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  1. What is recommended, in terms of distance of walking & how
    many times a week, in order to lose a reasonable amount of
    weight in,say 3 months. I'm an X smoker, & an armature weight-
    lifter. I quit smoking 3 yr's ago & have put on about 25-
    30#s, & weight lifting can't seem to combat the weight
    gain?? Might be age? I'm 55, But anyway I want to seriously
    try walking for some weight loss!! Thank You, Ron

  2. R P said:

    What is recommended, in terms of distance of walking &
    how many times a week, in order to lose a reasonable
    amount of weight in,say 3 months. I'm an X smoker, & an
    armature weight-lifter. I quit smoking 3 yr's ago & have
    put on about 25-30#s, & weight lifting can't seem to
    combat the weight gain?? Might be age? I'm 55, But anyway
    I want to seriously try walking for some weight loss!!
    Thank You, Ron

    ron, is .not. age, egad 🙂 at first .i. thought you were
    working on an electric co's shop floor - given the

    Quoted message said:

    armature< reference; then came the so-needed coffee refill


    🙂 though you make no mention of your current ht/wt, what's
    'reasonable'? as for me <a *non*expert> i'd suggest looking
    at diet: what? how much? congrats on throwing away the
    cigarettes - likely replaced them w/food? a most-helpful
    exercize to include could very well be the "pushaway"! as
    for the weights, i'd suggest joining the
    misc.fitness.weights ng. great site for women *and* men ->
    stumptuous.comweights.html from me, of a certain age
    as they say, hth .. and, best wishes .. < walks one hour
    daily / lifts every 2nd day, full body routine .. >
    --
    www.mozilla.org

  3. "R P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    What is recommended, in terms of distance of walking &
    how many times a week, in order to lose a reasonable
    amount of weight in,say 3 months. I'm an X smoker, & an
    armature weight-lifter. I quit smoking 3 yr's ago & have
    put on about 25-30#s, & weight lifting can't seem to
    combat the weight gain?? Might be age? I'm 55, But anyway
    I want to seriously try walking for some weight loss!!
    Thank You, Ron

    To lose weight is simple: eat less and walk more. But, just
    because it's simple doesn't mean that it is easy!

    Some folks recommend walking 10,000 steps per day (roughly 5
    miles). Unfortunately, while exercise is important, it's the
    diet that really matters. Exercise burns a depressingly
    small number of calories compared to what we can eat. So,
    eat less - eat more veggies and less bread, sodas, etc. Eat
    smaller portion sizes. Try for a daily calorie deficit of
    around 500 calories per day. If you can achieve this, you
    will lose about 1 lb per week - a very reasonable and
    healthy rate of weight loss.

    Best of luck.

    GG weightware.comweightware.com Your Weight and Health Diary

  4. Sorry about "armature" ----- supposed to be amateur [but I'm
    sure you knew that] I'm either getting dyslexic,or just
    forgetting how to spell. Anyway, I do "drop-in" on the mf-
    weights site. I'm not convinced it's diet because I do eat
    very healthy,i.e mostly chic-fish,never fried-always
    grilled,broiled or baked,red meat only as a treat,& then low-
    fat, lots of veggies, low- carbs e.t.c. I'm no expert but I
    believe it is mostly due to a change in metabolism/due to
    quitting smoking. Even my Doc say's nicotine does strange
    things to the human body. Conversely a sudden absence of it
    is a different shock altogether. Ron

  5. "R P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Sorry about "armature" ----- supposed to be amateur [but
    I'm sure you knew that] I'm either getting dyslexic,or
    just forgetting how to spell. Anyway, I do "drop-in" on
    the mf-weights site. I'm not convinced it's diet because I
    do eat very healthy,i.e mostly chic-fish,never fried-
    always grilled,broiled or baked,red meat only as a treat,&
    then low-fat, lots of veggies, low- carbs e.t.c. I'm no
    expert but I believe it is mostly due to a change in
    metabolism/due to quitting smoking. Even my Doc say's
    nicotine does strange things to the human body. Conversely
    a sudden absence of it is a different shock altogether.

