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  1. Dunno if anyone remembers but last year I took a ~200 km
    loop to the town of Bolton, Ont and related the experience
    here. Nothing special about the town or the trip except that
    I spent a few teen years there 20 plus years ago. Returning
    after 2 decades was definitely a zen thing - symbolically
    travelling back in time.

    This summer I am pondering a much larger foray, spiritually
    speaking. I am considering to take the train to Halifax NS,
    travelling the South Shore to the town of my birth [well
    not technically born there - that took place two towns over
    in the nearest hospital] I figure that the trip will be
    nothing huge, ~600 km or so. But as a journey of something
    like 25 years in time - a symbolic circumnavigation to the
    beginning.

    When you think of the path your life takes to get you where
    you are now... then look back to your beginning. Where your
    childhood was played out, where what is _you_ was
    formed.... where your parents rest.

    Ya, anyone can take trains plane or autos to visit your
    past but making the journey [at least the last part] simply
    by virtue of your own power, legs powering the bike, your
    body the only machine, make the journey a psychological
    pilgrimage.

    To see what has changed, what hasn't, who left my small
    town, who stayed. remember playing in that tree, in that
    brook, the place you first kissed a girl.... the stretch of
    street where you first solo-ed without training wheels....
    the place where you learned to swim...

    Or maybe I'm just being overly melodramatic.

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    --
    'the place I come from is with me all the time' -
    meredith brooks

  2. Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:46:26 GMT,
    <[email hidden]>,

    loki said:

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for... the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    No. You'll get there anyway in your own time. It's not a
    goal, it's a process. Just ride and there you are.
    --
    zk

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    loki said:

    Or maybe I'm just being overly melodramatic.

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for...
    the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    You might be interested in reading 'Coming Together - A
    10,000 Mile Bicycle Journey', by Brock Tully.

    cheers, Tom

    --
    -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  4. Zoot Katz wrote: (clip) It's not a goal, it's a process.
    Just ride and there you are. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thank you. That
    line is going to increase my enjoyment of riding greatly, by
    changing my attitude ever so slightly.

  5. Quoted message said:

    You might be interested in reading 'Coming Together - A
    10,000 Mile Bicycle Journey', by Brock Tully.

    Or you might try reading "Trying to Go Home Again" in the
    book TALES FROM THE
    ID...by yours truly.

    James S. Prine hometown.aol.comjsprine

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (James S. Prine) said:
    Quoted message said:

    You might be interested in reading 'Coming Together - A
    10,000 Mile Bicycle Journey', by Brock Tully.

    Or you might try reading "Trying to Go Home Again" in the
    book TALES FROM THE
    ID...by yours truly.

    James S. Prine hometown.aol.comjsprine

    I'll look for it. Thanks. Already the title has suddenly
    reminded of a long-forgotten (by me) Stevie Winwood song :-)

    cheers, Tom

    --
    -- Powered by FreeBSD Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  7. Quoted message said:

    I am considering to take the train to Halifax NS

    I have taken the train [VIA] to Halifax from Vancouver, in
    1992. It was a good ride, and an excellent way to see the
    country. I've also taken a couple of extended bike tours out
    of Halifax [round-trips to Prince Edward Island, and to New
    Brunswick]. Good touring there.

  8. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Zoot Katz

    No. You'll get there anyway in your own time. It's not a
    goal, it's a process. Just ride and there you are.
    --
    zk

    Nice expression

  9. "loki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Returning after 2 decades was definitely a zen thing -
    symbolically travelling back in time.

    I'm not so sure it was a "zen" thing. Typically in Zen one
    finds enlightenment while engaged in the ordinary: slicing
    carrots, taking a bath, sweeping the floor. This trip sounds
    like it was outside of your ordinary routine. Perhaps what
    made it Zen was the realization of impermanence. When you
    return to a place you haven't been to in twenty years, it
    changes; or if it hasn't visibly changed, you realize that
    it is you who has changed.

    Quoted message said:

    Or maybe I'm just being overly melodramatic.

    No, I don't think so. By going back to places, you can
    reconcile them, put them in their proper perspective, see
    them through your adult, and not your kid eyes.

