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  1. I have a 2001 Trek 5200 ... yesterday while riding I noticed
    a noise and looked down to see my rear wheel was rubbing
    near the bottom bracket. I took the wheel off and then put
    it back on (thinking it was not seeded right). That helped
    just a little bit (so that it wasn't rubbing so bad). I
    thought perhaps the skewer needed to be replaced but tried
    that and it didn't seem to help much either. What should I
    be looking for or trying? What could the problem be? This is
    the first time I've noticed this behavior and I ride the
    bike a lot.

    Any and all help would be most appreciated.

    BBB

  2. I should have also mentioned ... the gap between the wheel
    and the frame is not equal on each side. It is rubbing on
    one side but a nice gap on the other side (that's what made
    me think perhaps it was seeded evenly).

    "BBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have a 2001 Trek 5200 ... yesterday while riding I
    noticed a noise and looked down to see my rear wheel was
    rubbing near the bottom bracket. I took the wheel off and
    then put it back on (thinking it was not seeded right).
    That helped just a little bit (so that it wasn't rubbing
    so bad). I thought perhaps the skewer needed to be
    replaced but tried that and it didn't seem to help much
    either. What should I be looking for or trying? What could
    the problem be? This is the first time I've noticed this
    behavior and I ride the bike a lot.

    Any and all help would be most appreciated.

    BBB

  3. B3-<< I should have also mentioned ... the gap between the
    wheel and the frame is not equal on each side. >><BR><BR>

    It can only be that either the wheel is not dished or the
    frameset rear triangle/dropouts are not straight.

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali
    costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  4. The rubbing is not constant ... but when I put the back tire
    in the tire starts in the middle (where I expect it). After
    just a short ride it is once again closer on one side (non-
    chain side). The wheel needed to be trued ... so I just took
    the bike to the LBS and will have them retrue the wheel and
    look into the rubbing issue too. I wanted to see if this was
    something I could do (cause the shop's turnaround time is
    almost a week - luckily I have another bike to ride).

    Thanks!

    BBB "John Everett" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message
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    BBB said:

    I only noticed the rubbing (and the sound it caused)
    recently. Their is


    a

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    small wobble in the rim. Not sure about dropout
    adjustment screws ...


    I'm

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    fairly ignorant to the bike (I've been riding for a while
    but can only do the basics - change a tire, chain,
    handlebar tape). How can I determine


    if

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    I have dropout adjustment screws?

    I just looked at a picture of a Trek 5200 on the Trek
    website, and it looks like it has vertical dropouts, just
    like every other recent Trek I've seen. You won't find any
    adjustment screws.

    Does the rubbing only occur when the wobble passes by the
    chainstay, or is it constant? If after having your LBS re-
    true the wheel it still rubs, something has clearly
    happened to either the wheel or the frame.

    Have you had the wheel serviced recently, like having the
    hub bearings cleaned and repacked? It's highly unlikely,
    but the shop could have put the axle spacers back in the
    wrong place.

    Another thing to look for would be damage to the frame.
    Perhaps one of the bonded joints on either end of one of
    the chainstays or seatstays has failed. This could cause
    things to shift. One quick way to check frame alignment
    would be to mount another wheel. Borrow one from a friend,
    or have your LBS do it. If another wheel is centered you
    know the problem is with your wheel.

    jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net
    home.earthlink.net~jeverett3

  5. BBB said:

    The rubbing is not constant ... but when I put the back
    tire in the tire starts in the middle (where I expect it).
    After just a short ride it is once again closer on one side
    (non-chain side). The wheel needed to be trued ... so I
    just took the bike to the LBS and will have them retrue the
    wheel and look into the rubbing issue too. I wanted to see
    if this was something I could do (cause the shop's
    turnaround time is almost a week - luckily I have another
    bike to ride).

    Thanks!

    This is from the wheel moving in the dropout because it
    isn't being held tight enough. Force from the right (drive)
    side pulls the wheel forward on that side and it 'pivots'
    around the left dropout to the left and the tire starts
    rubbing on the chainstay.