    I started walking a fixed time, then upped that until it was
    about an hour, then set a fixed distance and tried to cut
    the time back. I was at 5 miles in 50 minutes when the
    asthma kicked up a notch. Now I can occasionally do 4 miles
    in about an hour. (The upside is I've only gotten sore about
    once in the last year when I had a slight remission.)

    It does not matter how "healthy" your diet is, if you take
    in more than you put out you will gain. Recent studies
    that actually show some ability of the Atkins diet to help
    with weight loss show that much of the loss comes from
    reducing calories.

  6. R P said:

    Sorry about "armature" ----- supposed to be amateur [but
    I'm sure you knew that] I'm either getting dyslexic,or
    just forgetting how to spell. Anyway, I do "drop-in" on
    the mf-weights site. I'm not convinced it's diet because
    I do eat very healthy,i.e mostly chic-fish,never fried-
    always grilled,broiled or baked,red meat only as a
    treat,& then low-fat, lots of veggies, low- carbs e.t.c.
    I'm no expert but I believe it is mostly due to a change
    in metabolism/due to quitting smoking. Even my Doc say's
    nicotine does strange things to the human body.
    Conversely a sudden absence of it is a different shock
    altogether. Ron

    yes, hi there ron .. (the cited coffee refill helped a great
    deal ..) iirc < please don't edit quite so intensely > you
    quit cigs 3 yrs past; perhaps i am off-base here, but 3 yrs
    hardly seems = to sudden absence. as to metabolic change:
    previously, nic - subsequently, starches etc (?) no offense
    intended, k?, but it's very easy to rationalize everything -
    whereas buckling down and doing the *work* necessary .is.
    challenging. what are you doing now? one trusts more than
    sitting in front of comp! <btw: if words seem edgy, they
    are! been there, done that, etc etc ..> do post back, and,
    continuing best wishes 🙂
    --
    www.mozilla.org

  7. R P wrote:

    greetings, and thanks for your further response ron -

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    As far as the absence of nicotine,it takes a few years for
    the body to come to grip with the absence of it. After 25
    years of smoking,your metabolism doesn't just switch to a
    nicotine free acceptance.

    excuze me, am _well_ aware of this entire hoop-jumping
    exercize (30 yr). the issue, however, which must be
    addressed is that of substitution - in my case, ymmv, easily
    switched from reaching for a cig to a munchie! so, instead
    of thirty plus 'hits' of nic daily - of course, weight gain.

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    As for "what I do" [currently] alternate day's, weight-
    training one day 40-45min,followed by next day walking,30-
    40min at a "brisk" pace. 5-6 days a week.

    k .. thanks for this, ron .. details do count - we agree?
    again, note the difference: i walk every day and
    weights on alternates. i'd be a bit curious as to your
    weight-training programme/routine; - except that takes
    us into m.f.w. areas - those insights are over there. <
    squats, deadlifts, and presses form the central axis of
    my workout >

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    I do count grass cutting day as a walking day, I have a
    big yard & a walk-behind mower.

    good exercize 🙂 i shop myself out to neighbours w/yards
    (condo here).

    Quoted message said:

    I'm 55,6'1", 255. I try not to eat more than 8oz {max} of
    meat a day [mostly chick & fish] {grilled or baked} little
    or no starch, potatoes,rice e.t.c. allot of
    vegetables,fruit in am with cereal. Low-fat everything,desert-
    once or twice a YEAR.

    is the old story, y'know .. calories in / calories out; no
    quick fix. fyi, over five years, i "lost" more than my
    current & healthy weight. never did subscribe to a fad diet;
    smaller plate/portion (+pushaway). you earlier saw what i do
    as maintenance .. no longer work but a joy!

    Quoted message said:

    When I smoked I maintained about 220-225#s & then my diet
    [although not bad] was not as good as now. I have "worked-
    out" in some fashion since I was a teenager.

    a former track member here (400/800/1500 metres) .. l-o-n-g
    ago, lol .. as a slightly-more-aged peer 🙂, again, look to
    structure, - critically. both in terms of exercize and diet
    - the term 'caloric deficit' applies.

