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  1. Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to prepare
    and cook them? I understand that they have a rather delicate
    taste and actually I have had them in Italian dishes
    (thought they were basically tasteless). I have perused the
    artichoke websites, but I am not sure of my own expertise on
    preparing them. In short: Are they really worth the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for some
    recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.

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    [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook them? I understand that they have a
    rather delicate taste and actually I have had them in
    Italian dishes (thought they were basically tasteless). I
    have perused the artichoke websites, but I am not sure of
    my own expertise on preparing them. In short: Are they
    really worth the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.


    Oh yes, yes, yes!! I love artichokes. They're relatively
    simple to prepare, though they do take awhile to cook unless
    you've got a pressure cooker.

    Trim the outer tougher leaves. Lay the artichoke on its side
    and using a sharp knife, cut off the entire top 1/2 " or so.
    I also like to snip off the pointy edge of each leaf with a
    scissor as it removes what is sometimes a sharp pointy edge,
    and also looks prettier for presentation. Cut off the stem
    (but do not discard! It's yummy!)

    Peel the stem and shove it into the center of the artichoke.
    It will take some work getting it opened up, and the stem
    probably won't fit all the way in; no matter.

    For four very large artichokes:

    Take a whole bunch of flat-leaf Italian parsley and chop
    fine; combine with as much minced garlic as you like (I
    use 5 or 6 large cloves). Mix the garlic and parsley;
    season with salt & pepper. Stuff the garlic- parsley
    mixture into each leaf, working over a dish to catch the
    excess. Use it all.

    In a pot large enough to hold all the artichokes, stand them
    upright and add about 1 to 2" of water. Sprinkle olive oil
    and the juice of a whole lemon over the artichokes; throw
    the lemons into the pot and cover tightly. If you're using a
    pressure cooker, they should take 20 minutes or so. If
    you're using a regular pot, it's closer to an hour. You can
    tell they're done when you tug on one of the leaves and it
    comes out easily.

    You can serve them at this point as is. If you like, add a
    tablespoon or two of butter to the cooking water and use it
    as a dipping sauce, or make a hollandaise or simply use
    mayo. I like them just plain.

    A slight variation would be to prepare them as above; cut
    them in half (down, not across); sprinkle with bread crumbs,
    drizzle with olive oil and place under a broiler till the
    bread crumbs are crisp.

    --
    Donna A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist
    hopes they are.

  3. Kswck said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook them? I understand that they have a rather
    delicate taste and actually I have had them in Italian
    dishes (thought they were basically tasteless). I have
    perused the artichoke websites, but I am not sure of my own
    expertise on preparing them. In short: Are they really
    worth the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for some
    recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.

    As the OP of the post I believe you are referring to, the
    Marinated AH's I bought are heavily spiced in oil. Very
    savory. They are the kind of thing that go great on a
    garlic pizza.

    I have never really eaten fresh AH's, just on Pizza, in dips
    (like the cheesy warm bread or cracker dips) and now in a
    salad that I fell in love with.

    There have been tons of great tips so far in the post I
    started. I need to figure out ways to use up this
    wonderfully huge jar of heaven so I can buy another (grin)

    Denise, Brian & Wyatt (May 31, 02)

    A good friend will come and bail you out of jail... A
    true friend will be sitting next to you saying,
    "Damn...that was fun!"

  4. "Kswck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook


    them?

    Quoted message said:

    I understand that they have a rather delicate taste and
    actually I have


    had

    Quoted message said:

    them in Italian dishes (thought they were basically
    tasteless). I have perused the artichoke websites, but I
    am not sure of my own


    expertise

    Quoted message said:

    on preparing them. In short: Are they really worth
    the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.