    Tighten the wheel more. Maybe a better quick release skewer
    will have stronger parts that will give more bite. When you
    go pick up the bike, talk to them about this.

  6. I did indeed try another skewer ... and I also tried
    tightening the wheel tigher ... that may have helped ... but
    very very slightly.

    BBB "Dan Daniel" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
    BBB said:

    The rubbing is not constant ... but when I put the back
    tire in the tire starts in the middle (where I expect
    it). After just a short ride it is once again closer on
    one side (non-chain side). The wheel needed to be trued
    ... so I just took the bike to the LBS and will have
    them retrue


    the

    Quoted message said:
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    wheel and look into the rubbing issue too. I wanted to
    see if this was something I could do (cause the shop's
    turnaround time is almost a week - luckily I have another
    bike to ride).

    Thanks!

    This is from the wheel moving in the dropout because it
    isn't being held tight enough. Force from the right
    (drive) side pulls the wheel forward on that side and it
    'pivots' around the left dropout to the left and the tire
    starts rubbing on the chainstay.

    Tighten the wheel more. Maybe a better quick release
    skewer will have stronger parts that will give more bite.
    When you go pick up the bike, talk to them about this.

  7. "BBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    The rubbing is not constant ... but when I put the back
    tire in the tire starts in the middle (where I expect it).
    After just a short ride it is once again closer on one
    side (non-chain side). The wheel needed to be trued ... so
    I just took the bike to the LBS and will have them retrue
    the wheel and look into the rubbing issue too. I wanted to
    see if this was something I could do (cause the shop's
    turnaround time is almost a week - luckily I have another
    bike to ride).

    If the axle isn't perfectly centered (or if washers/spacers
    are missing or mis-sized), you can have a little too much
    axle sticking out past the nuts on the end. Then when the
    wheel is put into the frame, and the quick release clamped,
    you won't get a strong grip on the frame since the quick
    release is pressing the axle end, not the frame. When the
    axle is in the frame, the ends should be recessed slightly
    (from the outer edge of the frame) on both sides. Getting
    this right can be tricky, you have to count the number of
    threads protruding past the nut on both sides

  8. BBB said:

    I have a 2001 Trek 5200 ... yesterday while riding I
    noticed a noise and looked down to see my rear wheel was
    rubbing near the bottom bracket.

    I have a similar problem on my Cannondale. Not sure what
    material your dropout is made from (I doubt it's carbon, I'm
    guessing some kind of metal insert). On the aluminum
    Cannondale, the dropout had a depression worn into it on the
    drive side from the force of the axle being pulled toward
    the front of the bike by pedaling.

    This causes the axle to move farther forward (not down in
    the slot, but forward into the frame parallel to the ground)
    on the drive side, which causes the wheel to be closer to
    the left chainstay at the bottom bracket, even on a
    perfectly true and dished wheel. It's not so bad yet that
    the tire rubs like yours, but it might be something to look
    at on your bike. At some point I intend to file away a
    little of the dropout on the non-drive side to match the
    missing bit on the drive side, as soon as I have the time
    and gather up the courage to take a file to my frame.

    Michael

  9. "BBB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<OpABc.82568$eu.53999@attbi_s02>...

    Quoted message said:

    I have a 2001 Trek 5200 ... yesterday while riding I
    noticed a noise and looked down to see my rear wheel was
    rubbing near the bottom bracket. I took the wheel off and
    then put it back on (thinking it was not seeded right).
    That helped just a little bit (so that it wasn't rubbing
    so bad). I thought perhaps the skewer needed to be
    replaced but tried that and it didn't seem to help much
    either. What should I be looking for or trying? What could
    the problem be? This is the first time I've noticed this
    behavior and I ride the bike a lot.

    Any and all help would be most appreciated.

    BBB

    From your description it sounds like you might have a broken
    axle. I have twice experienced exactly the same symptoms you
    describe, and both times it was due to a broken axle. I only
    weight about 135lbs, so you don't have to be a heavy weight
    or hit a deadly pot hole in order to break an axle. Don't
    delay, your skewer may be all that's holding it together...

    Bruce Rideout

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