    Quoted message said:

    Ron

    thanks ron - get to it and hang in there 🙂 as anyone else,
    i can only encourage - the doing is entirely up to you.
    ever, best wishes! walking: yesterday, in thick fog; today,
    driving rain .. love it all 🙂
    --
    www.mozilla.org

  8. "Mike Painter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I started walking a fixed time, then upped that until it
    was about an


    hour,

    Quoted message said:

    then set a fixed distance and tried to cut the time back.
    I was at 5 miles in 50 minutes when the asthma kicked up a
    notch. Now I can occasionally do


    4

    Quoted message said:

    miles in about an hour. (The upside is I've only gotten
    sore about once in the last year when I had a slight
    remission.)

    It does not matter how "healthy" your diet is, if you take
    in more than


    you

    Quoted message said:

    put out you will gain. Recent studies that actually show
    some ability of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    Atkins diet to help with weight loss show that much of the
    loss comes from reducing calories.


    I'm curious about the asthma reference. After several (10+)
    years dealing with frequent bronchitis, the doctors tell me
    my problem is asthma. I'm still not completely convinced. I
    have only been to general practitioner. PFT was normal and I
    don't have a lot of problems except for the bouts of
    bronchitis. I am on medicine now and waiting to see if that
    helps. What I was wondering was the effects of walking on
    your asthma. I have always been pretty short of breath, even
    as a child. However that was the only symptom of asthma. The
    doctors can't believe I have never smoked. Anyway, it seems
    that my shortness of breath is not any worse walking 2-3
    miles than walking a few steps. Is this normal? I live in a
    fairly hot area and that is a huge problem for me. Last
    year, I worked myself up to 4-5 miles daily. This year I
    have only made it up to 2-3 miles. My problem is dealing
    with the heat. It seems I can only find time to walk when it
    is hot. Does anyone else with respiratory problems find that
    the shortness of breath levels out and they are able to
    extend their time or distance. Also, I have more breathing
    problems when I'm finished and trying to cool off. I find
    that albuterol helps if used before walking. I am 42, 6',
    230. Anyone else with experiences or tips on walking with
    respiratory problems?

    Michael Stults

  9. "Michael Stults" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Mike Painter" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I started walking a fixed time, then upped that until it
    was about an


    hour,

    Quoted message said:

    then set a fixed distance and tried to cut the time
    back. I was at 5


    miles

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    in 50 minutes when the asthma kicked up a notch. Now I
    can occasionally


    do

    Quoted message said:

    4

    Quoted message said:

    miles in about an hour. (The upside is I've only gotten
    sore about once


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the last year when I had a slight remission.)

    It does not matter how "healthy" your diet is, if you
    take in more than


    you

    Quoted message said:

    put out you will gain. Recent studies that actually show
    some ability of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    Atkins diet to help with weight loss show that much of
    the loss comes


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    reducing calories.


    I'm curious about the asthma reference. After several
    (10+) years dealing with frequent bronchitis, the
    doctors tell me my problem is asthma. I'm still not
    completely convinced. I have only been to general
    practitioner. PFT was normal and I don't have a lot of
    problems except for the bouts of bronchitis. I am on
    medicine now and waiting to


    see

    Quoted message said:

    if that helps. What I was wondering was the effects of
    walking on your asthma. I have always been pretty short
    of breath, even as a child. However that was the only
    symptom of asthma. The doctors can't believe I have never
    smoked. Anyway, it seems that my shortness of breath is
    not any worse walking 2-3 miles than walking a few steps.
    Is this normal? I live in a fairly hot area and that is a
    huge problem for me. Last year, I worked myself up to 4-5
    miles daily. This year I have only made it up to 2-3
    miles. My problem is dealing with the heat. It seems I
    can only find time to walk when it is hot. Does anyone
    else with respiratory problems find that the shortness of
    breath levels


    out

    Quoted message said:

    and they are able to extend their time or distance. Also,
    I have more breathing problems when I'm finished and
    trying to cool off. I find that albuterol helps if used
    before walking. I am 42, 6', 230. Anyone else with
    experiences or tips on walking with respiratory problems?


