Insomnia with Lipitor

Hi Tom I have been taking 40mg of lipitor every day for the past 4 months.
I was advised to take it at night time. It hasn't stopped me sleeping since
I started it. Maybe others have experience of it
Gill
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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another statin
that may have less an effect

on

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sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

Hi Tom ... I have been taking 20 mg of lipitor for over 6
years now ... I also take mine in the morning. I read
somewhere that with lipitor it did not make a difference if
it was taken in the morning or night. Getting to your
question though, I did not have any sleep problems that were
noticeable though. I normally sleep about 6 1/2 hours a day.
Maybe a quick trip to the doctor about this? Good luck ...

doug

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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another statin
that may have less an effect

on

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sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

hi Tom , I was taking 40 mg Lipitor in the morning but was actually getting
around like a zombie when I went off them it was like a weight off my head
take care Balsey
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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another statin
that may have less an effect

on

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sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another statin
that may have less an effect on sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

Salut Tom

You may wish to print this out and take it to your doctor.
But because it is replete with charts and graphs make sure
you copy out the url too so he/she will be able to go online
to read them fully. Your doctor will see that statins are
not recommended for "primary prevention". (You). Also
acquaint your physician with Dr. Paul Phillips of Scripps
Mercy San Diego, who is running studies on mitochondrial
myopathy caused by statins, and the work of Dr. Beatrice
Golomb, who has a NIH funded study on non-cario endpoints of
statin use. ZEE

ti.ubc.caletter48.htmOpen ↗

"Do statins have a role in primary prevention? Conclusions:
If cardiovascular serious adverse events are viewed in
isolation, 71 primary prevention patients with
cardiovascular risk factors have to be treated with a
statin for 3 to 5 years to prevent one myocardial
infarction or stroke.

This cardiovascular benefit is not reflected in 2 measures
of overall health impact, total mortality and total
serious adverse events. Therefore, statins have not been
shown to provide an overall health benefit in primary
prevention trials."

The Therapeutics Initiative presents critically appraised
summary evidence primarily from controlled drug trials. Such
evidence applies to patients similar to those involved in
the trails, and may not be generalizable to every patient.
We are committed to evaluate the effectiveness of our
educational activities using the Pharmacare/PharmaNet
databases without identifying individual physicians,
pharmacies or patients. The Therapeutics Initiative is
funded by the BC Ministry of Health through a 5-year grant
to the University of BC. The Therapeutics Initiative
provides evidence based advice about drug therapy, and is
not responsible for formulating or adjudicating provincial
drug policies.

This is a board where people experiencing statin side
effects share information. All statin side effects:
rxlist.comlipitor.plOpen ↗

Some on sleeplessness. There will be more if you search.
rxlist.comlipitor.plOpen ↗

A recent story on statin induced memory loss: cb-cb-Open ↗
snews.com/stories/2004/05/24/eveningnews/main619351.shtml

There seem to be people who can take statins without side
effects. If you aren't one go over this information
carefully with your doctor. Go over it carefully anyway.

As everyone here can attest, I have more info if you need
it.

Zee

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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another statin
that may have less an effect on sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

Ooops forgot this. There are hits here on lipitor and
insomnia. medications.comLipitorOpen ↗

Zee

Absolutely Lipitor causes severe insomnia in patients
- Pfizer says so in writing, and it definitely did in
my husband.

Pfizer states that INSOMNIA is one of the known
adverse effects.

See lipitor.comlipitorDeOpen ↗
sktop?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=prescribingInformation

This is the Pfizer website, with the FDA-approved label
information. Note that under the

"Clinical Adverse Experiences" section it states: "The
following adverse events were reported, regardless of
causality assessment in patients treated with atorvastatin
in clinical trials. The events in italics occurred in 2%
of patients and the events in plain type occurred in <2%
of patients"

Under "Nervous System" in ITALICS (indicating 2% of
patients) it is listed:

INSOMNIA

Full list of neurological problems known to be associated
with Lipitor use in this section (Asthenia (i.e., Weakness;
lack of energy and strength) is listed in the table prior to
this section):

"Nervous System: Insomnia, dizziness, paresthesia,
somnolence, amnesia, abnormal dreams, libido decreased,
emotional lability, incoordination, peripheral neuropathy,
torticollis, facial paralysis, hyperkinesia, depression,
hypesthesia, hypertonia"

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Quoted message said:

I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another statin
that may have less an effect

on

Quoted message said:

sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

"Tom R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another statin
that may have less an effect on sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