    Well it's like any other food, really....if you enjoy them,
    they are more than worth the effort. Personally, I love
    artichokes. If you've had them and thought they were
    tasteless, odds are they weren't in season, or they were
    overcooked. The flavor is delicate, yes, but it's definitely
    there. I love them roasted, especially on the grill.
    Marinate them with a nice vinaigrette, then grill until you
    can grip a leaf and pull it out easily. Don't worry if it
    blackens on the edge, that just adds to the taste! ;-) And
    don't forget to eat the heart!

    kimberly

  5. Kswck said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook them? I understand that they have a rather
    delicate taste and actually I have had them in Italian
    dishes (thought they were basically tasteless). I have
    perused the artichoke websites, but I am not sure of my own
    expertise on preparing them. In short: Are they really
    worth the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for some
    recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.


    I really enjoy them, and buy them when the price is
    reasonable. I usually trim them and steam them and eat them
    with a mayo spiked with Bufalo chipotle sauce and lime
    juice. Trimming involves cutting back the more fibrous parts
    of the leaves and peeling the fibrous skin from the stem.
    Steaming involves setting it up in a deep pan with boiling
    water and having at it for about half an hour or 45 minutes.
    I've also done them in a microwave in a covered bowl with a
    little water and some lmon juice. The cooking time is a
    mystery to me. Usually, I zap it 3-4 minutes on high and let
    it sit before repeating the process a couple more times.

    modom

    "If you have a racist friend, Now is the time, now is the
    time For your friendship to end."
    -- The Specials

  6. "Kswck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook


    them?

    Quoted message said:

    I understand that they have a rather delicate taste and
    actually I have


    had

    Quoted message said:

    them in Italian dishes (thought they were basically
    tasteless). I have perused the artichoke websites, but I
    am not sure of my own


    expertise

    Quoted message said:

    on preparing them. In short: Are they really worth
    the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.

    If you mean globe artichokes they are a great vegetable, not
    difficult or complex to cook at all. If the ones you had
    were tasteless something was seriously wrong as they are not
    a bland vegetable. They are generally available in spring
    and can be quite cheap or a bit pricey - depending on where
    you are and the season. They may also be available out of
    season too.

    The most common method of cooking them is to trim them and
    then boil in salted water for about 20-30 minutes, drain and
    then they are ready for stage two. The second stage may be
    as simple as serving them warm (or cold) with a vinigarette
    dressing or fresh egg mayonaise. This is an excellent way to
    appreciate the flavour without much trouble.

    More complex recipes often involve stuffing with savoury
    mixtures (onion, cheese, bacon, tomato, garlic, herbs etc)
    and baking. This style can become a light meal in itself or
    part of a bigger meal or dinner party feast.

    A warning though, if you develop a taste for them there is
    no turning back.

    David

  7. "Kswck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook


    them?

    Quoted message said:

    I understand that they have a rather delicate taste and
    actually I have


    had

    Quoted message said:

    them in Italian dishes (thought they were basically
    tasteless). I have perused the artichoke websites, but I
    am not sure of my own


    expertise

    Quoted message said:

    on preparing them. In short: Are they really worth
    the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.

    You might want to start with the basics, plain steamed
    artichoke and go from there; this website seems to have the
    best simple explanations, and a Google search on "eating
    artichokes" will give you a lot more basics:
    pelicannetwork.netartichokes.cook.htm

    pavane

  8. "Kswck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook them? I understand that they have a
    rather delicate taste and actually I have had them in
    Italian dishes (thought they were basically tasteless). I
    have perused the artichoke websites, but I am not sure of
    my own expertise on preparing them. In short: Are they
    really worth the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.

    I like them. Here's a recipe for an artichoke lasagna I
    posted several years ago. Every now and then I can get
    smallish artichokes ar 3 or 4 for a dollar. When I can, I
    make this. It's incredibly rich, and uses no tomato sauce:

    tinyurl.com2uuer

    -bwg

  9. Hark! I heard "Kswck" <[email hidden]> say:

    Quoted message said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook them? I understand that they have a
    rather delicate taste and actually I have had them in
    Italian dishes (thought they were basically tasteless). I
    have perused the artichoke websites, but I am not sure of
    my own expertise on preparing them. In short: Are they
    really worth the effort?

