Chelation Therapy purpose...

"Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Taken from the New England Journal of Medicine...

The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy works is
unknown, but

many,

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many people have benefited from it. Likewise, Aspirin was
used for many centuries with no understanding of the
precise mechanism that made it an effective pain
reliever. It was widely used because many, many people
benefited from
it. It was not until the 1970's that the cyclocyxygenase
enzyme inhibition mechanism that made Aspirin work,
was discovered.

Baaaaad analogy. Medicien and science during all those
years aspirin was used was not up to the same level as
we have now.

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A fully funded 5 year study

Which is a good thing.

Dave Wickware said:

Likewise, Aspirin was used for many centuries with no
understanding of the precise mechanism that made it an
effective pain reliever.

Aspirin was patented in 1897 and first marketed in 1899.

Many centuries, indeed.

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Quoted message said:

Taken from the New England Journal of Medicine...

The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy works is
unknown, but

many,

Quoted message said:

many people have benefited from it. Likewise, Aspirin was
used for many centuries with no understanding of the
precise mechanism that made it an effective

[censored]. Liar. Idiot. The NEJM never published anything
resembling this. Asprin, (read: Asprin) hasn't existed for
centuries. Chelation therapy isn't known to work even as an
abstract concept. (In the alternative medicine world.) Your
conclusion that many people have benefited from it is
substantiated only by your own opinion. To the point,
though, what, exactly, is the parallel between Aspirin and
chelation therapy? Cite studies or go away.

moo

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Quoted message said:

"Dave Wickware" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Taken from the New England Journal of Medicine...

The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy works
is unknown, but

many,

Quoted message said:

many people have benefited from it. Likewise, Aspirin
was used for many centuries with no understanding of

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

precise mechanism that made it an effective pain
reliever. It was widely used because many, many people
benefited

from

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

it. It was not until the 1970's that the cyclocyxygenase
enzyme inhibition mechanism that made Aspirin work,
was discovered.

Baaaaad analogy. Medicien and science during all those
years aspirin was used was not up to the same level as we
have now.

Quoted message said:

A fully funded 5 year study

Which is a good thing.

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Quoted message said:

"Dave Wickware" <dwickware@

Quoted message said:

Taken from the New England Journal of Medicine...

The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy works
is unknown, but

many,

Quoted message said:

many people have benefited from it. Likewise, Aspirin
was used for many centuries with no understanding of

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

precise mechanism that made it an effective

[censored]. Liar. Idiot. The NEJM never published anything
resembling

this.

Quoted message said:

Asprin, (read: Asprin) hasn't existed for centuries.
Chelation therapy isn't known to work even as an abstract
concept. (In the alternative medicine world.) Your
conclusion that many people have benefited from it

is

Quoted message said:

substantiated only by your own opinion. To the point,
though, what, exactly, is the parallel between Aspirin and
chelation therapy? Cite studies or go away.

moo

Credibility is everything. You better explain to the Aspirin
Foundation that they don't exist....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,....

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Peter Bowditch said:

Dave Wickware said:

Likewise, Aspirin was used for many centuries with no
understanding of the precise mechanism that made it an
effective pain reliever.

Aspirin was patented in 1897 and first marketed in 1899.

Many centuries, indeed.

Indeed. Salicylic acid was used for maybe a few decades
before aspirin was developed, and led to the development
of aspirin.

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"Dave Wickware" <dwickware@

Quoted message said:

Taken from the New England Journal of Medicine...

The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy works
is unknown, but

many,

Quoted message said:

many people have benefited from it. Likewise, Aspirin
was used for many centuries with no understanding of

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

precise mechanism that made it an effective

[censored]. Liar. Idiot. The NEJM never published anything
resembling

this.

Quoted message said:

Asprin, (read: Asprin) hasn't existed for centuries.
Chelation therapy isn't known to work even as an
abstract concept. (In the alternative medicine world.)
Your conclusion that many people have benefited from

it

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

substantiated only by your own opinion. To the point,
though, what, exactly, is the parallel between Aspirin
and chelation therapy? Cite studies or go away.

moo

Credibility is everything. You better explain to the
Aspirin Foundation

that

Quoted message said:

they don't exist....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,....

aspirin.orgaspirin.orgOpen ↗

Try using logic in your responses. But, do note that the
link you provided shows that aspirin has been around for
slightly over a century, not the eons you claim it was.

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"Dave Wickware" <dwickware@
> Taken from the New England Journal of Medicine...
>
> The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy
> works is unknown,

but

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

many,
> many people have benefited from it. Likewise,
> Aspirin was used for many centuries with no
> understanding

of

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Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

> precise mechanism that made it an effective

[censored]. Liar. Idiot. The NEJM never published
anything resembling

this.

