let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
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Gadzuks Juergen! How do you steer?
Hi Nomad,
I must admit, there is no handlebar. But it is not necessary because the python is steered by feet. This needs some learning (about 1 week) but then it works fine ...
That is the coolest, weeeeeerdest thing I've seen in a while. I imagine there will be some folks over here happy to cut up some junkers and try that design. If I could weld, I might try.
Very COOL! Can you tell us a little more about riding it? How do you start, stop, turn, etc...
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
Great design! And great to see some new(?) thoughts. I might try to copy the design for my next project - do you feel safe in traffic on the python? I would expect a bit of anxiety going fast downhill.
Can I -please- use the photos on www.hpv-klub.dk ?
Regards, Torben
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
Looks pretty cool, but a little lacking in room between the 'nads and the front tire. "juergen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
If you build it, I would be interested on how you make out.
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Great design! And great to see some new(?) thoughts. I might try to copy
the
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design for my next project - do you feel safe in traffic on the python? I would expect a bit of anxiety going fast downhill.
Can I -please- use the photos on www.hpv-klub.dk ?
Regards, Torben
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
Very cool. I think you could be really on to something here.
What is the rubber flap, on the articulation part of the bike for?
Why do you have the bolt through the rubber for, (looks like folded up inner tubes), is that for suspension?
Rob.
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
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Yeah, agree it's cool.
If you build it, I would be interested on how you make out.
I'll post experiences here, if I choose to build it. I'm torn between building a Zephyr lowracer using parts from my old DF racer (ancient Dura Ace components - 7400 series), and the Python, which would be a fun and challenging project.
Juergen very interesting bent design, 1st time I saw the python page I only saw the CAD and did not notice the link to the photos. Once I saw the pics the CAD made more sense. (forgive this OT)...but being an architecture groupie...what is the building in the background? ----------------------------------------- "Torben Scheel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Great design! And great to see some new(?) thoughts. I might try to copy
the
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design for my next project - do you feel safe in traffic on the python? I would expect a bit of anxiety going fast downhill.
Can I -please- use the photos on www.hpv-klub.dk ?
Regards, Torben
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
This steering principle is used also in the original Dutch Flevobike bike, trike and racer. For pics see: ligfiets.netfietsenOpen ↗ Choose Tempelman - Bike, Trike, Racer. Comments are in Dutch language.
Comments say that learning time is 1 to 4 weeks, though some people never learn.
greetings from Holland, leendert prevo --
__________________________________________ -<\\\ leendert | | @ _ goes by bent \\\/ \_ =|=\x/=|=# gaat per ligfiets ____(_)___(_)____________________________ flevobike fifty-fifty
Thanks a lot for all your positive feedback. I am glad that you like the python.
I try to answer your questions:
- yes, the steering joint is simply a bottom bracket, which is welded to the front part. The BB's crankarms are attached to the middle part of the frame by nuts and bolts. By opening them, the python can be split in the middle, which makes storage and transportation easy. - the rubber block which is attached to the BB is not really necessary, but it makes steering smoother and the handling easier. - the rear suspension is done by cut inner tubes with a bolt through, thus the strength can be adjusted. It is similar to a ZOX suspension, but much cheaper. - the python runs stable even going fast downhill. - the building in the background is the old hospital of Erlangen/Germany. Mid 19th century.
This steering principle is used also in the original Dutch Flevobike bike, trike and racer.
That is right. But the ancestor of the python is the airbike (airbike.deairbike.deOpen ↗) and not the flevobike. I rode the airbike for 7 years and wanted to create a lowracer-version of it, firstly because it is faster and secondly because I like to touch the ground with my hands when starting and stopping so that my feet can stay on the pedals. (thirdly maybe picking flowers while riding;-)
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Comments say that learning time is 1 to 4 weeks, though some people never learn.
I guess that riding the python is much easier than the flevobike because it is more stable and the steering is not that agile. The disadvantage of the python is the relatively big turning cycle of 7 meters. The bike loves to go straight ahead...
Great design verrrrrrrrry cool This is certainly one of the most innovative home builts I have ever seen. You ought to make plans available I know I would buy them.
-- Kirt Bowman 24/20 v-rex r-30 vision
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Hi bent-folks,
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
let me introduce an easy-to-build 2x26" center-steered lowrider to you. It took me some time of pre-studies but only 2 weeks of building-time (I did not spent more than 10 bucks for material). The python weighs about 17kg fully equipped, the seat height is 32cm. After some time of learning the center-steering-basics, it is easy to ride and quite fast. I ride it daily - even in the urban traffic.