Tom here is the sleep disorders board I mentioned. If you
use your browser "find" function for lipitor, insomnia
etc you'll find several hits. Prior to taking lipitor I
had not had insomnia. Since stopping statins I have not
had insomnia.

sleephomepage.orgmsgs.htmlOpen ↗

Zee

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Hi Tom I have been taking 40mg of lipitor every day for
the past 4 months. I was advised to take it at night time.
It hasn't stopped me sleeping since I started it. Maybe
others have experience of it Gill "Tom R"
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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another
statin that may have less an effect

on

Quoted message said:

sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

I took lipitor for over a year and suffered terrible
insommnia, which mitigated immediately: the first day I
didn't take it, I slept five hours without waking. It was
unbelievable, and answered my question about it. Everytime I
started taking Lipitor again (I was told I had to) I would
be sleepless. I stuck with it. I began experiencing terrible
leg pain. My exercise physiologist said there is a hormone
excreted (Andrew?) during sleep that repairs minor muscle
tears from everyday living and when you don't sleep it
isn't. Coupled with other cogntive adverse effect which I
experienced from lipitor (for I think this was to do with a
gland in the brain) I finally stopped taking Lipitor. I took
Baycol, then. And that's another story.

Most of the people I know who took Lipitor and had adverse
effects had insommnia, and I know there is at least *one*
university sleep lab that has a website chat board where you
can find people discussing their Lipitor insommnia. I'm
still searching for it. Will post when I find it.

Zee

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Gill wrote in article
<[email hidden]>:

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Hi Tom I have been taking 40mg of lipitor every day for the
past 4 months. I was advised to take it at night time. It
hasn't stopped me sleeping since I started it. Maybe others
have experience of it

And I've been on Lipitor for six years, currently at 80mg
taken with evening meal--I was told the body produces
relatively more cholesterol over night, so that's when the
statins are most effective. Nothing stops me from sleeping,
though I need less sleep now than when I was younger. One of
the (dis?) advantages of aging.

I can't recall every hearing of sleeplessness in relation
to statins.

Quoted message said:

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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another
statin that may have less an effect

on

Quoted message said:

sleep?

Is there any reason to believe your mind might be active and
keeping you awake from concern about your health? Even if
not, it might be helpful for you and your doctor to have a
heart to heart conversation.
--
Don [email hidden]

I spoke w/ my Dr over the phone about this problem. He
suggested that I cut back to 5 mg to see what happens. He
also said that he would try me on other statins if I wanted.
I just wanted to avoid months of trial and error if I could.

Tom R.

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Hi Tom ... I have been taking 20 mg of lipitor for over
6 years now ... I also take mine in the morning. I read
somewhere that with lipitor it did not make a
difference if it was taken in the morning or night.
Getting to your question though, I did not have any
sleep problems that were

noticeable

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though. I normally sleep about 6 1/2 hours a day. Maybe a
quick trip to the doctor about this? Good luck ...

doug

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Body & Freedoms "Tom R"
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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago.

Since

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starting I have had moderate to severe insomnia usually
getting only 2 -

3

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hours of sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a period
of time (weeks, months)? Is insomnia a side effect of
Lipitor or is it a side effect of statins in general? Is
there another statin that may have less an effect

on

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sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side

effect.

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Tom R.

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Absolutely Lipitor causes severe insomnia in patients -
Pfizer says so in writing, and it definitely did in my
husband.

Pfizer states that INSOMNIA is one of the known adverse
effects.

Sharon that's an outright lie. They say that insomnia was
noted in greater than 2% of the population studied. They say
nothing about about it being a known adverse effect. They
say nothing about Lipitor causing "severe insomnia" Only
that it occurred in greater than 2% of the study population.
My guess is that insomnia occurs in greater than 2% of the
general population. So this proves nothing.

