Doctors and Running

Don't worry. I'm sure the CT scan of your brain will come
back negative.

Dude, Your brain has ruptured, that stuff dribbling out is
dissolved brain matter. Actually, if all else comes back
negative, then it is spinal misalignment which was my 1st
guess anyway. If it is that, RUN, DO NOT WALK away from the
MD, because there is zippo he can do for you. Find a good,
reputable chiropractor in your area, there are several
referal services available. PLEASE do not let the MD give
you pills (muscle relaxers) and other [censored], they won't help
in the long run. If after a day or two or three you start
getting worse, get out for a run, because if that mucous
stops draining out of your eye, it's going to find somewhere
else to go, and it maybe a far more sinister place than
draining out your eye. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't stop
running at all unless there's other problems going on like
unusual fatigue. Running won't help it, but it certainly is
not the cause, and to start doing something differently now
may not be a good idea. Like I said, that puss needs to
drain, and if not out your eye it may find somewhere else to
buildup. Go to chiro to at leasdt be examined, you can do
that in a day, so why wait for test resul;ts etc and suffer
in the meantime? If it's not your spine he'll tell you so.
Good luck.

"Mrsg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<QZednU3ZvNW5-lPdRVn-
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I visited my family doctor this morning for what I thought
was a strange sinus problem. I would never have dreamed
that I would be sent home with orders to take at least a
week off from running. I've been having pain behind my
left ear and into my neck for a couple of weeks. At first
I thought that I had just slept wrong or something. I
guess that I should have realized that that kind of pain
doesn't hang around quite that long. Over the weekend the
head pain became more severe. It hurts to move my head to
the left, and the pain behind my ear has intenisified, and
radiates into the top of the back of my head now. I had
trouble sleeping last night, and I was nauseated with the
pain this morning. That is what prompted my visit to the
doctor. I do have a history of ear infections in that left
ear. The ear has ruptured twice in the past, and at one
time was so irritated that I had shingles in the ear
canal. I told the doctor this morning that I've also had
another weird thing going on with that left side that
appeared to be affected by running. That's why the topic
of my exercise habits even came up. In the last six months
when I do long runs of two hours or more I get this
lovely, yellow mucus that comes out of my left eye. This
is accompanied by the loss of hearing in my left ear for
about twenty-four hours. The puss-like stuff is bad enough
that I have to take my contacts out for the day because
they just keep getting scummy. Now to me all of this
sounds like some kind of a sinus thing. The doctor says he
suspects either mastoiditis or bone spurs or degeneration
of one of the cervical disks in my neck. He prescribed
antibiotics and an anti-inflammatory drug. I'm having an
X-ray of the spine and a CT scan of my skull/brain
tomorrow. He also says no running until we figure out what
this is. Have any of you had experience with anything like
this? Does terminating my running really sound necessary?
I'm doing what he says, but I don't like it. Michelle

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Have any of you had experience with anything like
this? Does terminating my running really sound
necessary? I'm doing what he says, but I don't like
it. Michelle

I have some real sinus infection problems, about twice a
year. I dont usually have the junk coming from the eye...but
it has happened before.

SOme antibiotics (like Leviquin, sp) and others can cause
tendon rupture. Something I did not know until I had already
damaged my achilles. DO NOT RUN. Make sure you read ALL the
side effects.

Get well. A mastoidectomy would really suck, I hope the
anitbiotics work!

Leo

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[email hidden] (Runners 4 Kerry) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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Dude, Your brain has ruptured, that stuff dribbling out is
dissolved brain matter. Actually, if all else comes back
negative, then it is spinal misalignment which was my 1st
guess anyway. If it is that, RUN, DO NOT WALK away from
the MD, because there is zippo he can do for you. Find a
good, reputable chiropractor in your area, there are
several referal services available. PLEASE do not let the
MD give you pills (muscle relaxers) and other [censored], they
won't help in the long run. If after a day or two or three
you start getting worse, get out for a run, because if
that mucous stops draining out of your eye, it's going to
find somewhere else to go, and it maybe a far more
sinister place than draining out your eye. As a matter of
fact, I wouldn't stop running at all unless there's other
problems going on like unusual fatigue. Running won't help
it, but it certainly is not the cause, and to start doing
something differently now may not be a good idea. Like I
said, that puss needs to drain, and if not out your eye it
may find somewhere else to buildup. Go to chiro to at
leasdt be examined, you can do that in a day, so why wait
for test resul;ts etc and suffer in the meantime? If it's
not your spine he'll tell you so. Good luck.

