Windsor Bikes

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor Bikes?
I'm planing on buying one but cant get any independent
info. Thanks Gary

If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a
Mexican brand that produced Cinneli copies (some quite good,
as a matter of fact) and several other bikes during the
'seventies (look out for bad paint and sloppy welds on the
frame, though... unskilled Mexican labor, don'tcha know).

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If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a
Mexican brand that produced Cinneli copies (some quite
good, as a matter of fact) and several other bikes
during the 'seventies (look out for bad paint and sloppy
welds on the frame, though... unskilled Mexican labor,
don'tcha know).

I never saw a welded Windsor, they were all lugged and
brazed. Poor paint was common on Italian bikes of the
same period. And did you ever look at the paint and
welding on a 70s Huffy? Unskilled American labor,
don'tcha know. Phil Brown

Phil Brown said:

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If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a
Mexican brand

that

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produced Cinneli copies (some quite good, as a matter of
fact) and

several

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other bikes during the 'seventies (look out for bad paint
and sloppy welds on the frame, though... unskilled
Mexican labor, don'tcha know).

I never saw a welded Windsor, they were all lugged and
brazed. Poor paint

was

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common on Italian bikes of the same period. And did you
ever look at the

paint

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and welding on a 70s Huffy? Unskilled American labor,
don'tcha know. Phil Brown

Most likely the OP is talking about a new "Windsor" which is
an inexpensive Chinese made bike sold mostly through mail
order and the internet. Caveat Emptor.

Art Harris

Arthur Harris said:

Phil Brown said:

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If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a
Mexican brand

that

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produced Cinneli copies (some quite good, as a matter of
fact) and

several

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other bikes during the 'seventies (look out for bad
paint and sloppy welds on the frame, though... unskilled
Mexican labor, don'tcha know).

I never saw a welded Windsor, they were all lugged and
brazed. Poor paint

was

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common on Italian bikes of the same period. And did you
ever look at the

paint

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and welding on a 70s Huffy? Unskilled American labor,
don'tcha know. Phil Brown

Most likely the OP is talking about a new "Windsor" which
is an inexpensive Chinese made bike sold mostly through
mail order and the internet. Caveat Emptor.

Art Harris

Dear Garrison, Phil, and Arthur,

Actually, the Windsors are a low-quality German import from
Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha re-badged for marketing purposes during
the Great War.

Æthelred II

Arthur Harris said:

Phil Brown said:

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If you're talking about an older bike, "Windsor" was a
Mexican

brand that

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produced Cinneli copies (some quite good, as a matter of
fact) and several other bikes during the 'seventies
(look out for bad paint and sloppy welds on the frame,
though... unskilled Mexican labor, don'tcha know).

I never saw a welded Windsor, they were all lugged and
brazed. Poor paint was common on Italian bikes of the
same period. And did you ever look at the paint and
welding on a 70s Huffy? Unskilled American labor,
don'tcha know. Phil Brown

Most likely the OP is talking about a new "Windsor" which
is an inexpensive Chinese made bike sold mostly through
mail order and the internet. Caveat Emptor.

I've heard these old brand names are being reused by people
unrelated to the brand originally. The brands had fallen
into disuse, and the names not protected, so anyone can pick
them up and start using them again. I believe the current
Windsors fall into this category. I have no idea about the
bikes themselves, or the people selling them though. They
may be terrific, or terrible

Matt O.

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor
Bikes? I'm planing on buying one but cant get any
independent info.

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker a
while ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a
Windsor Profesional (Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in
Mexico"😉 track bike that's probably 25 years old or so- a
nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

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(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor
Bikes? I'm planing on buying one but cant get any
independent info.

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker
a while ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a
Windsor Profesional (Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in
Mexico"😉 track bike that's probably 25 years old or so- a
nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing
special but a decent value. I believe that someone purchased
the Windsor name and started importing low-end bikes with
the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

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One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing
special but a decent value. I believe that someone
purchased the Windsor name and started importing low-end
bikes with the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

Oh, THAT jerk... he bought the Motobecane name, too!

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One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing
special but a

decent

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value. I believe that someone purchased the Windsor name
and started importing low-end bikes with the Windsor
name. My son's bike came from www.bikesdirect.com

Oh, THAT jerk... he bought the Motobecane name, too!

And a few others.

Tim McNamara said:

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor
Bikes? I'm planing on buying one but cant get any
independent info.

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker
a while ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a
Windsor Profesional (Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in
Mexico"😉 track bike that's probably 25 years old or so- a
nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

As it should be, since the founder of Windsor in Mexico was
a former Cinelli employee. And another Windsor employee (Tim
Isaac) left to become the frame designer at Trek in the
early 1980's.

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-John ([email hidden])

OMG, I haven't even SEEN a Windsor since the middle 1970's!
Are they really still made?

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"May you have the wind at your back. And a really low gear
for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

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Gary Cole said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor
Bikes? I'm planing on buying one but cant get any
independent info. Thanks Gary

Year? Model? Fit? Condition? Equipment?

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1
April, 1971

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One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing
special but a decent value. I believe that someone
purchased the Windsor name and started importing low-end
bikes with the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

Garrison Hilliard said:

Oh, THAT jerk... he bought the Motobecane name, too!

"bought" ? really??

--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1
April, 1971

John Thompson said:

Tim McNamara said:

(Gary Cole) said:

Does anyone know anything,good or bad, about Windsor
Bikes? I'm planing on buying one but cant get any
independent info.

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known
maker a while ago but I thought they were long gone. I
have a Windsor Profesional (Spanish spelling as it was
"Hecho in Mexico"😉 track bike that's probably 25 years
old or so- a nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

As it should be, since the founder of Windsor in Mexico
was a former Cinelli employee.

Yup, it's a very faithful Cinelli copy and rides very
nicely. I raced it in the velodrome for a few years and now
use it as my commuter and fun single speed bike with a
coaster brake hub.

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And another Windsor employee (Tim Isaac) left to become
the frame designer at Trek in the early 1980's.

Possibly the same Tim Isaac who started Match in the
NorthWest and built some Rivendell frames until going out
of business?

Tim McNamara said:

John Thompson said:

And another Windsor employee (Tim Isaac) left to become
the frame designer at Trek in the early 1980's.

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Possibly the same Tim Isaac who started Match in the
NorthWest and built some Rivendell frames until going out
of business?

Quite likely. After leaving Trek, Isaac worked for Raleigh-
USA in Washington.

I have some pics of my TS Isaac bike here:

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One of my sons has a Windsor track bike. It is nothing
special but a decent value. I believe that someone
purchased the Windsor name and started importing low-end
bikes with the Windsor name. My son's bike came from
www.bikesdirect.com

Garrison Hilliard said:

Oh, THAT jerk... he bought the Motobecane name, too!

"bought" ? really??

I'm not too sure there, but I thought MBK still existed in
some form when David Sander started using the "Motobecane"
mark and it follows that Sander probably did pay a minor
amount for the complete rights (or, of course, maybe not).

p.s. About the new "Windsor": groups.google.comgroupsOpen ↗
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Tim McNamara said:

Is Windsor still in business? They were a well known maker
a while ago but I thought they were long gone. I have a
Windsor Profesional (Spanish spelling as it was "Hecho in
Mexico"😉 track bike that's probably 25 years old or so- a
nice bike, basically a Cinelli copy.

Oh, that must be the model Eddy set the hour record on. ;->

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Art Harris