what does SWAG mean??

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Probably a Duh question and after as many rides with SWAG
support that I have been on I admit I do not know what
SWAG stands for. Bill B

SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess

I think you mean SAG support - transportation for those
riders who are sagging behind - or literally drooping from
weariness.

skip

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Probably a Duh question and after as many rides with SWAG
support that I have been on I admit I do not know what
SWAG stands for. Bill B

SWAG = Scientific Wild Ass Guess

I think you mean SAG support - transportation for those
riders who are sagging behind - or literally drooping from
weariness.

skip

SAG specifically stands for either "Support And Gear" or
"Safety And Gear" depending on who you talk to. It's a term
used on rides generally sponsored or supported by a group of
individuals or clubs who use their time and motor vehicles
to help the riders during the ride. A greatly under-rated
bunch, I might add.

Landonman

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SAG specifically stands for either "Support And Gear" or
"Safety And Gear" depending on who you talk to.

Or indeed nothing, depending on who you talk to. As far as I
know these are both backronyms, certainly the term was used
uncapitalised by my club years before I ever heard any
suggestion that it might be acronymic.

The sag-wagon existed for those who got the sag, being the
British version of the bonk (bonk means - ahem - something
different in Britain). Knowing of the existence of the
verb "to sag" makes any search for further meaning
unlikely, of course.

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SAG specifically stands for either "Support And Gear" or
"Safety And Gear" depending on who you talk to.

Or indeed nothing, depending on who you talk to. As far as
I know these are both backronyms, certainly the term was
used uncapitalised by my club years before I ever heard
any suggestion that it might be acronymic.

The sag-wagon existed for those who got the sag, being the
British version of the bonk (bonk means - ahem - something
different in Britain). Knowing of the existence of the
verb "to sag" makes any search for further meaning
unlikely, of course.

I think both Landon and Guy have got it right. The main
problem is that those doing the support themselves are not
sure what it means, and so the confusion goes on forever.

But it is nice when ARBR can solve these peccadilloes
like this.

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SAG specifically stands for either "Support And Gear"
or "Safety And Gear" depending on who you talk to.

Or indeed nothing, depending on who you talk to. As far
as I know these are both backronyms, certainly the term
was used uncapitalised by my club years before I ever
heard any suggestion that it might be acronymic.

The sag-wagon existed for those who got the sag, being
the British version of the bonk (bonk means - ahem -
something different in Britain). Knowing of the
existence of the verb "to sag" makes any search for
further meaning unlikely, of course.

I think both Landon and Guy have got it right. The main
problem is that those doing the support themselves are not
sure what it means, and so the confusion goes on forever.

But it is nice when ARBR can solve these peccadilloes
like this.

Thanks Ed,Guy,Dolan and Skip. Leave it to me to mis-spell
Sag. The MS 150 ride I did in 2000 was the best sag I have
encountered. I personally did not need the services of the
sag wagon but I did appreciate the drivers slowing down as
they drove by asking if I was allright. Most of this ride
was in the Hot and humid Mississippi Delta with a steady
headwind. Lots of riders were dropping like Flies. Well into
the ride I noticed that every time a sag truck passed by it
would have a load of bikes piled up in the bed with the
riders crammed in the cab. Bill

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Thanks Ed,Guy,Dolan and Skip. Leave it to me to mis-
spell Sag.

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you get
at trade shows and promotions. No idea where the word comes
from, or if I am spelling _that _ right.

John Riley

Just zis Guy said:

The sag-wagon existed for those who got the sag, being the
British version of the bonk (bonk means - ahem - something
different in Britain). Knowing of the existence of the
verb "to sag" makes any search for further meaning
unlikely, of course.

Up to a point, Lord Copper. British cyclists had /that/ kind
of bonk long before the word was appropriated by tabloid
FLJS. I am informed that they chose this particular word as
it is "knob" spelled backwards, but this is very likely
untrue, given the habits of tabloid FLJS.

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Thanks Ed,Guy,Dolan and Skip. Leave it to me to mis-
spell Sag.

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you
get at trade shows and promotions. No idea where the word
comes from, or if I am spelling _that _ right.

That's right John. At every trade show I've been to vendors
give out lots of free SWAG (scientific wild ass guesses)
when asked about their products. ;-)

skip

john riley said:

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you
get at trade shows and promotions. No idea where the word
comes from, or if I am spelling _that _ right.

Schwag is the word. See cyclo-x.comschwag.htmlOpen ↗
for a definition.

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Schwag is the word. See cyclo-x.comschwag.htmlOpen ↗
for a definition.

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Well, maybe, but not the only form. Swag has been used for
loot since way before the Internet and has been used at
computer conferences, etc. for freebies for some time.

And doing a quick Google search turns this up:

anu.edu.auswag.htmlOpen ↗

and a whole lot of stores using swag to one degree or
another for hand-out items for conventions, etc. OTOH, more
than a few use schwag, which I've never heard of.

Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
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dvt said:

Schwag is the word. See cyclo-cyclo-Open ↗
x.com/schwag.html for a

definition.

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Dave dvt at psu dot edu

Well, maybe, but not the only form. Swag has been used for
loot since way before the Internet and has been used at
computer conferences, etc. for freebies for some time.

And doing a quick Google search turns this up:

anu.edu.auswag.htmlOpen ↗

and a whole lot of stores using swag to one degree or
another for hand-out items for conventions, etc. OTOH,
more than a few use schwag, which I've never heard of.

Here's my google search contribution:
tinyurl.com2nratOpen ↗

skip

Indeed there is a real word "swag." It comes from Old
English and Old Norse for "swing." One early use of the term
(1303) is for "big bag" (picture it swinging from a belt or
wagon) or a "big blustering fellow" (around 1580s). It seems
to me there is a relationship with pirate treasure, swag
being loot captured or stolen--which might need to be put
into a big bag for carrying.

Gee, sometimes you need a swag bag on your bike if you are
doing a lot of errands.

Enjoy, Michael

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Thanks Ed,Guy,Dolan and Skip. Leave it to me to mis-
spell Sag.

There is such a thing as SWAG. It is the free stuff you
get at trade shows and promotions. No idea where the word
comes from, or if I am spelling _that _ right.

John Riley

Curtis L. Russell said:

Well, maybe, but not the only form. Swag has been used for
loot since way before the Internet and has been used at
computer conferences, etc. for freebies for some time.

I believe it's been used a lot longer than that. I think
pirates used it to describe their booty. Merriam-Webster
dictionary has a definition for swag: "goods acquired by
unlawful means." Synonyms loot, spoils, profits.

Gary

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I believe it's been used a lot longer than that. I think
pirates used it to describe their booty. Merriam-Webster
dictionary has a definition for swag: "goods acquired by
unlawful means." Synonyms loot, spoils, profits.

Gary

I know, but the link I gave covered it better than I could.
For the Aussies, the swagman even ended up (in what I think
is) their national anthem, Waltzing Matilda.

Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on
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I believe it's been used a lot longer than that. I think
pirates used it to describe their booty. Merriam-Webster
dictionary has a definition for swag: "goods acquired by
unlawful means." Synonyms loot, spoils, profits.

Gary

I know, but the link I gave covered it better than I
could. For the Aussies, the swagman even ended up (in what
I think is) their national anthem, Waltzing Matilda.

The Australian national anthem is Advance, Australia Fair.
It has no swagman.
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