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for...
    the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    Sometimes cycling just provides a space. Yesterday I spent
    most of the day on a business trip, rising at 5:00 AM, going
    to the airport, flying to a city just too far to drive to,
    having meetings, and then flying back. At
    5:30 PM I was supposed to be at a workshop to discuss
    pedestrian and bicycle facilities for a stretch of
    roadway near my home that I knew would be very
    contentious. I had just enough time to pull in to the
    driveway, strip off my suit and silk blouse, put on a t
    and bike shorts, and hit the road to get to the meeting.
    I could have driven straight there, but riding the bike
    gave me an interval of separation between being on that
    trip, and being in that workshop. When the workshop was
    over, the ride home made another interval, this one
    between the workshop and being at home.

    I couldn't drop all the monkey chatter in the brain that the
    workshop produced -- I was still chewing on all the things I
    should have said, my desire to slap various people in the
    face, and so on. But it was still better processed than if I
    had just driven home.

    Perhaps by cycling to the places of your past, you are also
    creating the interior space to process your memories of
    these place, and the feelings both the memories and the
    sight of these places today generate.

    --
    Warm Regards,

    Claire Petersky Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato
    and .net for .com Home of the meditative cyclist:
    home.earthlink.netWelcome.htm See the
    books I've set free at:
    bookcrossing.comCpetersky

  10. "Zoot Katz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Mon, 07 Jun 2004 04:46:26 GMT, <CqSwc.92657$Ar.6062@twist-
    er01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, "loki"

    Quoted message said:

    Anyone else consider cycling as the search for...
    the zen?

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    No. You'll get there anyway in your own time. It's not a
    goal, it's a process.

    Can it not be both?

  11. "LioNiNoiL_a t_Ne t s c a pE_D 0 T_Ne T" <[email hidden]> wrote
    in message news:93txc.2271$K45.1990@fed1read02...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I am considering to take the train to Halifax NS

    I have taken the train [VIA] to Halifax from Vancouver, in
    1992. It was a good ride, and an excellent way to see the
    country. I've also taken a couple of extended bike tours
    out of Halifax [round-trips to Prince Edward Island, and
    to New Brunswick]. Good touring there.

    Ya, my provisional itinerary is to get off the train at
    Truro. That is at the tip Bay of Fundy where the highest
    recorded tides ever occurred [16.27 meters (53.38 feet)].
    Average tides are in the neighbourhood of 12 meters (~42
    feet) Think of it; a tidal ebb an flow equal to a 4 or 5
    story building.

    Any ways I figure I'll ride along the Fundy coast for 2-3
    days before turning to cross the body of Nova Scotia. From
    there I'll take in the south shore between Halifax and
    Lunenburg - the specific part of NS I'm from.

    I'm figuring 50 km a day will be a reasonable pace allowing
    for stops and side trips and soaking up local flavour. Hey,
    maybe I'll even locate my long lost East cost accent.

    --
    'I'm a man. But I can change. If I have to. -Red Green's I
    guess.' The Man's Prayer

  12. "Claire Petersky" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:MqExc.72023$Ly.37774@attbi_s01...

    Quoted message said:

    "loki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CqSwc-
    [email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Returning after 2 decades was definitely a zen thing -
    symbolically travelling back in time.

    I'm not so sure it was a "zen" thing. Typically in Zen one
    finds enlightenment while engaged in the ordinary: slicing
    carrots, taking a


    bath,

    Quoted message said:

    sweeping the floor. This trip sounds like it was outside
    of your ordinary routine. Perhaps what made it Zen was the
    realization of impermanence.


    When

    Quoted message said:

    you return to a place you haven't been to in twenty years,
    it changes; or


    if

    Quoted message said:

    it hasn't visibly changed, you realize that it is you who
    has changed.

    Or all of the above.

    Ya.

    There are two parts I guess. One is the cycling part which
    is a time for reflection regardless of the where's, when's
    or how longs. I ponder what Pinky and the Brain ponders
    whether it be a 100 km challenge or a 7 km commute/utility
    ride Though the Saturday Night Live 'Deep Thoughts'
    reflections come on stronger for long trips.