    I say yes -- my grandparents got me eating them as a
    child, and I love them! My method is to cut the stem so
    the artichoke sits flat, rinse, then plop into a large
    saucepan with enough water to cover. Add some chili
    powder, bring to a boil, reduce heat and simmer for 45-55
    minutes, covered. Drain well, serve with mayonaisse
    seasoned with garlic. Yummy!

    Quoted message said:

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    I don't have any that "feature" them, but here are two dips
    that have artichoke -- I've only tried the first one,
    mighty tasty:

    Artichoke Dip

    1 C. drained, chopped artichoke hearts 1 C. mayonaisse 1 C.
    parmesan 1 can white crab meat

    Mix all thoroughly and spoon into glass casserole dish; bake
    for 30 minutes at 350° F. Serve hot with bread or crackers
    for dipping.

    ++++

    Another Artichoke Dip

    1 C. drained, chopped artichoke hearts 1 C. shredded
    parmesan 1 4 oz. can drained, chopped green chilies ½ C.
    sour cream ½ C. mayonaisse 1 clove garlic, minced 1 can
    white crab meat or shrimp, optional

    Mix all thoroughly and spoon into glass casserole dish; bake
    for 20-25 minutes at 350° F. Serve hot with bread or
    crackers for dipping.

    --
    J.J. in WA (Change COLD to HOT for e-mail) ~ mom, vid
    gamer, novice cook ~ ..fish heads, fish heads, eat
    them up, yum!

  10. Kswck said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook them? I understand that they have a
    rather delicate taste and actually I have had them in
    Italian dishes (thought they were basically tasteless). I
    have perused the artichoke websites, but I am not sure of
    my own expertise on preparing them. In short: Are they
    really worth the effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.

    If you get the Food Network, tonight's Good Eats (7:00pm
    ET/PT) features artichokes.

    ---jkb

    --
    "Damn you, brocolli!"

    -- Stewie Griffin

  11. Kswck said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook


    them?

    I think so, definitly. I'm a convert to home-cooked braised
    baby artichokes. They are heavenly. Store bought marinaded
    artichoke hearts are tasteless in comparison.

    I've modified the below recipe for my own use, removing the
    green onions and bell peppers and subbing chopped yellow
    onion. I then let it all cool and mixed it into a cold penne
    salad with whatever else I had on hand that looked good. But
    here's the original from Bon Appétit magazine:

    2 whole lemons 2 1/2 pounds baby artichokes

    2 tablespoons olive oil 8 green onions, chopped 2 large red
    bell peppers, diced 4 large garlic cloves, minced 1 cup (or
    more) water 2 tablespoons fresh lemon juice 1 tablespoon
    chopped fresh thyme 1 large bay leaf 2 teaspoons finely
    grated lemon peel 2 tablespoons chopped fresh parsley

    Cut 1 lemon in half. Squeeze juice into bowl of cold water;
    add lemon halves. Quarter second lemon. Working with 1
    artichoke at a time, trim off tough outer leaves (about 3
    layers). Cut off 3/4 inch of top; cut off stem. Cut
    artichoke in half lengthwise; rub all cut surfaces with
    lemon quarter to prevent discoloration. Scoop out any choke
    from center. Drop artichoke halves into lemon water.

    Heat oil in large skillet over medium heat. Add green
    onions. Sauté until tender, about 5 minutes. Add bell
    peppers. Sauté until peppers soften, about 3 minutes. Add
    garlic; stir 2 minutes. Drain artichokes and add to skillet.
    Add 1 cup water, 2 tablespoons lemon juice, thyme, bay leaf,
    and lemon peel. Sprinkle with salt and pepper; bring to
    simmer. Cover and simmer until artichokes are tender, adding
    more water by 1/4 cupfuls if mixture is dry and stirring
    occasionally, about 20 minutes. (Can be made 1 day ahead.
    Cover and chill. Rewarm, covered, over low heat, adding more
    water if dry.) Mix in parsley; season with salt and pepper