    For me it's moved in steps and I'm convinced it's caused by
    allergies to something in this town.

    I was jogging and found I got "winded" in one part of town.
    I thought it was because I was overdoing it but always felt
    much better as I neared home.' Then I had two severe attacks
    and got on albuterol and a steroid. If you are only taking
    albuterol - a "emergency" inhaler and not serevent or some
    other long acting med you need to find another doctor. There
    is a triad of drugs that are automatic and if the doc does
    not prescribe these he is the wrong person. (Been there, did
    exactly that.)

    Albuterol has a drying effect on many people but in
    generic form is real cheap. Combi-vent is a combination
    and does not dry out as much but even out of Canada is
    four times the cost.

    After a few months I started again and got close to 50
    minutes for five miles (after a year or two.) Then it ramped
    up and I'm doing 4 miles in about an hour. The only time I
    do better is after being sick or sucking hot air. A cold or
    the flu puts me in absolute remission and it lasts a few
    days after I get better. Last year at a grass fire I got hit
    with some really hot air - not enough to do damage and I was
    "cured" for a few days. I've tried to find information about
    this but haven't the money to hit an allergist. I was doing
    5 miles and getting close to about 50 minutes after

  10. Have you considered seeing, at least for one consult, a
    specialist in lung & breathing (pulmonologist?)? To at least
    really try to nail down what your problem is so it can be
    treated properly? bj

    "Michael Stults" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm curious about the asthma reference. After several
    (10+) years dealing


    with frequent bronchitis, the doctors tell me my problem is
    asthma. I'm still not completely convinced. I have only been
    to general practitioner.

  11. "Mike Painter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was jogging and found I got "winded" in one part of
    town. I thought it


    was

    Quoted message said:

    because I was overdoing it but always felt much better as
    I neared home.' Then I had two severe attacks and got on
    albuterol and a steroid. If you


    are

    Quoted message said:

    only taking albuterol - a "emergency" inhaler and not
    serevent or some


    other

    Quoted message said:

    long acting med you need to find another doctor. There is
    a triad of drugs that are automatic and if the doc does
    not prescribe these he is the wrong person. (Been there,
    did exactly that.)

    Albuterol has a drying effect on many people but in
    generic form is real cheap. Combi-vent is a combination
    and does not dry out as much but even


    out

    Quoted message said:

    of Canada is four times the cost.

    After a few months I started again and got close to 50
    minutes for five miles (after a year or two.) Then it
    ramped up and I'm doing 4 miles in about an hour. The
    only time I


    do

    Quoted message said:

    better is after being sick or sucking hot air. A cold or
    the flu puts me


    in

    Quoted message said:

    absolute remission and it lasts a few days after I get
    better. Last year at a grass fire I got hit with some
    really hot air - not enough


    to

    Quoted message said:

    do damage and I was "cured" for a few days. I've tried to
    find information about this but haven't the money to hit
    an allergist. I was doing 5 miles and getting close to
    about 50 minutes after


    I find that household cleaners bother me more than anything
    else, especially anything with clorox. As far as the
    medicine, after getting the last bout of bronchitis cleared
    up three months ago, I have been on Advair, Singulair,
    Nasacort and Allegra daily. It hasn't been long enough to
    say they have prevented the recurring bronchitis, but I have
    no side effects and the throat and upper respiratory
    congestion as well as wheezing is remarkably better. Right
    now I'm walking 2-3 miles per day at 4 mph. I always walk
    the same speed and cut the time shorter if it is very hot.

  12. "bj" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Have you considered seeing, at least for one consult, a
    specialist in lung


    &

    Quoted message said:

    breathing (pulmonologist?)? To at least really try to
    nail down what your problem is so it can be treated
    properly? bj


    Yes I have considered it and will do so if the problem
    recurs now that I am on medication.

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