OT: Agent Newsreader

"Westie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Have just started to use Forte Agent newsreader today
having come from OE. I've heard that it's a good NG Reader
and I guess there is a learning curve, but what on Earth
is it that you Agent users like about this app? I must be
doing something wrong because I'm finding it more of an
effort to use than OE. What's with this 'Press Enter to
Retrieve Message anyway'? Why won't it just retrive it
when I select the message without having to worry about
extra keystrokes?

Configuration maybe?

I used FA for a couple years, and liked it better than OE,
but it takes getting used to, and tinkering with it, until
you get it the way you like
it. Since I don't post nearly as much as I have in the past,
I've not installed it since my last reformat.

Westie said:

Have just started to use Forte Agent newsreader today
having come from OE. I've heard that it's a good NG Reader
and I guess there is a learning curve, but what on Earth
is it that you Agent users like about this app? I must be
doing something wrong because I'm finding it more of an
effort to use than OE. What's with this 'Press Enter to
Retrieve Message anyway'? Why won't it just retrive it
when I select the message without having to worry about
extra keystrokes?

I tried agent as well, after discovering just what a
steaming pile of dung OE really is. I didn't really like it
either. I started using Xnews, and never looked back.
xnews.newsguy.comxnews.newsguy.comOpen ↗ Xnews is fairly easy to use, and
WAY more configurable than most readers. It uses a scoring
system which allows you a lot of control over what you see,
and how messages are flagged. You can also configure
background colors window layouts, text size, color, etc.
I've been using it for years and am still discovering it's
abilities. Here's a help page if you decide to try it.
geocities.comd4vidbOpen ↗ check out
news.software.readers for more info on newsreaders, use
google groups search to check the archives if you want to
read a million posts about xnews, and more.

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6/17/2004
7:02 PM [GMT-8]

Westie said:

Have just started to use Forte Agent newsreader today
having come from OE. I've heard that it's a good NG Reader
and I guess there is a learning curve, but what on Earth
is it that you Agent users like about this app? I must be
doing something wrong because I'm finding it more of an
effort to use than OE. What's with this 'Press Enter to
Retrieve Message anyway'? Why won't it just retrive it
when I select the message without having to worry about
extra keystrokes?

OK. Probably the odd man out but I've never had a problem
with OE. I've tried the others such as agent, xnews,
newspro, and newsrover but I always go back to OE. However,
if I'm sucking files down the net I always use newsrover

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www.schnauzers.ws

Ride-A-Lot said:

Westie said:

Have just started to use Forte Agent newsreader today
having come from OE. I've heard that it's a good NG
Reader and I guess there is a learning curve, but what on
Earth is it that you Agent users like about this app? I
must be doing something wrong because I'm finding it more
of an effort to use than OE. What's with this 'Press
Enter to Retrieve Message anyway'? Why won't it just
retrive it when I select the message without having to
worry about extra keystrokes?

OK. Probably the odd man out but I've never had a problem
with OE. I've tried the others such as agent, xnews,
newspro, and newsrover but I always go back to OE.
However, if I'm sucking files down the net I always use
newsrover

OE works for me, and having come from Agent, haven't
found one thing OE doesn't do when it comes to reading
and responding to posts(I don't do binaries, so that's a
non-issue.)

Iguana said:

OE works for me, and having come from Agent, haven't
found one thing OE doesn't do when it comes to reading
and responding to posts(I don't do binaries, so that's a
non-issue.)

begin Iloveyou.scr

bomba said:

Iguana said:

OE works for me, and having come from Agent, haven't
found one thing OE doesn't do when it comes to reading
and responding to posts(I don't do binaries, so that's a
non-issue.)

Only if you're dumb enough to open it. In that case, you
deserve it. Also, if you are using a computer and do not
have a virus scanner that will scan a file before it is
opened, you should be taken off life support.

Westie said:

Have just started to use Forte Agent newsreader today
having come from OE. I've heard that it's a good NG Reader
and I guess there is a learning curve, but what on Earth is
it that you Agent users like about this app? I must be
doing something wrong because I'm finding it more of an
effort to use than OE. What's with this 'Press Enter to
Retrieve Message anyway'? Why won't it just retrive it when
I select the message without having to worry about extra
keystrokes?

