OT: echt-decor?

"Kate Connally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate
--

Echt means authentic or genuine in German.

--
Peter Aitken

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in article [email hidden], Kate Connally at [email hidden]
wrote on 6/7/04 1:51 PM:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate

Echt = authentic, I would think. It's German. Larry

Here's definition of "echt" from on-line German-English
dictionary. Seems to mean "typical" decor.
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echt [?çt] 1 Adjektiv, Adverba real; genuine [Gefühle] real;
genuine; sincere [Haar, Perlen, Gold] real [Unterschrift,
Geldschein, Gemälde] genuine [Haarfarbe] natural der
Geldschein war nicht echt the note was a forgery; the note
was forged b (= typisch) typical ein echter Bayer a real or
typical Bavarian c [Farbe] fast d (Mathematik) echter Bruch
proper fraction

2 Adverba (= typisch) typically echt Tiroler Trachten
original Tyrolean costumes echt englisch typically English
echt Shakespeare typical of Shakespeare; typically
Shakespearean echt Franz/Frau typical of or just like
Franz/a woman; Franz/a woman all over (umgangssprachlich)
b (= rein) der Ring ist echt golden/silbern the ring is
real gold/silver echt silbern real silver c
(umgangssprachlich: = wirklich) really meinst du das echt?
do you really or honestly mean that? der spinnt doch echt
he must be cracked (umgangssprachlich); he must be round
the bend (umgangssprachlich) ich hab's echt eilig I'm
really in a hurry

English to German German to English English Definition

Kate Connally said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate

As Larry said:

"echt" in German means - in this context at least - genuine,
authentic in contrast to fake.

--Werner

Werner Saurer said:

Kate Connally said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate

As Larry said:

"echt" in German means - in this context at least -
genuine, authentic in contrast to fake.

--Werner

Hmmm, so the review should have said "all of their
restaurant's echt-decor comes from Ethiopia. The rest is
not echt." ?

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

Peter Aitken said:

"Kate Connally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate
--

Echt means authentic or genuine in German.

Okay, but is that what it means in that phrase or does the
phrase as a whole have a different connotation?

Kate

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Werner Saurer said:

Kate Connally said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate

As Larry said:

"echt" in German means - in this context at least -
genuine, authentic in contrast to fake.

--Werner

Great. That's what I was looking for. Thanks, Kate

--
Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead
already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey
really *is* what it's all about? "][email hidden]

Kate Connally said:

Peter Aitken said:

"Kate Connally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate
--

Echt means authentic or genuine in German.

Okay, but is that what it means in that phrase or does the
phrase as a whole have a different connotation?

Kate

Does it make sense when substituted into the sentence? Yep,
sure does. Don't let it get over your head.

jim

Curly Sue said:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 15:54:44 +0200, Werner Saurer <[email hidden]-

sb.de said:

Kate Connally said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate

As Larry said:

"echt" in German means - in this context at least -
genuine, authentic in contrast to fake.

--Werner

Hmmm, so the review should have said "all of their
restaurant's echt-decor comes from Ethiopia. The rest is
not echt." ?

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it
myself!

No, the sentence communicates precisely what it set out to
do. Ethiopians live in other places than Ethiopia and
decorative items from those folks may be excluded in your
sentences, but not in the other.

jim

(Curly Sue) said:

Hmmm, so the review should have said "all of their
restaurant's echt-decor comes from Ethiopia. The rest is
not echt." ?

Or perhaps it should have said at the end "the writer of
this piece is a pretentious showoff who is more interested
in attempting to impress the reader with his or her
knowledge of a few words of a foreign language than in
conveying anything meaningful".

I read the (dubious) phrase in context as "the stuff
that we have installed to make the place look
authentic", by the way.

By the way I do speak German - I'm not piqued at them using
a phrase I didn't understand immediately (I did); I'm
annoyed about someone choosing pretension over content.

--
Tony

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Peter Aitken said:

"Kate Connally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate
--

Echt means authentic or genuine in German.

Okay, but is that what it means in that phrase or does the
phrase as a whole have a different connotation?

Kate

Authentic decor. The trend in reviews is to use some German,
like 'über-friendly', etc. The opposiste of echt would be
ersatz, or artificial. 'Ersatz decor' would describe a
Denny's or some chain joint.

Last year it was Spanish; think 'muy' this and 'muy' that.
Muy Simpatico, muy bueno, muy spicy.

Jack Esperantoberfest

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:07:07 -0400, Kate Connally <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Peter Aitken said:

"Kate Connally" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
them explained the term. Kate
--

Echt means authentic or genuine in German.

Okay, but is that what it means in that phrase or does the
phrase as a whole have a different connotation?

I take it to mean the reviewer was trying to out-vocabulary
his audience. Judging from the picture on the echt-
restaurant's web site, I'd say it meant "the restaurant's
ethnic-inspired decor includes genuine items from Ethiopia."
It's not *all* echt, but there *are* echt parts. :-)

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:31:02 -0700, JimLane <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Curly Sue said:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 15:54:44 +0200, Werner Saurer <[email hidden]-

sb.de said:

Kate Connally wrote:

>Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
>newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
>regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
>restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
>searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
>them explained the term. Kate

As Larry said:

"echt" in German means - in this context at least -
genuine, authentic in contrast to fake.

--Werner

Hmmm, so the review should have said "all of their
restaurant's echt-decor comes from Ethiopia. The rest is
not echt." ?

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it
myself!

No, the sentence communicates precisely what it set out to
do. Ethiopians live in other places than Ethiopia and
decorative items from those folks may be excluded in your
sentences, but not in the other.

