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  1. From VeloNews:

    Tailwind Sports, owner and operator of the U.S. Postal
    Service Cycling Team, has issued the following announcement
    regarding the pending publication of "LA Confidential: The
    Secrets of Lance Armstrong" a book by David Walsh and Pierre
    Ballester in which the two reporters allege that Armstrong
    has engaged in doping while successfully pursuing his five
    successive victories at the Tour de France.

    ------------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------
    --
    LEGAL NOTICE
    Date: June 14, 2004
    To: News Desks and Legal Departments
    RE: LANCE ARMSTRONG - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Lance Armstrong has reacted with concern and dismay at the false
    allegations made by David Walsh, Chief Sports Writer of the Sunday Times.
    The allegations appear in a forthcoming book entitled 'LA Confidential',
    co-written with Pierre Ballester and to be published in France. Extracts
    from the book have appeared in L'Express and some of the book's allegations
    were repeated in yesterday's Sunday Times.
    Lance Armstrong utterly denies ever having taken any performance enhancing
    drugs.

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his lawyers to immediately
    institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday Times and David Walsh
    seeking an injunction and substantial damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester, the publishers of 'LA
    Confidential' and the publishers of L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow.
    Issued by Schillings, Royalty House

  2. "psycholist" wrote ...

    Quoted message said:


    LEGAL NOTICE

    I hope LA buries them.

    Jim "not a lawyer but my UU sister was first woman partner
    of hers" Flom

  3. Jim Flom said:

    I hope LA buries them. Jim "not a lawyer but my UU sister
    was first woman partner of hers" Flom

    This answer would be better suited to rec.bicycles.misc.

  4. psycholist said:

    From VeloNews:

    Tailwind Sports, owner and operator of the U.S. Postal
    Service Cycling Team, has issued the following
    announcement regarding the pending publication of "LA
    Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong" a book by
    David Walsh and Pierre Ballester in which the two
    reporters allege that Armstrong has engaged in doping
    while successfully pursuing his five successive victories
    at the Tour de France.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ------------------
    --
    LEGAL NOTICE Date: June 14, 2004 To: News Desks and
    Legal Departments RE: LANCE ARMSTRONG - FOR IMMEDIATE
    RELEASE Lance Armstrong has reacted with concern and
    dismay at the false allegations made by David Walsh,
    Chief Sports Writer of the Sunday Times. The allegations
    appear in a forthcoming book entitled 'LA Confidential',
    co-written with Pierre Ballester and to be published in
    France. Extracts from the book have appeared in
    L'Express and some of the book's allegations were
    repeated in yesterday's Sunday Times. Lance Armstrong
    utterly denies ever having taken any performance
    enhancing drugs.

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his lawyers
    to immediately institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday Times
    and David Walsh seeking an injunction and substantial
    damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester, the
    publishers of 'LA Confidential' and the publishers
    of L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow.
    Issued by Schillings, Royalty House

    Shoot, anybody can start a lawsuit.

    Just ask Claudy Criqueleon and Steve Bauer

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    all replies to the list

  5. "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From VeloNews:

    Tailwind Sports, owner and operator of the U.S. Postal
    Service Cycling


    Team,

    Quoted message said:

    has issued the following announcement regarding the
    pending publication of "LA Confidential: The Secrets of
    Lance Armstrong" a book by David Walsh


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pierre Ballester in which the two reporters allege that
    Armstrong has engaged in doping while successfully
    pursuing his five successive


    victories

    Quoted message said:

    at the Tour de France.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------


    --

    Quoted message said:

    --
    LEGAL NOTICE
    Date: June 14, 2004
    To: News Desks and Legal Departments
    RE: LANCE ARMSTRONG - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Lance Armstrong has reacted with concern and dismay at the false
    allegations made by David Walsh, Chief Sports Writer of the Sunday Times.
    The allegations appear in a forthcoming book entitled 'LA Confidential',
    co-written with Pierre Ballester and to be published in France. Extracts
    from the book have appeared in L'Express and some of the book's


    allegations

    Quoted message said:

    were repeated in yesterday's Sunday Times.
    Lance Armstrong utterly denies ever having taken any performance


    enhancing

    Quoted message said:

    drugs.

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his lawyers to immediately
    institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday Times and David Walsh
    seeking an injunction and substantial damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester, the publishers of


    'LA

    Quoted message said:

    Confidential' and the publishers of L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow.
    Issued by Schillings, Royalty House

    IIRC, under the law of libel, he will have to plead the exact words that are
    alleged to be false. It's quite difficult to plead that as to a book neither
    he nor his solicitors have yet read. If Walsh et al. have affidavits from
    the partys quoted attesting to the truthfulness of what they have stated,
    and/or other corroborating evidence to support the truth of what was
    written, there will probably be no injunction. Rather,there may eventually
    be a trial on the merits.

    In addition to being subject to questioning under oath, Armstrong, his
    entourage and his treating physicians to whom he may have made admissions
    against interest will likely be called to trial to give testimony. This is
    going to be great fun. I have the impression from the Times article over the
    weekend, that their solicitors have been preparing for this Armstrong salvo
    for quite some time.