He/me is SO right!

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I have some real sinus infection problems, about twice a
year. I dont usually have the junk coming from the
eye...but it has happened before.

SOme antibiotics (like Leviquin, sp) and others can cause
tendon rupture. Something I did not know until I had
already damaged my achilles. DO NOT RUN. Make sure you
read ALL the side effects.

Get well. A mastoidectomy would really suck, I hope the
anitbiotics work!

Leo

Thanks, Leo. I've been walking instead of running for the
last couple of days. I had the tests last night, so
hopefully I'll know more by tomorrow or the next day.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:46:15 -0500, "Mrsg" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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SOme antibiotics (like Leviquin, sp) and others can cause
tendon rupture. Something I did not know until I had
already damaged my achilles. DO NOT RUN. Make sure you
read ALL the side effects.

search for "levaquin" and "adverse reaction". i would never
take any of the flox antibiotics unless i was dying.
...thehick

frank-in-toronto said:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:46:15 -0500, "Mrsg"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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SOme antibiotics (like Leviquin, sp) and others can cause
tendon rupture. Something I did not know until I had
already damaged my achilles. DO NOT RUN. Make sure you
read ALL the side effects.

search for "levaquin" and "adverse reaction". i would
never take any of the flox antibiotics unless i was dying.
...thehick

Several of the other more common antibiotics also have the
potential side effects of causing tendon damage.

I have no excuse for not reading the side effect prior to
taking the levaquin (thanks for the correct spelling).
However, I probably would have still taken it, I would have
not run or lifted weights during that time. Given the fact
it had gotten to the point of levaquin or the
mastoidectomy...I'd still take the levaquin.

I, like many others, blindly follow the doc's advice. Now I
know a bit better. Lesson learned.

Leo <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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frank-in-toronto said:

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 08:46:15 -0500, "Mrsg"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

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Quoted message said:

>SOme antibiotics (like Leviquin, sp) and others can
>cause tendon rupture. Something I did not know until I
>had already damaged my achilles. DO NOT RUN. Make sure
>you read ALL the side effects.

search for "levaquin" and "adverse reaction". i would
never take any of the flox antibiotics unless i was
dying. ...thehick

Several of the other more common antibiotics also have the
potential side effects of causing tendon damage.

I have no excuse for not reading the side effect prior to
taking the levaquin (thanks for the correct spelling).
However, I probably would have still taken it, I would
have not run or lifted weights during that time. Given the
fact it had gotten to the point of levaquin or the
mastoidectomy...I'd still take the levaquin.

I, like many others, blindly follow the doc's advice. Now
I know a bit better. Lesson learned.

I know a little about spine. If you want good back care go
to a physio who has a masters from a program affiliated
with a medical school. Look for someone who practises
"active" therapy, and has training in manipulation
techniques. But that doesn't mean you'll do that, only that
they will have sound medical knowledge to back up the
decision. Physios rock.

Zee

[email hidden] (Zee) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I know a little about spine. If you want good back care go
to a physio who has a masters from a program affiliated
with a medical school. Look for someone who practises
"active" therapy, and has training in manipulation
techniques. But that doesn't mean you'll do that, only
that they will have sound medical knowledge to back up the
decision. Physios rock.

Zee

I know a LOT about back care, learned the hard way. There is
no difference between a good chiro and a good psyio, except
for $$$. The person giving you this advice is one, and has
ulterior motives.

You must be a very good doc to give a diagnosis over the
internet like that as opposed to someone who actually saw
the patient.

I am sure an adjustment from a chiropractor would cure
him....