Bill

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See

lipitor.comlipitorDesktoOpen ↗
p?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=prescribingInformation

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This is the Pfizer website, with the FDA-approved label
information. Note that under the

"Clinical Adverse Experiences" section it states: "The
following adverse events were reported, regardless of
causality assessment in patients treated with atorvastatin
in clinical trials. The events in italics occurred in 2%
of patients and the events in plain type occurred in <2%
of patients"

Under "Nervous System" in ITALICS (indicating 2% of
patients) it is listed:

INSOMNIA

Full list of neurological problems known to be associated
with Lipitor use in this section (Asthenia (i.e.,
Weakness; lack of energy and strength) is listed in the
table prior to this section):

"Nervous System: Insomnia, dizziness, paresthesia,
somnolence, amnesia, abnormal dreams, libido decreased,
emotional lability, incoordination, peripheral neuropathy,
torticollis, facial paralysis, hyperkinesia, depression,
hypesthesia, hypertonia"

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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over 3
weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to severe
insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of sleep. Does
the insomnia subside after a period of time (weeks,
months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it a
side effect of statins in general? Is there another
statin that may have less an effect

on

Quoted message said:

sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced with
this side effect.

Tom R.

Thanks for the info. Would like to follow-up with that link
if you find it.

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Hi Tom I have been taking 40mg of lipitor every day for
the past 4

months.

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I was advised to take it at night time. It hasn't
stopped me sleeping

since

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I started it. Maybe others have experience of it Gill
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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over
3 weeks ago.

Since

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starting I have had moderate to severe insomnia
usually getting only

2 - 3

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hours of sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a
period of time

(weeks,

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months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it
a side effect

of

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statins in general? Is there another statin that may
have less an

effect

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on

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sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced
with this side

effect.

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Tom R.

I took lipitor for over a year and suffered terrible
insommnia, which mitigated immediately: the first day I
didn't take it, I slept five hours without waking. It was
unbelievable, and answered my question about it. Everytime
I started taking Lipitor again (I was told I had to) I
would be sleepless. I stuck with it. I began experiencing
terrible leg pain. My exercise physiologist said there is
a hormone excreted (Andrew?) during sleep that repairs
minor muscle tears from everyday living and when you don't
sleep it isn't. Coupled with other cogntive adverse effect
which I experienced from lipitor (for I think this was to
do with a gland in the brain) I finally stopped taking
Lipitor. I took Baycol, then. And that's another story.

Most of the people I know who took Lipitor and had adverse
effects had insommnia, and I know there is at least *one*
university sleep lab that has a website chat board where
you can find people discussing their Lipitor insommnia.
I'm still searching for it. Will post when I find it.

Zee

My health is fine, so I am not worrying about that. My
cholesterol is borderline high and with my family history my
Dr wanted me to try a statin.

Tom R.

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It seems to me I heard somewhere that Gill wrote in
article <[email hidden]>:

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Hi Tom I have been taking 40mg of lipitor every day for
the past 4

months.

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Quoted message said:

I was advised to take it at night time. It hasn't stopped
me sleeping

since

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I started it. Maybe others have experience of it

And I've been on Lipitor for six years, currently at 80mg
taken with evening meal--I was told the body produces
relatively more cholesterol over night, so that's when the
statins are most effective. Nothing stops me from
sleeping, though I need less sleep now than when I was
younger. One of the (dis?) advantages of aging.

I can't recall every hearing of sleeplessness in relation
to statins.

Quoted message said:

"Tom R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0zIxc.52550$_k3.1315577@bgtnsc05-
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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over
3 weeks ago.

Since

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Quoted message said:

starting I have had moderate to severe insomnia usually
getting only

2 - 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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hours of sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a
period of time

(weeks,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it
a side effect

of

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Quoted message said:

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statins in general? Is there another statin that may
have less an

effect

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Quoted message said:

on

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sleep?

Is there any reason to believe your mind might be active
and keeping you awake from concern about your health? Even
if not, it might be helpful for you and your doctor to
have a heart to heart conversation.
--
Don [email hidden]

Did your doctor tell you that Insomnia is listed on the
Lipitor label? If not, why not?

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I spoke w/ my Dr over the phone about this problem. He
suggested that I

cut

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back to 5 mg to see what happens. He also said that he
would try me on

other

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statins if I wanted. I just wanted to avoid months of
trial and error if I could.

Tom R.

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69,70,71> wrote in message news:qtCdnU71Oa2qUlrdRVn-
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Hi Tom ... I have been taking 20 mg of lipitor for over
6 years now ...

I

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also take mine in the morning. I read somewhere that
with lipitor it

did

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not make a difference if it was taken in the morning or
night. Getting

to

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your question though, I did not have any sleep problems
that were

noticeable

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though. I normally sleep about 6 1/2 hours a day. Maybe
a quick trip

to

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the doctor about this? Good luck ...

doug

--
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Body & Freedoms "Tom R"
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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over
3 weeks ago.