    --
    -Andrea

  12. byakee said:


    Hark! I heard "Kswck" <[email hidden]> say:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    I don't have any that "feature" them, but here are two
    dips that have artichoke -- I've only tried the first one,
    mighty tasty:

    I love them stuffed ... trim the thorny tips, do the flat
    bottom thing so they don't tip over. Stuff between the
    leaves a mixture of Italian style bread crumbs and parm,
    pour olive oil over them after you set them into enough
    water to steam. Cook until a good sized leaf pulls out
    easily. Serve with melted butter. Yum.

    Don't forget after the leaves are gone, trim the choke and
    eat the heart.

    nancy

  13. "Nexis" <[email hidden]> wrote <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I love them roasted, especially on the grill. Marinate
    them with a nice vinaigrette, then grill until you can
    grip a leaf and pull it out easily.

    Do you grill yours whole, or do you cut them in half?

    --
    -Andrea

  14. thank you

    "Barry Grau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "Kswck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Despite a recent post on artichokes........

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook


    them?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I understand that they have a rather delicate taste and
    actually I have


    had

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    them in Italian dishes (thought they were basically
    tasteless). I have perused the artichoke websites, but I
    am not sure of my own


    expertise

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on preparing them. In short: Are they really worth the
    effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Thank you.

    I like them. Here's a recipe for an artichoke lasagna I
    posted several years ago. Every now and then I can get
    smallish artichokes ar 3 or 4 for a dollar. When I can, I
    make this. It's incredibly rich, and uses no tomato sauce:

    tinyurl.com2uuer

    -bwg

  15. Hark! I heard [email hidden] say:

    Quoted message said:

    Don't forget after the leaves are gone, trim the choke and
    eat the heart.

    Yes, I forgot to mention that, and it's the best part!

    --
    J.J. in WA ~ mom, vid gamer, novice cook ~ ..fish heads,
    fish heads, eat them up, yum! (COLD to HOT for e-mail)

  16. "AndreaS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "Nexis" <[email hidden]> wrote <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    I love them roasted, especially on the grill. Marinate
    them with a nice vinaigrette, then grill until you can
    grip a leaf and pull it out


    easily.

    Quoted message said:


    Do you grill yours whole, or do you cut them in half?

    --
    -Andrea

    I cut them in half and clean out the thistle first.
    Sometimes, if I'm in a hurry or the grill is full, I will
    lightly steam them unti just before their done, then grill
    them the rest of the way. The grilling gives them alot of
    flavor that isn't there when you just steam.

    kimberly

  17. byakee said:


    Hark! I heard [email hidden] say:

    Quoted message said:

    Don't forget after the leaves are gone, trim the choke
    and eat the heart.

    Yes, I forgot to mention that, and it's the best part!

    (laugh!) And I forgot to say, you eat the leaves by putting
    them between your front teeth and scraping off the meat. Do
    not! eat the leaves whole.

    nancy

  18. Quoted message said:

    kswck writes:

    I need some info on them. Are they worth the work to
    prepare and cook them? I understand that they have a
    rather delicate taste and actually I have had them
    (thought they were basically tasteless).

    Quoted message said:

    I have perused the artichoke websites, but I am not sure
    of my own


    expertise

    Quoted message said:

    on preparing them. In short: Are they really worth the
    effort?

    The affirmative being the case, I would be looking for
    some recipes that feature the artichoke.

    Artichoke is essentially vegetarian tofu.

    artichokes.netartichokes.net

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  19. Quoted message said:

    Artichoke is essentially vegetarian tofu.

    as opposed to carnivore tofu?

  20. In article said:


    Quoted message said:

    Artichoke is essentially vegetarian tofu.

    as opposed to carnivore tofu?

    "Carnivorous Tofu". The direct-to-video sequel to "Attack of
    the Killer Tomatoes".

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