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paint cracking?

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  1. First off, I have a steel road frame, lugged/brazed
    construction with rather fragile paint. I acquired it new,
    and have about 1,200 miles (or so) on it. I weight about
    200 pounds.

    Today, I noticed a couple of cracks following the bottom
    sides of the seatstay/seatlug join.

    My LBS suspects it's paint, and I've talked to the fellow
    who has the frames built and imported, and he suspects the
    same thing (but will supply a replacement frame if I'm
    concerned).

    Here's the deal. Has anyone else with a conventionally-built
    frame (standard seat-lug, not a separate collar) noticed
    paint cracks in this vicinity?

    I'm just trying to get a sense of what's happening here.
    Paint chips, scrapes, etc...that's not a big problem. But if
    the stays are breaking away from the lug, *THEN* I'll be
    concerned...

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    Originally posted by Andy M-S
    First off, I have a steel road frame, lugged/brazed
    construction with rather fragile paint. I acquired it new,
    and have about 1,200 miles (or so) on it. I weight about
    200 pounds.

    Today, I noticed a couple of cracks following the bottom
    sides of the seatstay/seatlug join.

    My LBS suspects it's paint, and I've talked to the fellow
    who has the frames built and imported, and he suspects the
    same thing (but will supply a replacement frame if I'm
    concerned).

    Here's the deal. Has anyone else with a conventionally-built
    frame (standard seat-lug, not a separate collar) noticed
    paint cracks in this vicinity?

    I'm just trying to get a sense of what's happening here.
    Paint chips, scrapes, etc...that's not a big problem. But if
    the stays are breaking away from the lug, *THEN* I'll be
    concerned...

    Could very well be brazing flux that was not properly removed prior to painting. Some fluxes are glass-like after brazing but will absorb water slowly and "bloom", destroying paint.

  3. Luft could be right but the frame was dipped first? SOP?
    Dave scores also. but frames do flex flexing may cause some
    paint's cracking. there was an ongoing discussion of this
    some time ago- a year ago?

    i ride a six mile section at 20-25 mph(tailwind) over a
    smooth path carrying 40 pounds or so on the rear rack with
    me at 165. I'm cautious: no ramming. The paint was rusto
    dayglo (not recommended-the dayglo as it unglows or
    degassses set in a closet)and at the seat stays only at a
    gross visual level-dry lake dry mud cracks more or less
    around an 3/16ths inch wxl. i am told natural material's
    tend to crack in 90 degree angles like these seat stays.
    whereas flux may fall off in a chunk or metal fatigue wud
    center around the under flex not along the bendable length.
    [censored]!! get the belt sander!

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