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  1. From CyclingNews today quoting Armstrong's french lawyer:
    "I'm very upset and I don't share the opinion of the court,"
    he told AFP, adding that he and Armstrong were not seeking
    the suppression of the book, rather a chance to provide the
    statement to readers asserting Armstrong's denial of the
    most serious charges.

    From Armstrong's London solicitors:

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his lawyers to
    immediately institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday Times and
    David Walsh seeking an injunction and substantial damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester, the
    publishers of 'LA Confidential' and the publishers of
    L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow. Issued
    by Schillings, Royalty House

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed but
    in the UK he does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by
    Armstrong to raise the shophistication level of English
    speaking Lance Tifosi.

  2. B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed
    but in the UK he does. Perhaps this is really an attempt
    by Armstrong to raise the shophistication level of English
    speaking Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in the
    legal systems make suppressing publication in France much
    more difficult.

    As an aside, to all the people comparing these proceedings
    to what they know of US law, you shouldn't. France is under
    the Napoleonic code, which is significantly different. The
    British courts are similar to the US, but there are still
    important differences (I'm not positive truth is an absolute
    defense in libel in England (I know it's not in Australia,
    and I would expect those two countries to be aligned)).

    jon

  3. Jon Fiedler said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed
    but in the UK he does. Perhaps this is really an attempt
    by Armstrong to raise the shophistication level of
    English speaking Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in
    the legal systems make suppressing publication in France
    much more difficult.

    As an aside, to all the people comparing these proceedings
    to what they know of US law, you shouldn't. France is
    under the Napoleonic code, which is significantly
    different. The British courts are similar to the US, but
    there are still important differences (I'm not positive
    truth is an absolute defense in libel in England (I know
    it's not in Australia, and I would expect those two
    countries to be aligned)).

    jon

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  4. "Jon Fiedler" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book suppressed
    but in the UK he does. Perhaps this is really an attempt
    by Armstrong to raise the shophistication level of
    English speaking Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in
    the legal systems make suppressing publication in France
    much more difficult.

    Why doesn't he say he wants to suppress the book in France,
    but doesn't have the ability to do so? At least he would
    give the impression of being honest.

    Jonathan.

  5. Why doesn't LA take a lie detector test?

    "Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Jon Fiedler" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book
    suppressed but in the UK


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong
    to raise the shophistication level of English speaking
    Lance Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in
    the legal systems make suppressing publication in France
    much more difficult.

    Why doesn't he say he wants to suppress the book in
    France, but doesn't


    have

    Quoted message said:

    the ability to do so? At least he would give the
    impression of being


    honest.

    Quoted message said:


    Jonathan.

  6. Davey Crockett <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Jon Fiedler said:
    B. Lafferty said:

    So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book
    suppressed but in the UK he does. Perhaps this is
    really an attempt by Armstrong to raise the
    shophistication level of English speaking Lance
    Tifosi.

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences in
    the legal systems make suppressing publication in France
    much more difficult.

    As an aside, to all the people comparing these
    proceedings to what they know of US law, you shouldn't.
    France is under the Napoleonic code, which is
    significantly different. The British courts are similar
    to the US, but there are still important differences
    (I'm not positive truth is an absolute defense in libel
    in England (I know it's not in Australia, and I would
    expect those two countries to be aligned)).

    jon

    hfac.uh.eduother.html

    As Davey points out "Truth is a complete defense" in
    Australian and English law.

  7. "L G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    Why doesn't LA take a lie detector test?

    Exactly -- every pro needs to pass a Lie "Detetector" test
    and then 30 drug tests a year to prove their innocence.

    You're brilliant? Where does your genius come from
    from Rolfie?

    Quoted message said:

    "Jonathan v.d. Sluis" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Jon Fiedler" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    B. Lafferty wrote:

    > So in France Armstrong doesn't want the book
    > suppressed but in the UK


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > does. Perhaps this is really an attempt by Armstrong
    > to raise the shophistication level of English
    > speaking Lance Tifosi.
    >
    >

    My guess (and I'm no lawyer) is that the differences
    in the legal systems make suppressing publication in
    France much more difficult.

    Why doesn't he say he wants to suppress the book in
    France, but doesn't


    have

    Quoted message said:

    the ability to do so? At least he would give the
    impression of being


    honest.

    Quoted message said:


    Jonathan.

  8. "K. J. Papai" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "L G" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Why doesn't LA take a lie detector test?

    Exactly -- every pro needs to pass a Lie "Detetector" test
    and then 30 drug tests a year to prove their innocence.

    You're brilliant? Where does your genius come from
    from Rolfie?

    I suggest we make them all spend the month of December with
    Gen. Miller at Gitmo undergoing interrogation by one of the
    24 superlative methods approved by Sec. Rummy that do not
    (allegedly) violate the Geneva Conventions. If they can't
    get a confession, then the rider is cleared through the
    following December. No tests will be needed throughout the
    year as they will again be tortured/questioned in December.

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