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10-speed compatibility -- again.

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  1. I have two bikes w. Campy shifters. I use Shimano-
    compatible rear wheels almost all the time. I am
    considering upgrading to compact cranks, but only if I can
    use 10-speed cassettes. Can I put 10-speed Shimano
    cassettes on my Shimano-compatible rear wheels and shift
    them well using my Campy shifters?

    What I have: 1999 Athena 9-speed shifters (late '99, fully
    compatible with everything since). Will need to be upgraded.
    2004 Centaur 10-speed shifters

    FWIW, I am happy to report that running 9-speed Shimano
    cassettes with the above always worked well. (Of course,
    running Campy worked too.)

    Thanks.

    Kirby.

  2. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Kirby Krieger
    I have two bikes w. Campy shifters. I use Shimano-
    compatible rear wheels almost all the time. I am
    considering upgrading to compact cranks, but only if I can
    use 10-speed cassettes. Can I put 10-speed Shimano
    cassettes on my Shimano-compatible rear wheels and shift
    them well using my Campy shifters?

    What I have: 1999 Athena 9-speed shifters (late '99, fully
    compatible with everything since). Will need to be upgraded.
    2004 Centaur 10-speed shifters

    FWIW, I am happy to report that running 9-speed Shimano
    cassettes with the above always worked well. (Of course,
    running Campy worked too.)

    Thanks.

    Kirby.

    Campagnolo 9-speed center-to-center 4.55 mm, cog thickness 1.75 mm, and spacer thickness 2.8 mm
    Shimano 9-speed center to center 4.34 mm, cog thickness 1.78 mm, and spacer thickness 2.56 mm

    Campagnolo 10-speed 4.12 mm, 1.75 mm, 2.42 mm
    Shimano 10-speed 3.95 mm, 1.6 mm, 2.35 mm

    I think that the same "sloppiness" tolerance will be there with the requirement for reduction of ~0.2 mm rear derailer movement for each increment on Dura Ace 10 cassette. I always wondered how it worked with the indexing differences, stop positions, and cumulative errors. I am to Anal Retentive to try it at this time, but I certainly have seen the 9 speed swap working on many bicycles.
    I would start the experiment with a DURA ACE 10 speed chain, just because it is slightly narrower on the outside.... however lateral chain width and lateral chain flexibility are both considerations.

  3. Use American Classic conversion cassettes, which have
    Campagnolo 10s spacing and fit Shimano hubs. I have one of
    them on a Dura-Ace hub and the shifting is
    indistinguishable from a Chorus cassette on a Chorus hub
    when used on the same bike.

    Plus the Am Classic cassette is cheaper than the Dura-Ace 10
    cassette...

    Nick

    "Kirby Krieger" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:

    I have two bikes w. Campy shifters. I use Shimano-
    compatible rear wheels


    almost all the time. I

    Quoted message said:

    am considering upgrading to compact cranks, but only if I
    can use 10-speed


    cassettes. Can I put

    Quoted message said:

    10-speed Shimano cassettes on my Shimano-compatible rear
    wheels and shift


    them well using my Campy

    Quoted message said:

    shifters?

  4. Kirby-<< Can I put 10-speed Shimano cassettes on my Shimano-
    compatible rear wheels and shift them well using my Campy
    shifters? >><BR><BR>

    Yep, use a shimano 10s chain for best results. It will
    work fine.

    BTW-you can upgrade those 1999 Athena levers to 10s with a
    shift disc and front bushing.

    EC-RE-061 and EC-RE-062

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali
    costruite eccezionalmente bene"

  5. I've gone and done it again.

    On the advice of Pete Chisholm I bought campag 10s centaur
    levers and long cage rear mech to replace the shimano tiagra
    9s levers and long r/d. The hub was ultegra with ultegra 12-27 cassette.

    It works fine.

    I have previously had success with running campag record 8s
    levers with shimano 600 7s hub and cassette.

    Michael Anderson
    Cheltenham.

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    Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Qui Si Parla Ca
    Kirby-<< Can I put 10-speed Shimano cassettes on my Shimano-
    compatible rear wheels and shift them well using my Campy
    shifters? >><BR><BR>

    Yep, use a shimano 10s chain for best results. It will
    work fine.

    BTW-you can upgrade those 1999 Athena levers to 10s with a
    shift disc and front bushing.

    EC-RE-061 and EC-RE-062

    Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St.
    Boulder, CO, 80302
    (303)440-3535 vecchios.comvecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali
    costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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