Quoted message said:

Asprin, (read: Asprin) hasn't existed for centuries.
Chelation

therapy

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

isn't known to work even as an abstract concept. (In
the alternative medicine world.) Your conclusion that
many people have benefited from

it

Quoted message said:

is

Quoted message said:

substantiated only by your own opinion. To the point,
though, what, exactly, is the parallel between Aspirin
and chelation therapy? Cite studies or go away.

moo

Credibility is everything. You better explain to the
Aspirin Foundation

that

Quoted message said:

they don't exist....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,....

aspirin.orgaspirin.orgOpen ↗

Try using logic in your responses. But, do note that the
link you provided shows that aspirin has been around for
slightly over a century, not the

eons

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you claim it was.

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. eons and eons and eons, eh!

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"Happy Dog" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Dave Wickware" <dwickware@
> > Taken from the New England Journal of Medicine...
> >
> > The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy
> > works is unknown,

but

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> many,
> > many people have benefited from it. Likewise,
> > Aspirin was used for many centuries with no

understanding

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of

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the
> > precise mechanism that made it an effective
>
> [censored]. Liar. Idiot. The NEJM never published
> anything

resembling

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this.
> Asprin, (read: Asprin) hasn't existed for centuries.
> Chelation

therapy

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> isn't known to work even as an abstract concept. (In
> the

alternative

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> medicine world.) Your conclusion that many people
> have benefited

from

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Quoted message said:

it

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is
> substantiated only by your own opinion. To the
> point, though, what, exactly, is the parallel
> between Aspirin and chelation therapy?

Cite

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> studies or go away.
>
> moo

Credibility is everything. You better explain to the
Aspirin

Foundation

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Quoted message said:

that

Quoted message said:

they don't exist....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,....

aspirin.orgaspirin.orgOpen ↗

Try using logic in your responses. But, do note that the
link you

provided

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

shows that aspirin has been around for slightly over a
century, not the

eons

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you claim it was.

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. eons and eons and eons, eh!

Obviously, you missed my point and my hyperbole.

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Dave Wickware said:

"M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 11, 2004" <M.a.r.k
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"Happy Dog" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> "Dave Wickware" <dwickware@
> > Taken from the New England Journal of Medicine...
> >
> > The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy
> > works is unknown,

but

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> many,
> > many people have benefited from it. Likewise,
> > Aspirin was used for many centuries with no
> > understanding

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the
> > precise mechanism that made it an effective
>
> [censored]. Liar. Idiot. The NEJM never published
> anything resembling
this.
> Asprin, (read: Asprin) hasn't existed for centuries.
> Chelation

therapy

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> isn't known to work even as an abstract concept. (In
> the alternative medicine world.) Your conclusion
> that many people have benefited from

it

Quoted message said:

is
> substantiated only by your own opinion. To the
> point, though, what, exactly, is the parallel
> between Aspirin and chelation therapy? Cite studies
> or go away.
>
> moo

Credibility is everything. You better explain to the
Aspirin Foundation

that

Quoted message said:

they don't exist....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,....

aspirin.orgaspirin.orgOpen ↗

Try using logic in your responses. But, do note that the
link you provided shows that aspirin has been around for
slightly over a century, not the

eons

Quoted message said:

you claim it was.

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha. eons and eons and eons, eh!

I think the pesticides in all that ginseng extract Dave's
been hawking are starting to affect his brain even more than
they had before.

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Subject: Re: Chelation Therapy purpose...
From: "M.a.r.k P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 10, 2004" M.a.r.kP.r.o.b.e.r.t
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Date: 6/10/2004 2:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy works is
unknown, but many,

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many people have benefited from it

certainly...chelation works great for heavy metals...

hawki.....

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Subject: Re: Chelation Therapy purpose... From: "M.a.r.k
P.r.o.b.e.r.t-June 10, 2004" M.a.r.kP.r.o.b.e.r.t 06-10-
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Quoted message said:

The mechanism of precisely how chelation therapy works
is unknown, but many,

Quoted message said:

many people have benefited from it

certainly...chelation works great for heavy metals...

Indeed it does. Too bad it doesn't appear to work so well
for atherosclerotic peripheral or coronary artery disease.

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Hmmm. This doctor uses a combination of chelation and
tetracycline, on the theory that the chelation breaks up
calcium phosphate deposits, and the tetracycline then can
reach the nanobacteria inside. It is interesting, to say the
least............if it works it could work for other calcium
deposits, I suppose, in such things as arthritis, etc.

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