True. I guess it all boils down to the author making a
silly distinction. If authentic Ethiopian decor can be
made anywhere, it doesn't make a difference if it comes
from Ethiopia!

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

JimLane said:

Curly Sue said:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 15:54:44 +0200, Werner Saurer <[email hidden]-

sb.de said:

Kate Connally wrote:

> Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
> newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
> regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
> restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
> searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none of
> them explained the term. Kate

As Larry said:

"echt" in German means - in this context at least -
genuine, authentic in contrast to fake.

--Werner

Hmmm, so the review should have said "all of their
restaurant's echt-decor comes from Ethiopia. The rest is
not echt." ?

Sue(tm) Lead me not into temptation... I can find it
myself!

No, the sentence communicates precisely what it set out to
do. Ethiopians live in other places than Ethiopia and
decorative items from those folks may be excluded in your
sentences, but not in the other.

jim

Tony and Curly Sue hit the nail on the head:
pretentiousness. My gripe also.

jim

Frogleg said:

Kate Connally said:

Peter Aitken said:

"Kate Connally" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
> newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
> regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
> restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I tried
> searching on the web and got a lot of hits but none
> of them explained the term. Kate
> --

Echt means authentic or genuine in German.

Okay, but is that what it means in that phrase or does
the phrase as a whole have a different connotation?

I take it to mean the reviewer was trying to out-
vocabulary his audience. Judging from the picture on the
echt-restaurant's web site, I'd say it meant "the
restaurant's ethnic-inspired decor includes genuine items
from Ethiopia." It's not *all* echt, but there *are* echt
parts. :-)

That sounds about right. I think he was referring to the
paintings on the walls and the basket tables. Everything
else is more or less not specific to Etiopia.

Kate

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Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead
already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey
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In article <[email hidden]>, Kate Connally

Quoted message said:

Frogleg said:

Kate Connally said:

Peter Aitken wrote:
>
> "Kate Connally" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

> > Does anyone know what this means? It was used in a
> > newspaper review of our new Ethiopian restaurant in
> > regard to the, what else, decor? "Some of their
> > restaurant's echt-décor comes from Ethiopia." I
> > tried searching on the web and got a lot of hits
> > but none of them explained the term. Kate
> > --
>
> Echt means authentic or genuine in German.

Okay, but is that what it means in that phrase or does
the phrase as a whole have a different connotation?

I take it to mean the reviewer was trying to out-
vocabulary his audience. Judging from the picture on the
echt-restaurant's web site, I'd say it meant "the
restaurant's ethnic-inspired decor includes genuine
items from Ethiopia." It's not *all* echt, but there
*are* echt parts. :-)

That sounds about right. I think he was referring to the
paintings on the walls and the basket tables. Everything
else is more or less not specific to Etiopia.

Kate\

And in reality, it probably means that the owner made a
large investment in what is known as "airport art" so much
for echt..... billfrogg.

billfrogg said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Kate Connally

Quoted message said:

Frogleg said:

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:07:07 -0400, Kate Connally
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Peter Aitken wrote:
>>
>> "Kate Connally" <[email hidden]> wrote

>> > Does anyone know what this means? It was used in
>> > a newspaper review of our new Ethiopian
>> > restaurant in regard to the, what else, decor?
>> > "Some of their restaurant's echt-décor comes from
>> > Ethiopia." I tried searching on the web and got a
>> > lot of hits but none of them explained the term.
>> > Kate
>> > --
>>
>> Echt means authentic or genuine in German.
>
>Okay, but is that what it means in that phrase or
>does the phrase as a whole have a different
>connotation?

I take it to mean the reviewer was trying to out-
vocabulary his audience. Judging from the picture on
the echt-restaurant's web site, I'd say it meant "the
restaurant's ethnic-inspired decor includes genuine
items from Ethiopia." It's not *all* echt, but there
*are* echt parts. :-)

That sounds about right. I think he was referring to the
paintings on the walls and the basket tables. Everything
else is more or less not specific to Etiopia.

Kate\

And in reality, it probably means that the owner made a
large investment in what is known as "airport art" so much
for echt..... billfrogg.

Not sure what "airport" art is.

Well, here's what they have. The floor is nicely polished
wood - looks new. Don't know the technical stuff about wood
floors so just say it looks nice. The walls are painted a
sort of burnt sienna - earthtone - very cozy and warm and
inviting. There are paintings on the walls. Not too many -
about 6-8, they are all the same size and style. The
painting itself is on what looks like some sort of hide -
could be ersatz hide. The hide is stretched between the
edges of the frame which are a dark wood - rather plain. Not
sure if the wood in stained really dark or painted. Can't
recall if it's dark brown or black. The hide is attached by
leather-looking thongs wrapped through holes in the edge of
the hide and then wrapped around the frame. The hide is sort
of floating in the center and doesn't reach all the way to
the frame so there is about an inch of space between hide
and frame. There are Ethiopian subjects painted on the hide.
People doing various things. One is a mother carrying a
child. Can't recall the rest. The technical quality of the
painting is rather amateurish (not primitive - just
amateurish). The paintings give a nice ambiance to the room
and are not so bad you can't stand looking at them, but not
the greatest art in the world. It's possible they are mass
produced, but unlike the many horrid pictures one sees in
Indian restaurant on black velvet, these are a pleasant
departure from that sort of thing. The tables and chairs are
very simple dark wood. There are about 4 basket tables which
are woven of something like straw or wicker or rushes or
whatever. They are a "natural" beige color with designs
woven in in red and other colors. They are surrounded by
short plain wooden stools. The whole thing is fairly simple
and uncluttered with warm dark colors.

Kate
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Kate Connally “If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead
already.” Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.” What if the hokey pokey
really *is* what it's all about? "][email hidden]