  6. "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From VeloNews:

    Tailwind Sports, owner and operator of the U.S. Postal
    Service Cycling


    Team,

    Quoted message said:

    has issued the following announcement regarding the
    pending publication


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong" a book
    by David Walsh


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pierre Ballester in which the two reporters allege that
    Armstrong has engaged in doping while successfully
    pursuing his five successive


    victories

    Quoted message said:

    at the Tour de France.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------
    --

    Quoted message said:

    --
    LEGAL NOTICE Date: June 14, 2004 To: News Desks and
    Legal Departments RE: LANCE ARMSTRONG - FOR IMMEDIATE
    RELEASE Lance Armstrong has reacted with concern and
    dismay at the false allegations made by David Walsh,
    Chief Sports Writer of the Sunday


    Times.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The allegations appear in a forthcoming book entitled
    'LA Confidential', co-written with Pierre Ballester and
    to be published in France.


    Extracts

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from the book have appeared in L'Express and some of the
    book's


    allegations

    Quoted message said:

    were repeated in yesterday's Sunday Times. Lance
    Armstrong utterly denies ever having taken any
    performance


    enhancing

    Quoted message said:

    drugs.

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his
    lawyers to immediately institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday
    Times and David


    Walsh

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seeking an injunction and substantial damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester,
    the publishers of


    'LA

    Quoted message said:

    Confidential' and the publishers of L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow.
    Issued by Schillings, Royalty House

    IIRC, under the law of libel, he will have to plead the
    exact words that


    are

    Quoted message said:

    alleged to be false. It's quite difficult to plead that as
    to a book


    neither

    Quoted message said:

    he nor his solicitors have yet read. If Walsh et al. have
    affidavits from the partys quoted attesting to the
    truthfulness of what they have stated, and/or other
    corroborating evidence to support the truth of what was
    written, there will probably be no injunction.
    Rather,there may eventually be a trial on the merits.

    In addition to being subject to questioning under oath,
    Armstrong, his entourage and his treating physicians to
    whom he may have made admissions against interest will
    likely be called to trial to give testimony. This


    is

    Quoted message said:

    going to be great fun. I have the impression from the
    Times article over


    the

    Quoted message said:

    weekend, that their solicitors have been preparing for
    this Armstrong


    salvo

    Quoted message said:

    for quite some time.

    "Solicitors" seems like a name that's far more suited to the
    profession, doesn't it? Prostitutes are solicitors.

    But I stray.

    Bob C.

  7. "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5r-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From VeloNews:

    Tailwind Sports, owner and operator of the U.S. Postal
    Service Cycling


    Team,

    Quoted message said:

    has issued the following announcement regarding the
    pending


    publication

    Quoted message said:

    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong" a
    book by David


    Walsh

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pierre Ballester in which the two reporters allege
    that Armstrong has engaged in doping while
    successfully pursuing his five successive


    victories

    Quoted message said:

    at the Tour de France.


    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------

    Quoted message said:

    --

    Quoted message said:

    --
    LEGAL NOTICE Date: June 14, 2004 To: News Desks and
    Legal Departments RE: LANCE ARMSTRONG - FOR
    IMMEDIATE RELEASE Lance Armstrong has reacted with
    concern and dismay at the false allegations made by
    David Walsh, Chief Sports Writer of the Sunday


    Times.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The allegations appear in a forthcoming book
    entitled 'LA


    Confidential',

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    co-written with Pierre Ballester and to be published
    in France.


    Extracts

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from the book have appeared in L'Express and some of
    the book's


    allegations

    Quoted message said:

    were repeated in yesterday's Sunday Times. Lance
    Armstrong utterly denies ever having taken any
    performance


    enhancing

    Quoted message said:

    drugs.

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his
    lawyers to


    immediately

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday
    Times and David


    Walsh

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seeking an injunction and substantial damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester,
    the publishers


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    'LA

    Quoted message said:

    Confidential' and the publishers of L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court
    tomorrow. Issued by Schillings, Royalty House

    IIRC, under the law of libel, he will have to plead the
    exact words that


    are

    Quoted message said:

    alleged to be false. It's quite difficult to plead that
    as to a book


    neither

    Quoted message said:

    he nor his solicitors have yet read. If Walsh et al.
    have affidavits


    from

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the partys quoted attesting to the truthfulness of what
    they have


    stated,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and/or other corroborating evidence to support the truth
    of what was written, there will probably be no
    injunction. Rather,there may


    eventually

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be a trial on the merits.

    In addition to being subject to questioning under oath,
    Armstrong, his entourage and his treating physicians to
    whom he may have made


    admissions

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    against interest will likely be called to trial to give
    testimony. This


    is

    Quoted message said:

    going to be great fun. I have the impression from the
    Times article over


    the

    Quoted message said:

    weekend, that their solicitors have been preparing for
    this Armstrong


    salvo

    Quoted message said:

    for quite some time.

    "Solicitors" seems like a name that's far more suited to
    the profession, doesn't it? Prostitutes are solicitors.

    But I stray.

    Bob C.

    The difference between prostitutes and solicitors is that
    the prostitute will stop screwing you when you're dead.

