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  1. In the real trivia category, TdF prologue pictures:

    Francisco Mancebo: cyclingnews.comtour04.php
    =photos/2004/tour04/prologue/11

    Jose Ivan Gutierrez: grahamwatson.com04tourPro
    010000

    Guess which one is the Spanish road race champion, and which
    is the TT champion.

    I can understand if Gutierrez hasn't ordered his red and
    yellow team skinsuit from Voler yet, but what's Mancebo
    got one for?

    BTW, how about some ups for Gutierrez. Don't think anybody
    mentioned him all day, but he was 3rd, beating McGee, Voigt,
    Ullrich, etc etc.

  2. Benjamin Weiner said:

    In the real trivia category, TdF prologue pictures:

    Francisco Mancebo: cyclingnews.comtour04.php
    id=photos/2004/tour04/prologue/11

    Jose Ivan Gutierrez:http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04tourPro-
    010000

    Guess which one is the Spanish road race champion, and
    which is the TT champion.

    I can understand if Gutierrez hasn't ordered his red and
    yellow team skinsuit from Voler yet, but what's Mancebo
    got one for?

    I'm not sure what the deal with the prologue is, but all the
    national champions wearing their jerseys (that I saw during
    OLN's coverage) were the road race champions; not the time-
    trial champs.

    The only exception was Thor Hushovd, but since he is both
    the current road and time-trial champion, it didn't
    really matter.

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
    at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
    servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay ee
    sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon [for
    word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew double-
    ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  3. "Steven L. Sheffield" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 07/03/2004 08:19 PM, in article 40e76935$1@darkstar,

    Benjamin Weiner said:

    In the real trivia category, TdF prologue pictures:

    Francisco Mancebo: cyclingnews.comtour04.ph
    p?id=photos/2004/tour04/prologue/11

    Jose Ivan Gutierrez:tp://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04tourPro-
    010000

    Guess which one is the Spanish road race champion, and
    which is the TT champion.

    I can understand if Gutierrez hasn't ordered his red and
    yellow team skinsuit from Voler yet, but what's Mancebo
    got one for?

    I'm not sure what the deal with the prologue is, but all
    the national champions wearing their jerseys (that I saw
    during OLN's coverage) were


    the

    Quoted message said:

    road race champions; not the time-trial champs.

    The only exception was Thor Hushovd, but since he is both
    the current road and time-trial champion, it didn't
    really matter.

    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a road
    stage and not an ITT and I guess under some interpretations
    of the rules that is how they sometimes justify allowing
    road champ jerseys worn.

    Quoted message said:

    --
    Steven L. Sheffield stevens at veloworks dot com veloworks
    at worldnet dot ay tea tee dot net bellum pax est libertas
    servitus est ignoratio vis est ess ay ell tea ell ay kay
    ee sea aye tee why you ti ay aitch aitch tee tea pea colon
    [for word] slash [four ward] slash double-you double-yew
    double-ewe dot veloworks dot com [four word] slash

  4. Chris said:


    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a
    road stage and not an ITT and I guess under some
    interpretations of the rules that is how they sometimes
    justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Have you ever seen a *national* TT champion wearing the
    national champ jersey? I haven't. This is not the world
    champ jersey, rules are different.

    Jenko

  5. in article 40e76935$1@darkstar, Benjamin Weiner at [email hidden]
    wrote on 7/3/04 7:19 PM:

    Quoted message said:

    In the real trivia category, TdF prologue pictures:

    Francisco Mancebo: cyclingnews.comtour04.php
    id=photos/2004/tour04/prologue/11

    Jose Ivan Gutierrez:http://grahamwatson.com/gw/imagedocs.nsf/photos/04tourPro-
    010000

    Guess which one is the Spanish road race champion, and
    which is the TT champion.

    I can understand if Gutierrez hasn't ordered his red and
    yellow team skinsuit from Voler yet, but what's Mancebo
    got one for?

    BTW, how about some ups for Gutierrez. Don't think anybody
    mentioned him all day, but he was 3rd, beating McGee,
    Voigt, Ullrich, etc etc.

    This is not the last you will see of him in this race, mark
    my words. (Unless he crashes of course.)

  6. Jenko <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Chris said:


    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a
    road stage and not an ITT and I guess under some
    interpretations of the rules that is how they sometimes
    justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Have you ever seen a *national* TT champion wearing the
    national champ jersey? I haven't. This is not the world
    champ jersey, rules are different.

    Jenko

    The rule is: In stage races the only national champion
    jerseys are those of the road champions and they wear the
    jersey even in the ITT. The the only time a national TT
    champion wears a champions jersey is in a one day time trial
    event like GP Nations.

  7. in article [email hidden], Jenko at [email hidden] wrote
    on 7/4/04 10:07 AM:

    Quoted message said:
    Chris said:


    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a
    road stage and not an ITT and I guess under some
    interpretations of the rules that is how they sometimes
    justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Have you ever seen a *national* TT champion wearing the
    national champ jersey? I haven't. This is not the world
    champ jersey, rules are different.

    Winners of national ITT championships are still REQUIRED -
    not requested, but required, under penalty - to wear their
    jersey in time-trials. But the Prologue is not classified as
    an ITT, it is classified as a Prologue.

    -Sonarrat.

  8. Jenko said:
    Chris said:


    I recall hearing arguments that a prolog is closer to a
    road stage and not an ITT and I guess under some
    interpretations of the rules that is how they sometimes
    justify allowing road champ jerseys worn.

    Have you ever seen a *national* TT champion wearing the
    national champ jersey? I haven't. This is not the world
    champ jersey, rules are different.

    Gordon McCauley.

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