I've been using Agent for close to 10 years. I suppose what
works is what you're used to because OE is the program that
seems like junk and hard to work with for me.

As far as retrieving messages, I use the mouse, not the
keyboard, and am unfamiliar with the "Press Enter to
Retrieve" --dt

Westie said:

Have just started to use Forte Agent newsreader today
having come from OE. I've heard that it's a good NG Reader
and I guess there is a learning curve, but what on Earth
is it that you Agent users like about this app? I must be
doing something wrong because I'm finding it more of an
effort to use than OE. What's with this 'Press Enter to
Retrieve Message anyway'? Why won't it just retrive it
when I select the message without having to worry about
extra keystrokes?
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Westie

The hardcore newsreaders are nice but I never find the
benifits to outweigh the learning curve. I've been using
Mozilla Thunderbird and love it, way more (useful) features
than OE and just as easy to use.

Don't even get me started on how much better Firebird is
over IE, I absolutly cannot use IE anymore.

Ride-A-Lot said:

bomba said:

Iguana said:

OE works for me, and having come from Agent, haven't
found one thing OE doesn't do when it comes to reading
and responding to posts(I don't do binaries, so that's a
non-issue.)

Only if you're dumb enough to open it. In that case, you
deserve it. Also, if you are using a computer and do not
have a virus scanner that will scan a file before it is
opened, you should be taken off life support.

The point is, there was nothing attached. I posted plain
text, it's just that your newsreader chose to interpret it
as a .scr file. Just one of the many great features of OE...

On 2004-06-18, kantspel penned:

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Don't even get me started on how much better Firebird is
over IE, I absolutly cannot use IE anymore.

Mmmmm firebird. Come for the popup blocking. Stay for the
tabs.

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monique

On 2004-06-18, Ride-A-Lot penned:

Quoted message said:

Only if you're dumb enough to open it. In that case, you
deserve it. Also, if you are using a computer and do not
have a virus scanner that will scan a file before it is
opened, you should be taken off life support.

Er, I don't think there *is* such a virus scanner for linux
...

--
monique

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-18, kantspel penned:

Quoted message said:

Don't even get me started on how much better Firebird is
over IE, I absolutly cannot use IE anymore.

Mmmmm firebird. Come for the popup blocking. Stay for
the tabs.

Indeed! Firefox kicks ass, I use tabs constantly, its a
great way to read forums and browse links on a site. It
helps to learn the KB shortcuts too, here is a page full of
them: texturizer.netkeyboard.htmlOpen ↗

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6/17/2004
7:02 PM [GMT-8]

Ride-A-Lot said:

Only if you're dumb enough to open it. In that case, you
deserve it. Also, if you are using a computer and do not
have a virus scanner that will scan a file before it is
opened, you should be taken off life support.

AV is for people that ARE dumb. If you know what you are
doing, the chance of getting a virus is ridiculously low.
But then again the chance of you knowing what you are doing
and using OE for news is also ridiculously low.

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6/17/2004
7:02 PM [GMT-8]

sittingduck said:

Ride-A-Lot said:

Only if you're dumb enough to open it. In that case, you
deserve it. Also, if you are using a computer and do not
have a virus scanner that will scan a file before it is
opened, you should be taken off life support.

AV is for people that ARE dumb. If you know what you are
doing, the chance of getting a virus is ridiculously low.
But then again the chance of you knowing what you are
doing and using OE for news is also ridiculously low.

Blaster changed all the rules, all you have to do is plug
your computer into the cloud and BAM! There are plenty of
viruses out there now that can zap you with little or no
user intervention.

You don't have to be an idiot to get infected these days.

kantspel said:

Blaster changed all the rules, all you have to do is plug
your computer into the cloud and BAM! There are plenty of
viruses out there now that can zap you with little or no
user intervention.

Blaster was not an issue for those behind a router or
firewall or those that downloaded the patch from microsoft a
MONTH BEFORE the virus ever showed up.

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6/17/2004
7:02 PM [GMT-8]

sittingduck said:

Monique Y. Mudama said:

On 2004-06-18, kantspel penned:

Quoted message said:

Don't even get me started on how much better Firebird is
over IE, I absolutly cannot use IE anymore.

Mmmmm firebird. Come for the popup blocking. Stay for
the tabs.

