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  1. OK - sorry of this post is long, but the details are
    relevant.

    I have been recommended to take low dose aspirin by my GP. I
    am 43, normal blood pressure, not overweight, fairly fit,
    never smoked. Recent cholesterol reading 5.5.

    I had some chest pains that were stress related. Once the
    stress issues were resolved, the pains dissapeared and no
    re-occurrence for 2 months. As part of checking me over
    generally, my GP sent me for a treadmill ECG as purely
    precautionary. This showed some very minor irregularity
    during the last 30 seconds of the test. The cardiologist
    then prescribed me tildiem 90, low dose aspirin, sivastatin,
    an angina spray and gave me the card of a local undertaker
    to carry at all times. I also had a referral for an
    angiogram that will be in August. The reason for the
    referral was mainly on the basis that my father has angina.

    The question the cardiologist didn't ask was "Did he smoke"?
    My GP eventually asked this, and the answer is that he was a
    heavy smoker for most of his adult life. My GP felt that
    this was probably why he has angina, and there may not
    necessarily be an inherited factor.

    I don't see myself as an angina sufferer basically. I do a
    13 mile bike ride over varying terrain 2-3 times a week, I
    eat fairly heathily and drink with moderation.

    The doctor has taken me of sivastatin on the grounds that my
    cholesterol is "borderline high", and he agrees with me that
    I should be allowed a few months to lower my diet by
    healthier eating and regular exercise. He would have taken
    me off the tildiem 90 too if it wasn't for the fact that I
    have the angiogram coming up.

    My question here is am I likely to benefit from low dose
    aspirin? Is the balance between the gain of possible CHD
    higher than bleeding in my case?

    I did read on one website that low dose aspirin is not a
    benefit unless you are bad enough to have a risk factor on
    the "Sheffield tables". Reading the "Sheffield tables" I'm
    not sure if I actually "have" a risk factor - especially as
    I haven't been diagnosed with anything as yet.

    Does anyone have any input here?

    Thanks

    David

  2. Forgot to mention that "Tildiem 90mg" is the brand name used
    in the UK, but Dilitiazem is the name of the drug.

    Thanks

  3. "David" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    OK - sorry of this post is long, but the details are
    relevant.

    I have been recommended to take low dose aspirin by my GP.
    I am 43, normal blood pressure, not overweight, fairly
    fit, never smoked. Recent cholesterol reading 5.5.

    I had some chest pains that were stress related. Once the
    stress issues were resolved, the pains dissapeared and no
    re-occurrence for 2 months. As part of checking me over
    generally, my GP sent me for a treadmill ECG as purely
    precautionary. This showed some very minor irregularity
    during the last 30 seconds of the test. The cardiologist
    then prescribed me tildiem 90, low dose aspirin,
    sivastatin, an angina spray and gave me the card of a
    local undertaker to carry at all times. I also had a
    referral for an angiogram that will be in August. The
    reason for the referral was mainly on the basis that my
    father has angina.

    The question the cardiologist didn't ask was "Did he
    smoke"? My GP eventually asked this, and the answer is
    that he was a heavy smoker for most of his adult life. My
    GP felt that this was probably why he has angina, and
    there may not necessarily be an inherited factor.

    I don't see myself as an angina sufferer basically. I do a
    13 mile bike ride over varying terrain 2-3 times a week, I
    eat fairly heathily and drink with moderation.

    The doctor has taken me of sivastatin on the grounds that
    my cholesterol is "borderline high", and he agrees with me
    that I should be allowed a few months to lower my diet by
    healthier eating and regular exercise. He would have taken
    me off the tildiem 90 too if it wasn't for the fact that I
    have the angiogram coming up.

    My question here is am I likely to benefit from low dose
    aspirin? Is the balance between the gain of possible CHD
    higher than bleeding in my case?

    I did read on one website that low dose aspirin is not a
    benefit unless you

    Quoted message said:

    are bad enough to have a risk factor on the "Sheffield
    tables". Reading the "Sheffield tables" I'm not sure if I
    actually "have" a risk factor - especially as I haven't
    been diagnosed with anything as yet.

    Does anyone have any input here?

    Thanks

    David

    It is my understanding that usually you look for increased
    risk of heart problems before starting aspirin. On the other
    hand a heart attack can be worse than a gastric ulcer and I
    don't know what that "minor irregularity" you speak of was,
    but it may have been part of the reason to take a closer
    look at things with an angiogram.

    Aspirin can really help and my suggestion is to go along
    with what your Drs. say until you get a better picture.

    Bill - not a Dr.

  4. Quoted message said:

    It is my understanding that usually you look for increased
    risk of heart problems before starting aspirin. On the
    other hand a heart attack can be worse than a gastric
    ulcer and I don't know what that "minor irregularity"


    you

    Quoted message said:

    speak of was, but it may have been part of the reason to
    take a closer


    look at

    Quoted message said:

    things with an angiogram.

    Aspirin can really help and my suggestion is to go along
    with what your


    Drs.

    Quoted message said:

    say until you get a better picture.

    That's what I intend to do. I have a follow-up appointment
    with the cardiologist booked for a few weeks after the
    angiogram, and I'm intending discussing this at that point.

    I can't be more precise on the minor irregularity, as
    neither the cardiologist or the GP really explained it. I
    think the reason here is that they may suspect a "False
    positive" and would rather get more information themselves.
    I gather that the readings refer to the lower left
    ventricle, but I may have misheard this. However, I have
    been told that whatever the irregularity is, it only showed
    up in the last few seconds of the test.

    The difficulty I have is that so far medications seem to
    have been based on knee jerk reactions, and the need to be
    cautious to avoid litigation. I'm happy to work with them,
    and make whatever lifestyle, diet and exercise changes they
    advise, and take whatever medicines they prescribe. Getting
    them to work with me, and not rely on knee jerk reactions
    is a battle!

    The statin was prescribed on the basis of one cholesterol
    test that was probably innacurate anyway. I wasn't told to
    fast, and had eaten breakfast and a packed lunch in the 12
    hours preceding the test. Hence the GP was more than happy
    to take me off of this, try controlling it with diet and
    exercise, and go for a proper test after fasting in a couple
    of months time.

    The Dilitiazem may be genuinely required, and I will discuss
    that after the angiogram. The GP would have taken me off of
    them temporarily (they make me nauseous), but said that he
    wouldn't do that until after the angiogram "just in case
    something happens". He didn't say the rest of the sentence
    "and you sue us", but there was no doubt that was implied.

    The low dose aspirin isn't based on anything historical.
    My understanding is that the reccomendation to take this
    is based on the ECG result. I don't really want to take
    it unless there genuinely *is* an increased risk of
    heart attack, and until the angiogram I guess we don't
    really know.

    Thanks for the reply.

    David

  5. David said:

    .... The cardiologist ... gave me the card of a local
    undertaker to carry at all times....

    You mention in a later post that he never explained the
    "minor irregularity" in your ECG.

    Far more important than your aspirin question, in my humble
    opinion, would be another: Have you gone for a consult by
    another cardiologist?

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