    The other part is the nostalgia thang. It seems to happen a
    lot more lately. More probably because I'm but a year and
    coupla months from being *arrrrgghhh* 40 years old. [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps by cycling to the places of your past, you are
    also creating the interior space to process your memories
    of these place, and the feelings both the memories and the
    sight of these places today generate.

    Maybe coming to terms with where one is at, where one came
    from, where one is going. Coming to terms with past
    choices. You know some form of temporary insanity known as
    midlife crisis.

    🙂

    --
    'Keep on riding north and west Then circle south and east
    Show me beauty but there is no peace.' -rush

  13. loki said:

    Perhaps what made it Zen was the realization of
    impermanence. When

    Quoted message said:

    you return to a place you haven't been to in twenty
    years, it changes; or


    if

    Quoted message said:

    it hasn't visibly changed, you realize that it is you who
    has changed.

    Or all of the above.

    Ya.

    There are two parts I guess. One is the cycling part which
    is a time for reflection regardless of the where's, when's
    or how longs. I ponder what Pinky and the Brain ponders
    whether it be a 100 km challenge or a 7 km commute/utility
    ride Though the Saturday Night Live 'Deep Thoughts'
    reflections come on stronger for long trips.

    The other part is the nostalgia thang. It seems to
    happen a lot more lately. More probably because I'm but
    a year and coupla months from being *arrrrgghhh* 40
    years old. [...]

    It's a pretty cool idea, IMO. One thing that'll stand out is
    that the place is often a lot smaller (and dirtier) than you
    remember. 'Course, I grew up in Munhall, Pa (a suburb of
    Pittsburgh - just across the river from the Steel Mill).
    Think red dust over everything each morning...heh.

    Still, it's something worth experiencing, esp. if you're
    lookin' good and some of your childhood friends are still
    living in the 'hood, haha.

    (One guy, who was the 'Brain' in grade school (I mean -
    really, really- smart), it turned out he never went to
    college, even though he was an only child and had rich
    'rents. Wow. Talk about a rush and a disappointment all at
    once. My lifestyle and accomplishments, modest that they
    are, were unbelieveable to him. Anyway, I digress...)

    Let us know how it turns out; do a blog or something!

    -Badger

  14. "loki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ... the tao?

    ... epiphany?

    ... self-discovery?

    --

    mid-life crisis?

  15. John Allen said:

    mid-life crisis?

    sssshhhhhhh...
    --
    david reuteler [email hidden]

  16. << Anyone else consider cycling as the search for...
    the zen? >

    Nice idea. However, it can prove expensive.

    You can never pedal the same bike twice. :-)

    Todd Strong

  17. "Todd Strong" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    << Anyone else consider cycling as the search for...
    the zen? >

    Nice idea. However, it can prove expensive.

    You can never pedal the same bike twice. :-)


    That's not Zen. That's having a Platonic relationship with
    your bike.

  18. "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Let us know how it turns out; do a blog or something!

    I was wondering about that - recording for posterity.
    Computers have ruined me for writing. Buying a notebook pc
    for the purpose seems bit much even if I didn't mind
    lugging it.

    Mebbe I'll have to reaquaint myself with my penmanship.

    --
    'the place I come from is with me all the time' -
    meredith brooks

  19. loki said:


    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Let us know how it turns out; do a blog or something!

    I was wondering about that - recording for posterity.
    Computers have ruined me for writing. Buying a notebook pc
    for the purpose seems bit much even if I didn't mind
    lugging it.

    Mebbe I'll have to reaquaint myself with my penmanship.

    Hmm, I-net cafes or public libraries you could use at night,
    or call it in to a friend, or record it on a pocket recorder
    and transcribe later. Lots of options, but yeah, writing at
    night by the campfire seems nice, too.

    -B

  20. loki said:

    "Badger_South" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]... [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Let us know how it turns out; do a blog or something!

    I was wondering about that - recording for posterity.
    Computers have ruined me for writing. Buying a notebook
    pc for the purpose seems bit much even if I didn't mind
    lugging it.

    I've used a PDA with an external keyboard. Smaller, lighter
    and all solid-state so it's less likely to be damaged.

    --

    -John ([email hidden])

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