Indeed! Firefox kicks ass, I use tabs constantly, its a
great way to read forums and browse links on a site. It
helps to learn the KB shortcuts too, here is a page full
of them: texturizer.netkeyboard.htmlOpen ↗

Thanks for that link. I just recently switched to
Thunderbird/Firefox and I'm loving it.

--
Slacker

Westie said:

Have just started to use Forte Agent newsreader today
having come from OE. I've heard that it's a good NG Reader
and I guess there is a learning curve, but what on Earth is
it that you Agent users like about this app? I must be
doing something wrong because I'm finding it more of an
effort to use than OE. What's with this 'Press Enter to
Retrieve Message anyway'? Why won't it just retrive it when
I select the message without having to worry about extra
keystrokes?

I use Free Agent and love it. I also liked XNews. With
Outlook I would hardly get any headers. My browser and e-
mail are Mozilla but the newsreader doesn't display
correctly. In my case Outlook didn't work well so I use Free
Agent. As for the interface, that is a matter of personal
preference. Like Doug Taylor I browse with the mouse so the
having to press enter to retreive the message does not
bother me. However, when I first started using it I was used
to browsing with the keyboard and having to press enter to
retrieve drove me nuts.

Fredzep

"sittingduck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

kantspel said:

Blaster changed all the rules, all you have to do is
plug your computer into the cloud and BAM! There are
plenty of viruses out there now that can zap you with
little or no user intervention.

Blaster was not an issue for those behind a router or
firewall or those

that

Quoted message said:

downloaded the patch from microsoft a MONTH BEFORE the
virus ever showed

up.

Quoted message said:

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6/17/2004
10:02 PM [GMT-8]

I'd love to see a virus scan of your computer. One of my
friends here who works for our school's online service
(which mostly handles virus removal and prevention) thought
he didn't need a virus scanner because he was too smart to
fall for virus stuff. He's a damn smart kid too - double
major computer and civil engineering, and doing well. He
lasted about a month before he got kicked off the network
for spreading viruses - he had more than 5 on his computer
when we checked it over.

I'd love to see an adaware check too. I never install stuff
I don't know what it is, and yet I always pick up spyware
here and there - it just happens. Right now I'm dealing with
a particularly nasty piece of malware known as
Rads01.quadrogram (or something like that). Its been pretty
viral in nature - changing its .exe name, running itself on
startup and automatically reopening (with a new file name)
when I close it down via task manager. I've adawared the
thing at least 20 times, keeps finding files, reg entries,
running processes - and it keeps coming back. and I KNOW I
didn't install anything screwy.

[censored] happens man, ESPECIALLY if you're running windows. And
yes, a lot of that [censored] slips right by most firewalls - my
school is behind a firewall, plus filters email for viruses
(viri?) being sent in, and has mandatory updates that you
need to install every month or so or they kick you right
off the network - and we still get tons of 'em through
every year.

"I won't get a virus without antivirus because I'm smart
enough not to click on anything suspect" is like saying "I
won't get STDS by having unprotected

Enjoy the visits to your local doc.

Jon Bond Jon Bond

Jon Bond said:

I'd love to see a virus scan of your computer. One of my
friends here who works for our school's online service
(which mostly handles virus removal and prevention)
thought he didn't need a virus scanner because he was too
smart to fall for virus stuff. He's a damn smart kid too -
double major computer and civil engineering, and doing
well. He lasted about a month before he got kicked off the
network for spreading viruses - he had more than 5 on his
computer when we checked it over.

I'd love to see an adaware check too. I never install
stuff I don't know what it is, and yet I always pick up
spyware here and there - it just happens. Right now I'm
dealing with a particularly nasty piece of malware known
as Rads01.quadrogram (or something like that). Its been
pretty viral in nature - changing its .exe name, running
itself on startup and automatically reopening (with a new
file name) when I close it down via task manager. I've
adawared the thing at least 20 times, keeps finding files,
reg entries, running processes - and it keeps coming back.
and I KNOW I didn't install anything screwy.

a friend of mine is having trouble with something like
that. There's also Spybot Search and Destroy, which I used
in conjunction with Adaware, and then there's a new one
called "bazooka"... any one have any experience with that
piece of software?

penny