Since

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starting I have had moderate to severe insomnia
usually getting only

2 -

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3

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hours of sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a
period of time

(weeks,

Quoted message said:

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months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it
a side effect

of

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statins in general? Is there another statin that may
have less an

effect

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on

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sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced
with this side

effect.

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Tom R.

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"Sharon Hope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Absolutely Lipitor causes severe insomnia in patients -
Pfizer says so in writing, and it definitely did in my
husband.

Pfizer states that INSOMNIA is one of the known adverse
effects.

Sharon that's an outright lie. They say that insomnia was
noted in greater than 2% of the population studied. They
say nothing about about it being a known adverse effect.
They say nothing about Lipitor causing "severe insomnia"
Only that it occurred in greater than 2% of the study
population. My guess is that insomnia occurs in greater
than 2% of the general population. So this proves nothing.

Bill

Didn't you mean "less than"? It's states: "The events in
*italics* occurred in >2% of patients and the events in
plain type occurred in <2% of patients."

Insomnia is in italics.

L

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See

lipitor.comlipitorDesktOpen ↗
op?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=prescribingInformation

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This is the Pfizer website, with the FDA-approved label
information. Note that under the

"Clinical Adverse Experiences" section it states: "The
following adverse events were reported, regardless of
causality assessment in patients treated with
atorvastatin in clinical trials. The events in italics
occurred in 2% of patients and the events in plain type
occurred in <2% of patients"

Under "Nervous System" in ITALICS (indicating 2% of
patients) it is listed:

INSOMNIA

Full list of neurological problems known to be associated
with Lipitor use in this section (Asthenia (i.e.,
Weakness; lack of energy and strength) is listed in the
table prior to this section):

"Nervous System: Insomnia, dizziness, paresthesia,
somnolence, amnesia, abnormal dreams, libido decreased,
emotional lability, incoordination, peripheral
neuropathy, torticollis, facial paralysis, hyperkinesia,
depression, hypesthesia, hypertonia"

"Tom R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0zIxc.52550$_k3.1315577@bgtnsc05-
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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over
3 weeks ago. Since starting I have had moderate to
severe insomnia usually getting only 2 - 3 hours of
sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a period of time
(weeks, months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor
or is it a side effect of statins in general? Is there
another statin that may have less an effect

on

Quoted message said:

sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced
with this side effect.

Tom R.

Lipitor caused severe insomnia in 100% of the statin takers
in our household.

As for the lying, read the label - it says "Clinical Adverse
xperiences" - if it is a lie, it is Pfizer's lie.

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"Sharon Hope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Absolutely Lipitor causes severe insomnia in patients -
Pfizer says so

in

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writing, and it definitely did in my husband.

Pfizer states that INSOMNIA is one of the known adverse
effects.

Sharon that's an outright lie. They say that insomnia was
noted in greater than 2% of the population studied. They
say nothing about about it being a known adverse effect.
They say nothing about Lipitor causing "severe insomnia"
Only that it occurred in greater than 2% of the study

population.

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My guess is that insomnia occurs in greater than 2% of
the general

population.

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So this proves nothing.

Bill

Quoted message said:

See

lipitor.comlipitorDesktoOpen ↗
p?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=prescribingInformation

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This is the Pfizer website, with the FDA-approved label
information.

Note

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that under the

"Clinical Adverse Experiences" section it states: "The
following adverse events were reported, regardless of
causality assessment in patients treated with
atorvastatin in clinical trials. The events in italics
occurred in 2% of patients and the events in plain

type

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occurred in <2% of patients"

Under "Nervous System" in ITALICS (indicating 2% of
patients) it is

listed:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

INSOMNIA

Full list of neurological problems known to be
associated with Lipitor

use

Quoted message said:

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in this section (Asthenia (i.e., Weakness; lack of
energy and strength)

is

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listed in the table prior to this section):

"Nervous System: Insomnia, dizziness, paresthesia,
somnolence, amnesia, abnormal dreams, libido decreased,
emotional lability, incoordination, peripheral
neuropathy, torticollis, facial paralysis, hyperkinesia,
depression, hypesthesia, hypertonia"

"Tom R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0zIxc.52550$_k3.1315577@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

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I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over
3 weeks ago.

Since

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

starting I have had moderate to severe insomnia
usually getting only

2 - 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hours of sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a
period of time

(weeks,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it
a side effect

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

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statins in general? Is there another statin that may
have less an

effect

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on

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sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced
with this side

effect.

