam—were not the important customer or
    regulatory issues that they are now.
    (www.ftc.gobv/opa/1999/07/pharma.htm) However, online
    pharmacy privacy issues were raised in the FTC's July 2000
    report, which found several online pharmacies not adhering
    to their privacy and confidentiality assurances
    (www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/07/iog.htm). Pharmacy owners were
    prohibited by the FTC from: "selling, renting, leasing,
    transferring or disclosing the personal information that was
    collected from their customers without express authorization
    from the customer." In addition, the FTC required the
    defendants to post a privacy policy describing the personal
    identifying information they collected and used, and how
    their customers could access, review, modify or delete their
    personal information. Four years after that FTC settlement,
    most online pharmacies still don't meet these privacy policy
    criteria. A 2000 article in FDA Consumer
    (www.fda/gov/fdac/features/2000/100_online.html) identified
    problems such as sites outside the USA selling unapproved
    products, or not requiring contact with a physician or a
    prescription. But the article did not address privacy
    issues. (Although I assume that the online pharmacy sites I
    reviewed were in the United States, many may have been
    located outside the country. However, since most did not
    have a postal address or phone number, I had no way of
    determining their actual location.) The FDA's 2001 "Buying
    Prescription Medicines Online: A Consumer Safety Guide"
    (www.fda.gov/cder/drug/consumer/buyonline.guide.htm) noted
    the "lack of assurance of confidentiality and security
    issues" as a potential risk. FDA recommended that consumers
    "Look for easy-to-find and understand privacy and security
    policies," and that consumers should not "provide any
    personally identifiable information (social security number,
    credit card, and health history) unless you are confident
    that the site will protect them. Make sure the site does not
    share your information with others without your permission."
    But another FDA guide, "Buying Medicine and Medical Products
    Online," says nothing about consumer privacy.
    (www.fda.gov/buyonline/default.htm) In a March 2004 press
    release, "Drugstore.com Warns Against the Growing Dangers of
    Pharmacies Outside US.; Consumers Urged to Seek the VIPPS
    Seal of Approval before Buying Prescriptions Online," the
    company warned that buying from online pharmacies "…could
    seriously increase the risk of receiving counterfeit
    medicine, incorrect dosages, improperly stored medications,
    or expired, contaminated or recalled medications. In
    addition, consumers patronizing overseas pharmacies may be
    unaware that their private medical information is not
    protected by the strict HIPAA regulations that govern
    privacy of both paper-based and electronic medical
    information in the U.S." (home.businesswire.comport
    al/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=
    news_view&newsId=20040330006008&newsLang=en) Privacy,
    Business, and Spam

    While a November 2003 article in Business Week analyzed the
    future business possibilities of online pharmacies, it did
    not mention privacy issues and their business implications.
    (businessweek.comtc2
    0031125_2272_tc136.htm) A January 2004 Associated Press
    report listed the 10 most common spam topics as reported by
    America Online. Number 1 was spam for drugs such

    pharmacies. Since you have to buy the drugs at a pharmacy,
    these are essentially the same ads. If you buy from an
    online pharmacy, is your identifying information sold to
    drug or other online pharmacy spammers? Are you at risk for
    identity theft? Without privacy notices, customers have no
    way of knowing how their personal, financial, and health
    information is being used — and misused. (crn.co-crn.co-
    m/sections/BreakingNews/dailyarchives.asp?

    Online Pharmacy Privacy Practices Online pharmacies with no
    privacy protection

    24. pillsupplier.com was not compliant

    HIPAA Notice? NO Privacy Notice? NO VIPPS Certification? NO

    So, it wasn't me that found that they offered no privacy
    protection. It was as researcher in Minnesota.

    Terry

  6. WARNINING!!!! --- ONLINE PHARMACIES CAN BE DANGEROUS TO
    YOUR HEALTH

    journalnow.comSatellite
    MGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031776480752&-
    path=!business&s=1037645507703

    Sunday, July 4, 2004 A Hard Dose Customers of online
    pharmacies are warned of scams involving fake or
    harmful drugs

    By M. Paul Jackson JOURNAL REPORTER

    Kristi Vlahos, a pharmacist at the Jonestown Pharmacy in Winston-
    Salem, is used to seeing scams come across her counter.

    The last one, an advertisement faxed to her pharmacy,
    advertised a birth-control patch. The patch, which is worn
    on a patients' body, functions much like a birth-control
    pill and can control a woman's ovulation cycle.

    But if a patient orders the medication - available over the
    Internet from an offshore drug retailer - the package
    usually contains no medication, leaving patients tricked
    into buying a worthless product, Vlahos said.

    "You have to be absolutely positive" about ordering drugs
    online, she said. "Anybody can make a Web site and send out
    a bunch of spam."

    Vlahos isn't the only person warning customers about online
    drug scams.