  8. He can plead "in words, or in substance." The factual
    allegation -- that LA doped -- was clearly made no matter
    what the wording. That being said, any publisher will have
    such an allegation thoroughly vetted and corroborated before
    publication.

    This is going to get REALLY good!

    "B. Lafferty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5rpz-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From VeloNews:

    Tailwind Sports, owner and operator of the U.S. Postal
    Service Cycling


    Team,

    Quoted message said:

    has issued the following announcement regarding the
    pending publication


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    "LA Confidential: The Secrets of Lance Armstrong" a book
    by David Walsh


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pierre Ballester in which the two reporters allege that
    Armstrong has engaged in doping while successfully
    pursuing his five successive


    victories

    Quoted message said:

    at the Tour de France.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------
    --

    Quoted message said:

    --
    LEGAL NOTICE Date: June 14, 2004 To: News Desks and
    Legal Departments RE: LANCE ARMSTRONG - FOR IMMEDIATE
    RELEASE Lance Armstrong has reacted with concern and
    dismay at the false allegations made by David Walsh,
    Chief Sports Writer of the Sunday


    Times.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The allegations appear in a forthcoming book entitled
    'LA Confidential', co-written with Pierre Ballester and
    to be published in France.


    Extracts

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from the book have appeared in L'Express and some of the
    book's


    allegations

    Quoted message said:

    were repeated in yesterday's Sunday Times. Lance
    Armstrong utterly denies ever having taken any
    performance


    enhancing

    Quoted message said:

    drugs.

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his
    lawyers to immediately institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday
    Times and David


    Walsh

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    seeking an injunction and substantial damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester,
    the publishers of


    'LA

    Quoted message said:

    Confidential' and the publishers of L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow.
    Issued by Schillings, Royalty House

    IIRC, under the law of libel, he will have to plead the
    exact words that


    are

    Quoted message said:

    alleged to be false. It's quite difficult to plead that as
    to a book


    neither

    Quoted message said:

    he nor his solicitors have yet read. If Walsh et al. have
    affidavits from the partys quoted attesting to the
    truthfulness of what they have stated, and/or other
    corroborating evidence to support the truth of what was
    written, there will probably be no injunction.
    Rather,there may eventually be a trial on the merits.

    In addition to being subject to questioning under oath,
    Armstrong, his entourage and his treating physicians to
    whom he may have made admissions against interest will
    likely be called to trial to give testimony. This


    is

    Quoted message said:

    going to be great fun. I have the impression from the
    Times article over


    the

    Quoted message said:

    weekend, that their solicitors have been preparing for
    this Armstrong


    salvo

    Quoted message said:

    for quite some time.

  9. The libel laws in England are tilted towards Lance. He has a
    much lower threshold to prove than in the US. That being
    said, the Times must have a solid case or the would not
    expose themselves.

    I think it's another Lance, "chip on my shoulder, the
    world's out to get me" motavational trick to win the TdF.

    "psycholist" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From VeloNews:

    Tailwind Sports, owner and operator of the U.S. Postal
    Service Cycling


    Team,

    Quoted message said:

    has issued the following announcement regarding the
    pending publication of "LA Confidential: The Secrets of
    Lance Armstrong" a book by David Walsh


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Pierre Ballester in which the two reporters allege that
    Armstrong has engaged in doping while successfully
    pursuing his five successive


    victories

    Quoted message said:

    at the Tour de France.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    ----------------


    --

    Quoted message said:

    --
    LEGAL NOTICE
    Date: June 14, 2004
    To: News Desks and Legal Departments
    RE: LANCE ARMSTRONG - FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    Lance Armstrong has reacted with concern and dismay at the false
    allegations made by David Walsh, Chief Sports Writer of the Sunday Times.
    The allegations appear in a forthcoming book entitled 'LA Confidential',
    co-written with Pierre Ballester and to be published in France. Extracts
    from the book have appeared in L'Express and some of the book's


    allegations

    Quoted message said:

    were repeated in yesterday's Sunday Times.
    Lance Armstrong utterly denies ever having taken any performance


    enhancing

    Quoted message said:

    drugs.

    Accordingly, Lance Armstrong has instructed his lawyers to immediately
    institute libel proceedings

    1) In the High Court in London against the Sunday Times and David Walsh
    seeking an injunction and substantial damages
    2) In Paris, against David Walsh, Pierre Ballester, the publishers of


    'LA

    Quoted message said:

    Confidential' and the publishers of L'Express.

    Proceedings will be filed in the High Court tomorrow.
    Issued by Schillings, Royalty House

  10. Davey Crockett said:
    Quoted message said:

    Shoot, anybody can start a lawsuit.

    True. Any dumbass can "write" a book too. LA, GWB, GL, Neil
    Cavuto... LOL.

  11. Luc said:


    That being said, the Times must have a solid case or the
    would not expose themselves.

    That or they didn't actually "say" as much as the marketing
    of the book suggests they are going to say (to pump up
    sales). Time will tell.

    Quoted message said:

    I think it's another Lance, "chip on my shoulder, the
    world's out to get me" motavational trick to win the TdF.

    Huh? He didn't write the book accusing himself of doping.

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