CTS Training System

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From: "Mercian1973" [email hidden]

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Anyone have any experience with the Chris Carmichael on
line training system? I'm a club rider and wondering if the
recreational system would do me any good.

--
Mike Berry La Mesa, Calif.

Overpriced and underfocused since you're not a Nat level
racer. Find a decent local coach and watch the
improvement. Bill C

I disagree with TritonRider's post. I've been with CTS now
for a year and a half on the "Sport" program, and it has
been fantastic.

Started out as a pretty good club rider who could hang with
the racers on good days. Under the CTS program (which is not
all that expensive at like $30/month), you now have a
specific coach (unlike before where it was the "coach-bank"
and any coach would answer your e-mails) who you can e-mail
as often as you like (and 30 mins of phone time/month) and a
program tailored to your fitness level and goals, it is
really good. Access to their booklets, brochures and the CTS
training manual gives you insight into what you're doing and
why in your training and nutrition. The program is very
effective, and the periodic field tests give you a metric as
to how you're improving.

For about a buck a day I don't think you can beat it. I went
from pretty good club rider to (within a year) doing my
first two triathlons, never having raced to being a Cat 4
crit/road racer, and taking my 9 hour time for a 170 mile
road race down to 7:20 (and feeling really good
afterwards!). And the program is fun too.

Can't rate em high enough....

"Mercian1973" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anyone have any experience with the Chris Carmichael on
line training system? I'm a club rider and wondering if
the recreational system would do me any good.

--
Mike Berry La Mesa, Calif.

"I have to admit it's getting better, it's getting better
all the time..." Lennon/McCartney

I had 4 coaches in 3 months. The last one was new to
cycling. You be the judge.

Jerry Winter Lake Oswego, OR

"Mercian1973" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anyone have any experience with the Chris Carmichael on
line training system? I'm a club rider and wondering if
the recreational system would do me any good.

--
Mike Berry La Mesa, Calif.

"I have to admit it's getting better, it's getting better
all the time..." Lennon/McCartney

Shop around as well. Visit www.bicyclecoach.com and you will
see a lot of coaches listed. Compare CTS with one of them in
your area.

I believe that for a beginning or lower cat cyclist, having
someone that can come out and ride with you or watch you
ride is superior to a coach via the internet in most cases.

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Quoted message said:

Anyone have any experience with the Chris Carmichael on
line training system? I'm a club rider and wondering if
the recreational system would do me any good.

--
Mike Berry La Mesa, Calif.

"I have to admit it's getting better, it's getting better
all the time..." Lennon/McCartney

I've had a few, but not that bad I've had like 3 in the last
year or so. One interesting thing is that you get different
viewpoints with each one, and as long as you don't take what
any of them say as gospel, and pick the best of each, that
can be a good thing.

For a really high performance cyclist, I don't know that I'd
go with online coaches either. But club riders wanting to
break into the higher performance arena, this is a cost
effective way to get some good info, training program and
advice. But for mving beyond hat, I agree with you. Having
somene with you who can critique your riding and training is
the best...

"Jerry Winter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I had 4 coaches in 3 months. The last one was new to
cycling. You be the judge.

Jerry Winter Lake Oswego, OR

"Mercian1973" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anyone have any experience with the Chris Carmichael on
line training system? I'm a club rider and wondering if
the recreational system would

do

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me any good.

--
Mike Berry La Mesa, Calif.

"I have to admit it's getting better, it's getting
better all the time..." Lennon/McCartney

I'll admit I'm biased here, as I'm a coach, but I've picked
up, or know other coaches who have picked up clients
directly from CTS. $30/month sounds great but it undercuts
the pricing of good coaches who try to make a decent wage.
Me personally, I charge more and give more (time) and get to
know each client well (even my few west coast clients). In
my opinion, find someone local, or at least someone who will
be able to meet you sometime during the year, or who will
communicate with you. As Max Testa told me when I was
getting back into coaching, "Anyone can write a good
training program, but few coach. You need to be a coach."

Good luck, CH

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I disagree with TritonRider's post. I've been with CTS now
for a year and a half on the "Sport" program, and it has
been fantastic.

Started out as a pretty good club rider who could hang
with the racers on good days. Under the CTS program (which
is not all that expensive at like $30/month), you now have
a specific coach (unlike before where it was the "coach-
bank" and any coach would answer your e-mails) who you can
e-mail as often as you like (and 30 mins of phone
time/month) and a program tailored to your fitness level
and goals, it is really good. Access to their booklets,
brochures and the CTS training manual gives you insight
into what you're doing and why in your training and
nutrition. The program is very effective, and the periodic
field tests give you a metric as to how you're improving.

For about a buck a day I don't think you can beat it. I
went from pretty good club rider to (within a year) doing
my first two triathlons, never having raced to being a Cat
4 crit/road racer, and taking my 9 hour time for a 170
mile road race down to 7:20 (and feeling really good
afterwards!). And the program is fun too.

Can't rate em high enough....

"Mercian1973" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Anyone have any experience with the Chris Carmichael on
line training system? I'm a club rider and wondering if
the recreational system would do me any good.

--
Mike Berry La Mesa, Calif.

"I have to admit it's getting better, it's getting
better all the time..." Lennon/McCartney

Just buy the videos and use common sense.

Mercian1973 said:

Anyone have any experience with the Chris Carmichael on
line training system? I'm a club rider and wondering if the
recreational system would do me any good.

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I'll admit I'm biased here, as I'm a coach, but I've
picked up, or know other coaches who have picked up
clients directly from CTS. $30/month sounds great but it
undercuts the pricing of good coaches who try to make a
decent wage. Me personally, I charge more and give more
(time) and get to know each client well

My coach, Tim Roach, always said, "you get what you pay
for", in essence that is very true. The poster said he paid
$30.00 a month and improved from what it looked like to me
about $30.00 a month worth and oh got to talk to someone for
30 minutes a month. There are times that I talk with my
coach 30 minutes a DAY when training. Most of probably know
this already, but I will reiterate it anyway. If you have
never been formally coached and you are a relatively new or
inexpereinced rider, ANY amount of structured training will
garner you what seems to be an enormus amount of benefit.
OTOH if you are an expereinced rider and HAVE been formally
coached for many years, it isn't always easy to see the
improvements made. Inaother words, the better, stronger and
faster you get, the harder it is to get MORE better,
stronger and faster. For me personally, I want my coach
RIGHT THERE when I am training, watching me, my pedal
stroke, my body language, my effort, if he can't see that
stuff (online coaching) you can never reach your full
potential.

My .02c Dave Training again