Quoted message said:

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Tom R.

Per this study, the neuropsychiatric side effects of statins
were INSOMNIA at 11% (11% > 2%)

ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgiOpen ↗
db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=8146847

Therapie. 1993 Sep-Oct;48(5):509-12. A one-year prospective
and intensive pharmacovigilance of antilipemic drugs in an
hospital consultation for prevention of risk factors]

[Article in French]

Jacquet A, Colomes M, Ferrieres J, Denat M, Douste-Blazy P,
Monstastruc JL.

Service de Pharmacologie Medicale et Clinique, Centre
Hospitalier Universitaire, Faculte de Medecine, Toulouse.

From the abstract:

"The most frequently observed side effects were gastralgia
(19.5%) observed with the three classes of drugs and
hepatitis with HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors (8.5%) or
fibrates (3%) whereas myopathy (12%) only occurred with
statines. The other side effects were cutaneous (14%:
eczema, skin rashes) or neuropsychiatric (11%:
insomnia...) ones."

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"Sharon Hope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:r6ayc.25660$HG.7786@attbi_s53...

Quoted message said:

Absolutely Lipitor causes severe insomnia in patients -
Pfizer says so

in

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writing, and it definitely did in my husband.

Pfizer states that INSOMNIA is one of the known adverse
effects.

Sharon that's an outright lie. They say that insomnia was
noted in greater than 2% of the population studied. They
say nothing about about it being a known adverse effect.
They say nothing about Lipitor causing "severe insomnia"
Only that it occurred in greater than 2% of the study

population.

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My guess is that insomnia occurs in greater than 2% of
the general

population.

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So this proves nothing.

Bill

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See

lipitor.comlipitorDesktoOpen ↗
p?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=prescribingInformation

Quoted message said:

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This is the Pfizer website, with the FDA-approved label
information.

Note

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that under the

"Clinical Adverse Experiences" section it states: "The
following adverse events were reported, regardless of
causality assessment in patients treated with
atorvastatin in clinical trials. The events in italics
occurred in 2% of patients and the events in plain

type

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

occurred in <2% of patients"

Under "Nervous System" in ITALICS (indicating 2% of
patients) it is

listed:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

INSOMNIA

Full list of neurological problems known to be
associated with Lipitor

use

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in this section (Asthenia (i.e., Weakness; lack of
energy and strength)

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

listed in the table prior to this section):

"Nervous System: Insomnia, dizziness, paresthesia,
somnolence, amnesia, abnormal dreams, libido decreased,
emotional lability, incoordination, peripheral
neuropathy, torticollis, facial paralysis, hyperkinesia,
depression, hypesthesia, hypertonia"

"Tom R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0zIxc.52550$_k3.1315577@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Quoted message said:

I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over
3 weeks ago.

Since

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

starting I have had moderate to severe insomnia
usually getting only

2 - 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hours of sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a
period of time

(weeks,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it
a side effect

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

statins in general? Is there another statin that may
have less an

effect

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on

Quoted message said:

sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced
with this side

effect.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Tom R.

INSOMNIA and/or Sleep Disorders:

Pravastatin = 8.7% (8.7% > 2%) Lovastatin = 4.8% (4.8% > 2%)
Simvastatin = 3.6% (3.6% > 2%)

AFTER ONLY 6 WEEKS!

ncbi.nlm.nih.govquery.fcgiOpen ↗
db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=1904357 Eur J Clin
Pharmacol. 1991;40 Suppl 1:S27-32. Comparison of different
HMG-CoA reductase inhibitors.

Ditschuneit HH, Kuhn K, Ditschuneit H.

Department of Medicine, University of Ulm, Federal Republic
of Germany.

"Three agents, pravastatin (P), lovastatin (L) and
simvastatin (S), have been studied with reference to long-
term lipid-lowering effect, tolerance and clinical
safety....In the S group headache (3.6% of patients),
abdominal discomfort (2.4%), sleeping disturbances (3.6%),
and muscle pain (2.4%) were reported. In the L group
headache (7.1%), abdominal discomfort (4.8%), sleep
disorders (4.8%), and muscle pain (4.8%) were observed. In
the P group one patient complained of abdominal discomfort
(8.7%) and one of sleep disorders
(8.7%). Increases in CPK were observed in the S group (4.8%
of patients) and in the L group (11.9%) "

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Quoted message said:

... "Sharon Hope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:r6ayc.25660$HG.7786@attbi_s53...