    As more and more consumers turn to the Internet to do their
    shopping, a host of online pharmaceutical scams are leaving
    more patients at risk of receiving possibly dangerous drugs,
    officials say.

    According to the U.S. General Accounting Office, drugs
    bought online from other countries - including Argentina,
    Spain, Thailand, Pakistan and Turkey - are more likely to
    contain harmful substances or inadequate instructions than
    those purchased in the United States or Canada. Last month,
    the GAO released a study about online drug sales.

    Kristi Vlahos' husband Ike, a co-owner of the pharmacy,
    agreed. Internet scams "are all over the place," he said.
    "It's a risk out there that people don't really realize."

    The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services has begun
    sending informational fliers to drugstores, warning
    customers that the drugs they purchase online might be fake
    or have dangerous side effects. Vlahos received her warning
    fliers about a month ago, she said.

    Online pharmaceutical shopping is nothing new. Customers
    began turning to the Internet for drugs in the late 1990s.
    The service allows customers to shop virtually around the
    clock and easily compare prices from multiple outlets.
    Because online drugstores have less overhead, prices are
    typically cheaper.

    About 9 million people bought or refilled a drug
    prescription over the Internet last year, according to
    Manhattan Research, a health-care marketing research company
    in New York. Overall, about 26 million people used the
    Internet for drug information in 2003, more than double the
    amount that did so in 2002, according to the company.

    Some online-dedicated companies do charge less than the
    national drug outlets' online service.

    CVS.com, the drug retailer's online service, sells a 20-mg
    bottle of Cialis for about $66 for 6 tablets - about $11
    a pill. In contrast, Cutprice12.com, an online drug
    retailer, sells the same drug for about $9

    Similarly, Eckerd.com offers a 25-mg prescription of Vioxx,
    a popular medication for arthritis, for about $268 for 100
    pills. Cutprice12.com offers 120 pills for about $150,
    according to the site.

    Cutprice12.com, whose ads can frequently show up in a
    consumer's e-mail inbox, does not require a prescription
    from a doctor.

    Under federal law, it is illegal to dispense prescription
    drugs without a valid prescription and to ship drugs that
    are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration

    In the GAO study, federal officials ordered about 11
    drugs from 68 Web sites, including overseas, U.S. and
    Canadian sites.

    About 24 national and 21 foreign Web sites did not require
    prescriptions, and none of the foreign sites included
    pharmacy labels instructing customers about proper use of
    their medications, according to the agency. About six orders
    were never even received despite prepayment.

    "It's a 'buyer beware' situation," said David Work, the
    executive director of the N.C. Board of Pharmacy, which
    investigates cases of online drug fraud.

    "As people get more and more comfortable on the Internet,
    this kind of thing could increase,"he said. "I don't
    think the public realizes how much they depend on
    prescription drugs."

    Others agreed. Mike Blankenship, a pharmacist at Andrews
    Pharmacy in Winston-Salem, said that some consumers can be
    tricked into ordering products that contain no medication,
    such as a scam involving Lipitor, a drug for managing
    cholesterol. For many patients, buying drugs online is
    similar to using tobacco, Blankenship said. "They know it's
    not the absolute best thing in the world, but they're using
    it anyway."

    To be sure, online-pharmacy companies do represent growing
    competition for the traditional brick-and-mortar pharmacy.
    Apart from lower prices, buying drugs online is also
    convenient, especially for patients in rural areas who may
    have limited access to pharmacies, said Erika Fishman, a
    company senior analyst for Manhattan Research.

    Online sales are increasing "because consumers are taking
    advantage of international markets," Fishman said.

    Ironically, those are the markets that seem to be scamming
    customers the most. Joyce Tipton, the assistant director of
    pharmacy for Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center,
    said that some online drugstores are legitimate, but she
    warned consumers that many others are not.

    "There's no guarantee they may be getting the real
    drug," she said.

    The National Association of Boards of Pharmacy maintains a
    certified list of licensed pharmacies, called the Verified
    Internet Pharmacies List, that legally sell drugs online.
    That list is available on the association's Web site.

    Work also suggested that the federal government begin
    to punish shipping companies who willingly deliver
    illegal drugs.

    But if the online drugs are cheaper, can the industry expect
    a halt to the practice? Work says no.

    He acknowledged that shoppers can save money online, but
    cautioned that the savings are not worth the risk.

    "We're approaching this from a health and safety issue," he
    said, "and in this case, it is definitely a safety issue."

    M. Paul Jackson can be reached at 727-7473 or at
    [email hidden]

    [email hidden] (Terry Polevoy) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

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    acy.html

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  7. "Terry Polevoy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    WARNINING!!!! --- ONLINE PHARMACIES CAN BE DANGEROUS TO
    YOUR HEALTH


    journalnow.comSatellite
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    Even Hulda Clark and Jan Drew should be concerned with this.

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