"Runners 4 Kerry" <[email hidden]> wrote in
message
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Dude, Your brain has ruptured, that stuff dribbling out is
dissolved brain matter. Actually, if all else comes back
negative, then it is spinal misalignment which was my 1st
guess anyway. If it is that, RUN, DO NOT WALK away from
the MD, because there is zippo he can do for you. Find a
good, reputable chiropractor in your area, there are
several referal services available. PLEASE do not let the
MD give you pills (muscle relaxers) and other [censored], they
won't help in the long run. If after a day or two or three
you start getting worse, get out for a run, because if
that mucous stops draining out of your eye, it's going to
find somewhere else to go, and it maybe a far more
sinister place than draining out your eye. As a matter of
fact, I wouldn't stop running at all unless there's other
problems going on like unusual fatigue. Running won't help
it, but it certainly is not the cause, and to start doing
something differently now may not be a good idea. Like I
said, that puss needs to drain, and if not out your eye it
may find somewhere else to buildup. Go to chiro to at
leasdt be examined, you can do that in a day, so why wait
for test resul;ts etc and suffer in the meantime? If it's
not your spine he'll tell you so. Good luck.

"Mrsg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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I visited my family doctor this morning for what I
thought was a strange sinus problem. I would never have
dreamed that I would be sent home

with

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Quoted message said:

orders to take at least a week off from running.
I've been having pain behind my left ear and into my
neck for a

couple

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of weeks. At first I thought that I had just slept wrong
or something.

I

Quoted message said:

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guess that I should have realized that that kind of pain
doesn't hang

around

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quite that long. Over the weekend the head pain became
more severe. It hurts to move

my

Quoted message said:

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head to the left, and the pain behind my ear has
intenisified, and

radiates

Quoted message said:

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into the top of the back of my head now. I had trouble
sleeping last

night,

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and I was nauseated with the pain this morning. That is
what prompted

my

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visit to the doctor. I do have a history of ear
infections in that left ear. The ear has ruptured twice
in the past, and at one time was so irritated that I had
shingles in the ear canal. I told the doctor this
morning that I've also had another weird

thing

Quoted message said:

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going on with that left side that appeared to be
affected by running. That's why the topic of my exercise
habits even came up. In the last

six

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

months when I do long runs of two hours or more I get
this lovely,

yellow

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mucus that comes out of my left eye. This is accompanied
by the loss of hearing in my left ear for about twenty-
four hours. The puss-like stuff

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

bad enough that I have to take my contacts out for the
day because they

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

keep getting scummy. Now to me all of this sounds like
some kind of a sinus thing. The doctor says he suspects
either mastoiditis or bone spurs or degeneration

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

one of the cervical disks in my neck. He prescribed
antibiotics and an anti-inflammatory drug. I'm having an
X-ray of the spine and a CT scan

of

Quoted message said:

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my skull/brain tomorrow. He also says no running until
we figure out

what

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this is. Have any of you had experience with anything
like this? Does terminating my running really sound
necessary? I'm doing what he says,

but

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I don't like it. Michelle

"Sam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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You must be a very good doc to give a diagnosis over the
internet like that as opposed to someone who actually saw
the patient.

I am, and far more qualified too! Truth is, Dr's know squat
about running. When I hurt my back (severe enough for Dr's
to retire a 37YO) many years ago, I asked every Dr, and
every chiropractor I saw (14 MD's alone) if I could run
again, they unanamously, unequivicably said "ABSOLUTELY NOT,
EVER AGAIN SHOULD YOU/WILL YOU RUN". So when all their
advice failed, I went to a chiro (another no-no with a torn
piece (free -floating fragment) of disk moving around, and
went back to running, eventually upping my mileage to my
present day mileage of 9 (minimum) per day.

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I am sure an adjustment from a chiropractor would
cure him....

2 years they said I had a mass on my ass the size of a
grapefruit. After consulting with an oncologist I decided to
forego the nasty "ass-penetration tests", and went to a
chiro. 2 weeks later all symptoms, and the "mass" were gone.
The oncologist (one of the most respected in his field)was
at a loss to explain it. It simply was knotted up muscles.
When it comes to runners and running, Dr's know [censored]!