Quoted message said:

Absolutely Lipitor causes severe insomnia in patients -
Pfizer says so

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

writing, and it definitely did in my husband.

Pfizer states that INSOMNIA is one of the known adverse
effects.

Sharon that's an outright lie. They say that insomnia was
noted in greater than 2% of the population studied. They
say nothing about about it being a known adverse effect.
They say nothing about Lipitor causing "severe insomnia"
Only that it occurred in greater than 2% of the study

population.

Quoted message said:

My guess is that insomnia occurs in greater than 2% of
the general

population.

Quoted message said:

So this proves nothing.

Bill

Quoted message said:

See

lipitor.comlipitorDesktoOpen ↗
p?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=prescribingInformation

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This is the Pfizer website, with the FDA-approved label
information.

Note

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that under the

"Clinical Adverse Experiences" section it states: "The
following adverse events were reported, regardless of
causality assessment in patients treated with
atorvastatin in clinical trials. The events in italics
occurred in 2% of patients and the events in plain

type

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

occurred in <2% of patients"

Under "Nervous System" in ITALICS (indicating 2% of
patients) it is

listed:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

INSOMNIA

Full list of neurological problems known to be
associated with Lipitor

use

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in this section (Asthenia (i.e., Weakness; lack of
energy and strength)

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

listed in the table prior to this section):

"Nervous System: Insomnia, dizziness, paresthesia,
somnolence, amnesia, abnormal dreams, libido decreased,
emotional lability, incoordination, peripheral
neuropathy, torticollis, facial paralysis, hyperkinesia,
depression, hypesthesia, hypertonia"

"Tom R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0zIxc.52550$_k3.1315577@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Quoted message said:

I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over
3 weeks ago.

Since

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

starting I have had moderate to severe insomnia
usually getting only

2 - 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hours of sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a
period of time

(weeks,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it
a side effect

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

statins in general? Is there another statin that may
have less an

effect

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on

Quoted message said:

sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced
with this side

effect.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Tom R.

See also:

Sleep disturbance and HMG CoA reductase inhibitors.

Black DM, Lamkin G, Olivera EH, Laskarzewski PM, Stein EA.

"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"Sharon Hope" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:r6ayc.25660$HG.7786@attbi_s53...

Quoted message said:

Absolutely Lipitor causes severe insomnia in patients -
Pfizer says so

in

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

writing, and it definitely did in my husband.

Pfizer states that INSOMNIA is one of the known adverse
effects.

Sharon that's an outright lie. They say that insomnia was
noted in greater than 2% of the population studied. They
say nothing about about it being a known adverse effect.
They say nothing about Lipitor causing "severe insomnia"
Only that it occurred in greater than 2% of the study

population.

Quoted message said:

My guess is that insomnia occurs in greater than 2% of
the general

population.

Quoted message said:

So this proves nothing.

Bill

Quoted message said:

See

lipitor.comlipitorDesktoOpen ↗
p?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=prescribingInformation

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This is the Pfizer website, with the FDA-approved label
information.

Note

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that under the

"Clinical Adverse Experiences" section it states: "The
following adverse events were reported, regardless of
causality assessment in patients treated with
atorvastatin in clinical trials. The events in italics
occurred in 2% of patients and the events in plain

type

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

occurred in <2% of patients"

Under "Nervous System" in ITALICS (indicating 2% of
patients) it is

listed:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

INSOMNIA

Full list of neurological problems known to be
associated with Lipitor

use

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

in this section (Asthenia (i.e., Weakness; lack of
energy and strength)

is

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

listed in the table prior to this section):

"Nervous System: Insomnia, dizziness, paresthesia,
somnolence, amnesia, abnormal dreams, libido decreased,
emotional lability, incoordination, peripheral
neuropathy, torticollis, facial paralysis, hyperkinesia,
depression, hypesthesia, hypertonia"

"Tom R" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0zIxc.52550$_k3.1315577@bgtnsc05-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

Quoted message said:

I started taking 10 mg of Lipitor in the mornings over
3 weeks ago.

Since

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

starting I have had moderate to severe insomnia
usually getting only

2 - 3

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

hours of sleep. Does the insomnia subside after a
period of time

(weeks,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

months)? Is insomnia a side effect of Lipitor or is it
a side effect

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

statins in general? Is there another statin that may
have less an

effect

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

on

Quoted message said:

sleep?

I would appreciate comments from anyone experienced
with this side

effect.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Tom R.